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Post by tomlivesforever on Jun 6, 2022 9:01:00 GMT -5
He was very good on Saturday, I don’t get what the problem is. Talking like he ballsed it up. Nope. I said he sounded better on the Friday. And said how annoying it was that he scheduled to many gigs even though by most accounts he nailed every one. So I don’t get what’s so annoying about it.
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Post by goletitout1986 on Jun 6, 2022 9:14:59 GMT -5
Nope. I said he sounded better on the Friday. And said how annoying it was that he scheduled to many gigs even though by most accounts he nailed every one. So I don’t get what’s so annoying about it. What's annoying about it is paying hard earned money for the original gig that was advertised, only for the additional date that was added to have a longer setlist, give away the 'surprise' of John Squire, and in my opinion, have a better performance from Liam.
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Post by artumlobov on Jun 6, 2022 9:23:47 GMT -5
And said how annoying it was that he scheduled to many gigs even though by most accounts he nailed every one. So I don’t get what’s so annoying about it. What's annoying about it is paying hard earned money for the original gig that was advertised, only for the additional date that was added to have a longer setlist, give away the 'surprise' of John Squire, and in my opinion, have a better performance from Liam. If you want someone who is going to give you the exact same show every time then I think I know a little fella who might just fit the bill
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Post by tomlivesforever on Jun 6, 2022 9:33:28 GMT -5
And said how annoying it was that he scheduled to many gigs even though by most accounts he nailed every one. So I don’t get what’s so annoying about it. What's annoying about it is paying hard earned money for the original gig that was advertised, only for the additional date that was added to have a longer setlist, give away the 'surprise' of John Squire, and in my opinion, have a better performance from Liam. You didn’t pay your hard earned money to see John Squire. You didn’t know until Friday he was there 😂 We paid our money to see Liam Gallagher at Knebworth with a reasonable expectation that he would smash it out of the park. I’d say we got what we paid for. I’ll take a shorter set that doesn’t include Shockwave. That makes the set as a whole much better.
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Post by goletitout1986 on Jun 6, 2022 9:42:26 GMT -5
What's annoying about it is paying hard earned money for the original gig that was advertised, only for the additional date that was added to have a longer setlist, give away the 'surprise' of John Squire, and in my opinion, have a better performance from Liam. You didn’t pay your hard earned money to see John Squire. You didn’t know until Friday he was there 😂 We paid our money to see Liam Gallagher at Knebworth with a reasonable expectation that he would smash it out of the park. I’d say we got what we paid for. I’ll take a shorter set that doesn’t include Shockwave. That makes the set as a whole much better. Listen, it's a difference of opinion. You don't agree with me, I don't agree with you. If you want less songs at a gig then that's fine, I prefer to have more.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Jun 6, 2022 9:45:33 GMT -5
You didn’t pay your hard earned money to see John Squire. You didn’t know until Friday he was there 😂 We paid our money to see Liam Gallagher at Knebworth with a reasonable expectation that he would smash it out of the park. I’d say we got what we paid for. I’ll take a shorter set that doesn’t include Shockwave. That makes the set as a whole much better. Listen, it's a difference of opinion. You don't agree with me, I don't agree with you. If you want less songs at a gig then that's fine, I prefer to have more. Yeah fair enough. If you were disappointed by that gig there isn’t much I can say. Good luck finding a better one in the future.
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Post by goletitout1986 on Jun 6, 2022 10:06:29 GMT -5
Listen, it's a difference of opinion. You don't agree with me, I don't agree with you. If you want less songs at a gig then that's fine, I prefer to have more. Yeah fair enough. If you were disappointed by that gig there isn’t much I can say. Good luck finding a better one in the future. In the 25+ times I've seen Oasis, Beady Eye, NGHFB and Liam solo, I'm confident I know what for me is a good gig and what was better than Knebworth: City of Manchester 2005 Heaton Park 2009 Noel Royal Albert Hall 2010 Liam Brixton 2017 Liam Paris 2017 Liam Hackney Round Chapel 2019 Liam Royal Albert Hall 2022 To name a few... The gig itself was fine. Liam was decent. Kasabian were banging. But the overall experience of the gig was tainted by the organisation of the event. It took 2.5hrs to get there from London (which I know is heavily on the train company), but surely the organisers could've put on shuttle coaches to prevent the 50 minute walk to/from the gig and then all the info I was given from official sources suggested there would be no way back to London via train after the gig, so I felt like I had to opt to leave early to get back. If this was made clear when the tickets were on sale I could've looked at the coach or camping option but they were all gone (as were any local hotels) when I was told. So I missed Fat White Family who I'd have liked to have seen, all the other support acts, plus all of Liam after Once. Team that with a shorter set and a better performance from Liam on the previous night and it all adds up. So yeah, if I do come across a little disappointed it's because I am.
