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Jan 17, 2023 6:25:15 GMT -5
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Post by defmaybe00 on Jan 17, 2023 6:25:15 GMT -5
Meh. A discount Sunday Morning Call. This album not looking great, so far... Much better than SMC imo
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Easy Now
Jan 17, 2023 6:25:42 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2023 6:25:42 GMT -5
It's not as captivating as I would have liked, I prefer 'Pretty Boy' to this one, it's not bad the chorus already enters your head, but it's not my favorite.
I agree with those who say it has the 'Wandering Stars' vibes.
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Post by defmaybe00 on Jan 17, 2023 6:26:53 GMT -5
I quite like the melody and the arrangements, and will enjoy listening to it days to come. It's a nice song with a classic happy-sad Noel vibe. But why does it sound so bad? It's muffled, the vocals are low and the song has no punch at all anywhere โ reminds me of the debut sound, slightly worse even. Play Pretty Boy and this back to back and it's really noticeable. Agreed about the mix being all over the place, orchestra and electric guitar should be higher, the dynamic is not great once it gets to the first bridge etc. Weird cos both Pretty Boy and even the Trying To Find A Word That's Been and Gone demo sound better than this
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Post by The Escapist on Jan 17, 2023 6:34:58 GMT -5
At least Pretty Boy had a vibe to it. It was aiming somewhere hot and romantic, even if the Sat-Nav broke when chorus-time came.
This, to me, is what would happen if you sucked all the inspiration out of Noel and told him to knock out a tune. I'll have to bring out the sting that shocked Chris Martin into making Viva La Vida: "The sonic equivalent of wilted lettuce."
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Jan 17, 2023 6:36:45 GMT -5
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Post by The Escapist on Jan 17, 2023 6:36:45 GMT -5
(I do like the verses, though).
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Post by catsnake on Jan 17, 2023 6:36:46 GMT -5
I think itโs a classic Noel Gallagher track and far better than Pretty Boy which is probably one of the worst things Iโve heard from him.
Melancholy with an uplifting chorus - I like it ๐๐ป
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Post by yeayeayeah on Jan 17, 2023 6:39:29 GMT -5
GREAT verses but the chorus is lacking the same as PB. Too compressed and I don't like the backing singing in the outro. Feels like he was trying to get a slight Pink Floyd vibe with some of it.
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Post by Thomas on Jan 17, 2023 6:41:08 GMT -5
I quite like the melody and the arrangements, and will enjoy listening to it days to come. It's a nice song with a classic happy-sad Noel vibe. But why does it sound so bad? It's muffled, the vocals are low and the song has no punch at all anywhere โ reminds me of the debut sound, slightly worse even. Play Pretty Boy and this back to back and it's really noticeable. Sometimes I wonder if mix engineers are putting less effort into the mixes now because the majority of people just listen to music on their shitty phone speakers anyway I do actually work in audio engineering, and Iโve known plenty of people who mix and Master music who sometimes say they donโt know why they bother putting so much time in creating good mixes and masters if the majority of people listen on shitty headphones and phone speakers and stuff these days. Thatโs probably not the reason if this mix doesnโt sound great because I think most people still take pride in their work, but that kind of attitude towards it could eventually create complacency in peoples work. Not to deviate too much from the thread, but I too work with audio engineering and think that definitely happens. Speakers and earbuds nowadays are constantly, real-time adjusting a song EQ for it to sound "better" and cohesive with whatever's on your playlist. I can see the thoughts of "why bother putting such effort into this, if not for my own peers to acknowledge?". In my experience mixing is a beautiful balance of technicality and artistry, and it reflects on an artist's view of the project and the actual recording sessions, the takes, the vibe in the studio etc. If it's the same people working together over and over again it'll just gonna keep happening, and there comes the complacency you well mentioned โ which is why I feel Noel working with Holmes was an important, fresh touch, cause despite WBTM? also sounding compressed as hell, it has colours and flavours we hadn't seen Noel exploring and all that goes into the mixing stage.
