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Post by Lennon2217 on Sept 10, 2022 9:05:59 GMT -5
Oasis Anthology potentials……. Setting Sun Lock All The Door The Red The White The Blue All Around The World (Boardwalk) I Am The Walrus (studio) Step Out (Liam vox) For One, So Young Little By Little (Liam vox) Force of Nature (Liam vox) Revival The Roller (Heathen Chemistry demo) A Quick Peep (5 min version) Smiler Stop The Clocks (Liam) Record Machine (Liam) Come On, It’s All Right (DOYS demo) All of that before I even toss in DIV sessions or the instrumental music made for DOYS with Kasabian, plus tunes like “Slow”, “The Magic Can’t Be Right”, “Don’t Be Down”, etc. Yeah and that’s just for starters. It’s clear that Liam as he said at the time was demoing with Andy and Gem at places like Wheeler End (Soldier On?). From 2001-2009 I’d imagine there is tons of stuff. Like you say DBTT especially. Considering how many studios they used before going to LA there must be different versions of the songs let alone unreleased stuff. Yeah. Who knows what is truly out there. I tried to list only stuff we know exists. Just think we had no clue of those 2 unknown demos from the Be Here Now reissue. More unknowns probably still lurk. |
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Post by tiger40 on Sept 10, 2022 12:25:37 GMT -5
Didn't Noel say they had 60 songs for DBTT? So they could issue a 4CD boxset for that album alone if they wanted to. I'd be surprised if we don't get anything in 2025 for the anniversary considering how great that time period was for the band. I'd love it too because it was when i first became a big fan. I know that Noel said that they had a lot of songs for Don't Believe The Truth but I'm not sure how many. It would be great if we did get something for the albums 20 years but time will tell. |
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Post by freek on Sept 11, 2022 3:48:31 GMT -5
Isn't it more likely that they follow the current steps and release some 25th anniversary stuff?
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Post by tomlivesforever on Sept 11, 2022 4:43:30 GMT -5
Isn't it more likely that they follow the current steps and release some 25th anniversary stuff? Yeah quite possibly. I just want them to release something worthwhile even if it’s the 23rd anniversary |
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Post by morning_rain on Sept 11, 2022 6:18:47 GMT -5
Oasis Anthology potentials……. Setting Sun Lock All The Door The Red The White The Blue All Around The World (Boardwalk) I Am The Walrus (studio) Step Out (Liam vox) For One, So Young Little By Little (Liam vox) Force of Nature (Liam vox) Revival The Roller (Heathen Chemistry demo) A Quick Peep (5 min version) Smiler Stop The Clocks (Liam) Record Machine (Liam) Come On, It’s All Right (DOYS demo) All of that before I even toss in DIV sessions or the instrumental music made for DOYS with Kasabian, plus tunes like “Slow”, “The Magic Can’t Be Right”, “Don’t Be Down”, etc. I follow big oasis collectors on Instagram and while they usually don't share song titles the list is much much bigger. |
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Post by tiger40 on Sept 11, 2022 12:10:25 GMT -5
Isn't it more likely that they follow the current steps and release some 25th anniversary stuff? Maybe but I certainly don't want releases like they did with the first three albums. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Sept 11, 2022 18:47:11 GMT -5
Oasis Anthology potentials……. Setting Sun Lock All The Door The Red The White The Blue All Around The World (Boardwalk) I Am The Walrus (studio) Step Out (Liam vox) For One, So Young Little By Little (Liam vox) Force of Nature (Liam vox) Revival The Roller (Heathen Chemistry demo) A Quick Peep (5 min version) Smiler Stop The Clocks (Liam) Record Machine (Liam) Come On, It’s All Right (DOYS demo) All of that before I even toss in DIV sessions or the instrumental music made for DOYS with Kasabian, plus tunes like “Slow”, “The Magic Can’t Be Right”, “Don’t Be Down”, etc. I follow big oasis collectors on Instagram and while they usually don't share song titles the list is much much bigger. Oh I’m sure. This is just what I know is confirmed. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2022 5:36:46 GMT -5
Noel will never allow the release of a 'liam version' of one of the songs he sang, in case people thought it was 'better' and therefore the inclusion of his own vocal version on the albums would, in retrospect, be seen to be simply down to ego, rather than quality control with a view to making 'classic' albums.
likewise any LGA demos of songs that 'should have been contenders', because people would say 'why wasnt this on there when noel's XXX was?' plus if they're early versions of BE songs then there's probably loads of publishing issues etc.