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Post by artumlobov on Jun 6, 2022 10:08:37 GMT -5
Yeah fair enough. If you were disappointed by that gig there isn’t much I can say. Good luck finding a better one in the future. In the 25+ times I've seen Oasis, Beady Eye, NGHFB and Liam solo, I'm confident I know what for me is a good gig and what was better than Knebworth: City of Manchester 2005 Heaton Park 2009 Noel Royal Albert Hall 2010 Liam Brixton 2017 Liam Paris 2017 Liam Hackney Round Chapel 2019 Liam Royal Albert Hall 2022 To name a few... The gig itself was fine. Liam was decent. Kasabian were banging. But the overall experience of the gig was tainted by the organisation of the event. It took 2.5hrs to get there from London (which I know is heavily on the train company), but surely the organisers could've put on shuttle coaches to prevent the 50 minute walk to/from the gig and then all the info I was given from official sources suggested there would be no way back to London via train after the gig, so I felt like I had to opt to leave early to get back. If this was made clear when the tickets were on sale I could've looked at the coach or camping option but they were all gone (as were any local hotels) when I was told. So I missed Fat White Family who I'd have liked to have seen, all the other support acts, plus all of Liam after Once. So yeah, if I do come across a little annoyed it's because I am. On the positive side, even if John Squire was a surprise then you would have missed it anyway because you were sprinting back to the station with 30 mins of the gig to go. Every cloud!
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Post by goletitout1986 on Jun 6, 2022 10:13:11 GMT -5
In the 25+ times I've seen Oasis, Beady Eye, NGHFB and Liam solo, I'm confident I know what for me is a good gig and what was better than Knebworth: City of Manchester 2005 Heaton Park 2009 Noel Royal Albert Hall 2010 Liam Brixton 2017 Liam Paris 2017 Liam Hackney Round Chapel 2019 Liam Royal Albert Hall 2022 To name a few... The gig itself was fine. Liam was decent. Kasabian were banging. But the overall experience of the gig was tainted by the organisation of the event. It took 2.5hrs to get there from London (which I know is heavily on the train company), but surely the organisers could've put on shuttle coaches to prevent the 50 minute walk to/from the gig and then all the info I was given from official sources suggested there would be no way back to London via train after the gig, so I felt like I had to opt to leave early to get back. If this was made clear when the tickets were on sale I could've looked at the coach or camping option but they were all gone (as were any local hotels) when I was told. So I missed Fat White Family who I'd have liked to have seen, all the other support acts, plus all of Liam after Once. So yeah, if I do come across a little annoyed it's because I am. On the positive side, even if John Squire was a surprise then you would have missed it anyway because you were sprinting back to the station with 30 mins of the gig to go. Every cloud! Or, if it was organised better I could've stayed to the end and not even have had to consider how I was getting back like EVERY other gig I've been to and had a nicer time.
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Post by Wolf on Jun 6, 2022 10:17:42 GMT -5
So how much did Fat White Family piss everyone off?
I rate them highly, and I actually saw them a couple of weeks ago at Wide Awake festival, and I just knew from then they were not going to go down well at Knebworth, and judging from what I'm seeing on Twitter I was bang on the money. I don't even think it's that out there, I've been to two Aphex Twin gigs and Fat White Family are incredibly tame in comparison.
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Post by goletitout1986 on Jun 6, 2022 10:43:22 GMT -5
Or, if it was organised better I could've stayed to the end and not even have had to consider how I was getting back like EVERY other gig I've been to and had a nicer time. I don't think anyone got stranded in Knebworth so I think you really only have yourself to blame unfortunately. #LessonsLearned A very quick search of Twitter will show that plenty of people ended up sleeping on a leisure centre floor or sheltering in McDonald's because of the train situation. The OFFICIAL information on the Knebworth House site, Ticket Master and Live Nation site stated this: 'We do not advise anyone travels by train as there are no services following the event to get you home'.So no, I don't have myself to blame.