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Post by andymorris on Jan 17, 2023 6:41:59 GMT -5
I quite like the melody and the arrangements, and will enjoy listening to it days to come. It's a nice song with a classic happy-sad Noel vibe. But why does it sound so bad? It's muffled, the vocals are low and the song has no punch at all anywhere โ reminds me of the debut sound, slightly worse even. Play Pretty Boy and this back to back and it's really noticeable. Sometimes I wonder if mix engineers are putting less effort into the mixes now because the majority of people just listen to music on their shitty phone speakers anyway I do actually work in audio engineering, and Iโve known plenty of people who mix and Master music who sometimes say they donโt know why they bother putting so much time in creating good mixes and masters if the majority of people listen on shitty headphones and phone speakers and stuff these days. Thatโs probably not the reason if this mix doesnโt sound great because I think most people still take pride in their work, but that kind of attitude towards it could eventually create complacency in peoples work. Well yeah this is spot on. It's been the case for every NG singles since CY. I think the debut muffled sound was not intentional. They sound pretty bad if you have better headphones or speakers. WBTM singles, especially Love is the Law, suffer from that too. Holy Mountain is a bit different, because the song had that kind of muddy production, so it's hard to say if it was intentional. My guess would not be that they dont put effort in it, it's that they mix it so it sounds best on shitty equipments, with vocals and drums upfront. Coz that's how most people will listen to it and that's matter : beat and voice, and for that song in particular, the strings. The rest is irrelevant in modern music and the way it is listened to. Same for Pretty boy, it sound better on iphone speakers than on Bower and Wilkins high end speakers. the hooks are front, the rhythm section (bass and guitar) completely disappears. Most Noel's singles (ballads especially) seemed to be mixed differently from the rest of the record.
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Post by oasispanic on Jan 17, 2023 6:43:39 GMT -5
Very good Noel classic song.
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Easy Now
Jan 17, 2023 6:46:29 GMT -5
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Post by captaincrankshaft on Jan 17, 2023 6:46:29 GMT -5
It reminds me of Wandering Star on first and second listens but isn't as melodically catchy BUT I think it's one of those songs that'll grow after more listens. For me, this kind of song suits Noels voice the best. I'm not saying they're his best songs just that they suit the timbre of his voice better.
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Post by The Escapist on Jan 17, 2023 6:50:47 GMT -5
Also, this is NOT the "classic Oasis sound that made us fall in love with them". This is a style of Noel ballad that didn't emerge until well after the glory days of Oasis were over; if Noel was truly giving us the classic Oasis sound, he would be blasting pop melodies through a thick blizzard of rich guitars and I would be a much happier man this morning.
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Post by andymorris on Jan 17, 2023 6:54:15 GMT -5
Also, this is NOT the "classic Oasis sound that made us fall in love with them". This is a style of Noel ballad that didn't emerge until well after the glory days of Oasis were over; if Noel was truly giving us the classic Oasis sound, he would be blasting pop melodies through a thick blizzard of rich guitars and I would be a much happier man this morning. Agreed. Doesn't sound like Oasis at all. The closest from the Oasis days would "Who Put the World on my Shoulder" or whatever the title was. And that wasn't Oasis. It was just Noel and Gem. Same as you, i've lost hope for this record now. I had my doubts, but given we know few tracks already (and they have the same sound as Easy Now, so they wont vastly be different), it looks bad. Hope i'm wrong though.
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Jan 17, 2023 6:56:55 GMT -5
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Post by catsnake on Jan 17, 2023 6:56:55 GMT -5
Also, this is NOT the "classic Oasis sound that made us fall in love with them". This is a style of Noel ballad that didn't emerge until well after the glory days of Oasis were over; if Noel was truly giving us the classic Oasis sound, he would be blasting pop melodies through a thick blizzard of rich guitars and I would be a much happier man this morning. I know what you mean but the guy is 55 years old and does not owe anything to anyone. With that in mind he is making music for himself which I find pretty refreshing and far more interesting than trying to force a particular sound ๐๐ป
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Post by tomlivesforever on Jan 17, 2023 6:58:20 GMT -5
Meh. A discount Sunday Morning Call. This album not looking great, so far... Steady on mate, it isn't that bad SMC, the song about hangovers that makes you feel like you've got one after you've listened to it.
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Jan 17, 2023 6:58:58 GMT -5
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Post by OasisFan199 on Jan 17, 2023 6:58:58 GMT -5
We're on Our Way has better melody. Well i'd say this one is less obvious for a NG melody, that's why i'm thinking it's better, because it's a bit atypical, especially the chorus. We're on Our Way wasn't, it checked all of NG songwriting techniques. I love all three songs. Up my alley.