Don't forget that the Oasis business relations set-up is one of acrimony still, and in the control of Noel/Ignition it seems. The only reason that The Beatles Anthology project finally got done in the 90s was because George Harrison was desperate for money. Noel will never be in that position.
even all these years later Harrison's estate blocks various Beatles releases.
That's all there is to it really.
I do wonder if 'collectors' have the DIV sessions as that would be my oasis holy grail.
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Post by morning_rain on Sept 12, 2022 6:48:42 GMT -5
I do wonder if 'collectors' have the DIV sessions as that would be my oasis holy grail. It's my holy grail too. As far as I know no one has ever listened to it. |
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Post by mahsteve on Sept 12, 2022 8:40:05 GMT -5
Noel will never allow the release of a 'liam version' of one of the songs he sang, in case people thought it was 'better' and therefore the inclusion of his own vocal version on the albums would, in retrospect, be seen to be simply down to ego, rather than quality control with a view to making 'classic' albums. likewise any LGA demos of songs that 'should have been contenders', because people would say 'why wasnt this on there when noel's XXX was?' plus if they're early versions of BE songs then there's probably loads of publishing issues etc. Don't forget that the Oasis business relations set-up is one of acrimony still, and in the control of Noel/Ignition it seems. The only reason that The Beatles Anthology project finally got done in the 90s was because George Harrison was desperate for money. Noel will never be in that position. even all these years later Harrison's estate blocks various Beatles releases. That's all there is to it really. I do wonder if 'collectors' have the DIV sessions as that would be my oasis holy grail. We got a Liam sung versions of LDSMD and step out. That’s the only ones I can think of but they were all unofficially released |
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Post by acquiesce19 on Sept 12, 2022 9:59:55 GMT -5
Similarly, the Noel-sung "Let's All Make Believe." There are so many hidden tunes from this era that they surely have to release at some point, right? These kinds of releases are geared toward the fans anyway and we, the fans, want them, so let's have at it!
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Post by tiger40 on Sept 12, 2022 12:22:26 GMT -5
Similarly, the Noel-sung "Let's All Make Believe." There are so many hidden tunes from this era that they surely have to release at some point, right? These kinds of releases are geared toward the fans anyway and we, the fans, want them, so let's have at it! Yeah, there's so much unreleased stuff which we all want to hear and own. And, it'll be a shame if they never get released. |
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Post by albarncoxon on Sept 23, 2022 18:47:23 GMT -5
I think DBTT could get a reissue release. Sure it’s an overrated album which suffers similar problems to HC but the vibe upon release and supportive tour was extremely positive. Plus a bonus would be including the Death In Vegas sessions, Stop The Clocks version with Liam, with Noel and with both singing at same time. Plus I got a feeling Liam did lay down vocals for Record Machine at this time. We all know the DOYS story but this was 3 years prior. Don't forget that it appears with the first three albums Oasis Management didn't have access to any multitrack studio tapes other then the finished album master tape. All the outtakes seem to have been taken from CDRs or DATs or cassettes. That Heathen Chemistry stuff you mention does sound fascinating but it may all only be the studio multitracks unless somebody ran off a copy to take home at the time. Just curious: how did they managed to release a WTSMG Surround SACD with different mixes, which even fans have used to make their own mixes? |
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Post by fabulousbakers on Sept 23, 2022 19:43:49 GMT -5
Don't forget that it appears with the first three albums Oasis Management didn't have access to any multitrack studio tapes other then the finished album master tape. All the outtakes seem to have been taken from CDRs or DATs or cassettes. That Heathen Chemistry stuff you mention does sound fascinating but it may all only be the studio multitracks unless somebody ran off a copy to take home at the time. Just curious: how did they managed to release a WTSMG Surround SACD with different mixes, which even fans have used to make their own mixes? Because they have the multitrack album master tape to work from. |
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Post by Manualex on Sept 23, 2022 21:20:10 GMT -5
Just curious: how did they managed to release a WTSMG Surround SACD with different mixes, which even fans have used to make their own mixes? Because they have the multitrack album master tape to work from. I think they MIGHT have multitracks if the SACD was just more than a cancelled announcement back in the day. (If you look for it there was a HC SACD planned but it didn't went into sale). |
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Post by PepsiNebula on Sept 23, 2022 22:40:07 GMT -5
We got a Liam sung versions of LDSMD and step out. That’s the only ones I can think of but they were all unofficially released Whoa. I had no idea a Liam demo of LDSMD existed, so thank you for mentioning it. I'm listening to it on YT now and it's a good time. |
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Post by theunderclass on Sept 23, 2022 23:11:35 GMT -5
Because they have the multitrack album master tape to work from. I think they MIGHT have multitracks if the SACD was just more than a cancelled announcement back in the day. (If you look for it there was a HC SACD planned but it didn't went into sale). I have it on my shelf, so it was definitely released. |
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Post by Manualex on Sept 23, 2022 23:39:41 GMT -5
I think they MIGHT have multitracks if the SACD was just more than a cancelled announcement back in the day. (If you look for it there was a HC SACD planned but it didn't went into sale). I have it on my shelf, so it was definitely released. are you pulling my leg? The only SACD I know it's the Morning Glory one. I know that Standing and HC were planned but I can't find anything about being released. |
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Post by theunderclass on Sept 24, 2022 6:25:59 GMT -5
I have it on my shelf, so it was definitely released. are you pulling my leg? The only SACD I know it's the Morning Glory one. I know that Standing and HC were planned but I can't find anything about being released. I'm talking about the Morning Glory one haha ... that's what the original post was referring to I think? |
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Post by albarncoxon on Sept 24, 2022 11:45:43 GMT -5
Just curious: how did they managed to release a WTSMG Surround SACD with different mixes, which even fans have used to make their own mixes? Because they have the multitrack album master tape to work from. As you mentioned that they didn't have access to them, I found it weird to be so. Noel's remix of DYKWIM proves that they do have the multitracks available at least from MG & BHN. I think it's a different story with the Definitely Maybe tapes. |
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Post by fabulousbakers on Sept 24, 2022 16:28:44 GMT -5
Because they have the multitrack album master tape to work from. As you mentioned that they didn't have access to them, I found it weird to be so. Noel's remix of DYKWIM proves that they do have the multitracks available at least from MG & BHN. I think it's a different story with the Definitely Maybe tapes. OK I'll repeat my statement again. Don't forget that it appears with the first three albums Oasis Management didn't have access to any multitrack studio tapes other than the finished album master tape. There's no way the band went in there and recorded every track in one take. Where are the false starts? The alternate unused takes? The studio chat? The abandoned arrangements? That's all stuff that should be on the original multitrack recording session tapes yet all that sort of material is suspiciously absent from these releases. The only studio outtakes that have appeared are rough or alternate mixes of the final album tracks, most probably available because the band members or their production team were running off CDRs or making cassette tapes at that stage and they've been found at home in somebody's sock drawer. The actual working session multitrack tapes are probably sitting in a storage warehouse somewhere (although it's possible they were simply junked) but if the paperwork from the era is disorganised it's going to take time to find that original paperwork, then find out what happened to the tapes, then actually physically go searching for them to find out if they are still there, then pay lawyers to work out who can have access to those tapes so the storage facility is convinced they're handing them over to the right people. All that takes time and costs money. I suspect that process was beyond the budget for these archive releases or they tried but hit a dead end at some stage. |
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Post by fluff123 on Oct 4, 2022 2:55:40 GMT -5
The post 2000 stuff gets a bad rap for me. I enjoyed (still enjoy) all of it. DBTT is my favourite album if I'm being honest. All about options though isn't it?
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Post by tiger40 on Oct 4, 2022 12:34:27 GMT -5
The post 2000 stuff gets a bad rap for me. I enjoyed (still enjoy) all of it. DBTT is my favourite album if I'm being honest. All about options though isn't it? Yeah I agree with you and I think that there's some really good songs from the 2000s era by Oasis. |
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Post by mahsteve on Oct 4, 2022 12:55:28 GMT -5
The post 2000 stuff gets a bad rap for me. I enjoyed (still enjoy) all of it. DBTT is my favourite album if I'm being honest. All about options though isn't it? Fair point. I think there are some great songs during this period. The post 2000 albums will always suffer from that “not as good as the old stuff” thing. Bands move on and move forward, pre 2000 was great, it is what it is |
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Post by Jessica on Oct 4, 2022 17:04:04 GMT -5
It'd probably be seen better if people weren't trashing most of the indie rock from that decade to begin with. I mean, it is pretty much the same people who dismiss britpop now when you think about it...
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