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Jan 17, 2023 6:59:18 GMT -5
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Post by Thomas on Jan 17, 2023 6:59:18 GMT -5
Gotta say, after getting used to its bad sound, it's grown on me already. The melody is really good and the chorus is already stuck in my head
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Jan 17, 2023 7:00:18 GMT -5
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Post by OasisFan199 on Jan 17, 2023 7:00:18 GMT -5
Sounds like Travis. The vocals are great, especially the verses. But the the song itself is subpar compared to what he's released recently and it's hardly going to be kicking any doors in. 4,5/10 in the grande scheme of things It does sound like Travis. Their one decent album.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Jan 17, 2023 7:00:44 GMT -5
Also, this is NOT the "classic Oasis sound that made us fall in love with them". This is a style of Noel ballad that didn't emerge until well after the glory days of Oasis were over; if Noel was truly giving us the classic Oasis sound, he would be blasting pop melodies through a thick blizzard of rich guitars and I would be a much happier man this morning. I know what you mean but the guy is 55 years old and does not owe anything to anyone. With that in mind he is making music for himself which I find pretty refreshing and far more interesting than trying to force a particular sound ๐๐ป Where was the evidence he was trying to force anything? Rather than writing songs in line with what he's been listening to and influenced by at the time.
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Post by The Escapist on Jan 17, 2023 7:02:18 GMT -5
Also, this is NOT the "classic Oasis sound that made us fall in love with them". This is a style of Noel ballad that didn't emerge until well after the glory days of Oasis were over; if Noel was truly giving us the classic Oasis sound, he would be blasting pop melodies through a thick blizzard of rich guitars and I would be a much happier man this morning. I know what you mean but the guy is 55 years old and does not owe anything to anyone. With that in mind he is making music for himself which I find pretty refreshing and far more interesting than trying to force a particular sound ๐๐ป Agreed, that's why I loved Who Built the Moon.
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Post by defmaybe00 on Jan 17, 2023 7:03:11 GMT -5
Also, this is NOT the "classic Oasis sound that made us fall in love with them". This is a style of Noel ballad that didn't emerge until well after the glory days of Oasis were over; if Noel was truly giving us the classic Oasis sound, he would be blasting pop melodies through a thick blizzard of rich guitars and I would be a much happier man this morning. Agreed. Doesn't sound like Oasis at all. The closest from the Oasis days would "Who Put the World on my Shoulder" or whatever the title was. And that wasn't Oasis. It was just Noel and Gem. Same as you, i've lost hope for this record now. I had my doubts, but given we know few tracks already (and they have the same sound as Easy Now, so they wont vastly be different), it looks bad. Hope i'm wrong though. We know 3 tunes and one is fairly different to the others mate, come on
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Post by carl80 on Jan 17, 2023 7:04:36 GMT -5
The more you listen to this , itโs an absolute belter, the man is in a class of his own.
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Jan 17, 2023 7:05:23 GMT -5
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Post by catsnake on Jan 17, 2023 7:05:23 GMT -5
I know what you mean but the guy is 55 years old and does not owe anything to anyone. With that in mind he is making music for himself which I find pretty refreshing and far more interesting than trying to force a particular sound ๐๐ป Where was the evidence he was trying to force anything? Rather than writing songs in line with what he's been listening to and influenced by at the time. I was meaning trying to force a sound similar to the Oasis glory days as mentioned previously. All I meant was heโs doing his own thing and itโs great
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Post by Jessica on Jan 17, 2023 7:07:46 GMT -5
It's Noel by the numbers, but he's good at it. People just want to complain whatever he puts out. The best part for me is the structure, it all feels very cohesive without being verse > chorus > verse > chorus etc. And you know it'll sound big live. It's not the best thing he's ever written, even solo wise. But for what it is, it's good, IMO. 'All the love you've ever made' - which song (of his own) has he nicked that from? I know it's one... A Simple Game of Genius
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Post by The Escapist on Jan 17, 2023 7:07:54 GMT -5
I have no particular desire for Noel to re-create the "Classic Oasis-y" sound, but I will note that if he were to do so, it would have to be inspired by things like this:
And not things like this:
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