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Post by chamu on Jun 6, 2022 10:50:31 GMT -5
Yeah fair enough. If you were disappointed by that gig there isn’t much I can say. Good luck finding a better one in the future. In the 25+ times I've seen Oasis, Beady Eye, NGHFB and Liam solo, I'm confident I know what for me is a good gig and what was better than Knebworth: City of Manchester 2005 Heaton Park 2009 Noel Royal Albert Hall 2010 Liam Brixton 2017 Liam Paris 2017 Liam Hackney Round Chapel 2019 Liam Royal Albert Hall 2022 To name a few... The gig itself was fine. Liam was decent. Kasabian were banging. But the overall experience of the gig was tainted by the organisation of the event. It took 2.5hrs to get there from London (which I know is heavily on the train company), but surely the organisers could've put on shuttle coaches to prevent the 50 minute walk to/from the gig and then all the info I was given from official sources suggested there would be no way back to London via train after the gig, so I felt like I had to opt to leave early to get back. If this was made clear when the tickets were on sale I could've looked at the coach or camping option but they were all gone (as were any local hotels) when I was told. So I missed Fat White Family who I'd have liked to have seen, all the other support acts, plus all of Liam after Once. Team that with a shorter set and a better performance from Liam on the previous night and it all adds up. So yeah, if I do come across a little disappointed it's because I am. Just my opinion, and maybe i´m wrong, but i think the main problem is you didn´t know what kind of gig you attended. A huge gig in the middle of nowhere always is going to be "caothic". Always is going to be difficult to arrive and difficult to left the place. You had multiple options to go there: you could camp over the weekend, you could go by car, by train, by coach...and after a gig of 90k people it´s so obvious you are not going to left in 30 minutes. i went to Wembley and Slane Castle in 2009. And a totally different experience a gig in London, arriving on tube, with a gig in the middle of Ireland, booking a coach from Dublin. I think the purpose of this Knebworth gigs was to live a full experience from the begining of your journey until you arrive to your home. the trip itself should be taken as an experience, the pre gig, the post gig... It was not a gig to live as a stressful thing
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Post by mimmihopps on Jun 6, 2022 10:55:50 GMT -5
Or, if it was organised better I could've stayed to the end and not even have had to consider how I was getting back like EVERY other gig I've been to and had a nicer time. I don't think anyone got stranded in Knebworth so I think you really only have yourself to blame unfortunately. #LessonsLearned No need to be harsh. I hope everyone enjoyed the day and got home safely despite all those issues.
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Post by mattcox048 on Jun 6, 2022 11:22:45 GMT -5
Is it me, or is Liam's voice getting deeper?
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Post by goletitout1986 on Jun 6, 2022 11:30:19 GMT -5
In the 25+ times I've seen Oasis, Beady Eye, NGHFB and Liam solo, I'm confident I know what for me is a good gig and what was better than Knebworth: City of Manchester 2005 Heaton Park 2009 Noel Royal Albert Hall 2010 Liam Brixton 2017 Liam Paris 2017 Liam Hackney Round Chapel 2019 Liam Royal Albert Hall 2022 To name a few... The gig itself was fine. Liam was decent. Kasabian were banging. But the overall experience of the gig was tainted by the organisation of the event. It took 2.5hrs to get there from London (which I know is heavily on the train company), but surely the organisers could've put on shuttle coaches to prevent the 50 minute walk to/from the gig and then all the info I was given from official sources suggested there would be no way back to London via train after the gig, so I felt like I had to opt to leave early to get back. If this was made clear when the tickets were on sale I could've looked at the coach or camping option but they were all gone (as were any local hotels) when I was told. So I missed Fat White Family who I'd have liked to have seen, all the other support acts, plus all of Liam after Once. Team that with a shorter set and a better performance from Liam on the previous night and it all adds up. So yeah, if I do come across a little disappointed it's because I am. Just my opinion, and maybe i´m wrong, but i think the main problem is you didn´t know what kind of gig you attended. A huge gig in the middle of nowhere always is going to be "caothic". Always is going to be difficult to arrive and difficult to left the place. You had multiple options to go there: you could camp over the weekend, you could go by car, by train, by coach...and after a gig of 90k people it´s so obvious you are not going to left in 30 minutes. i went to Wembley and Slane Castle in 2009. And a totally different experience a gig in London, arriving on tube, with a gig in the middle of Ireland, booking a coach from Dublin. I think the purpose of this Knebworth gigs was to live a full experience from the begining of your journey until you arrive to your home. the trip itself should be taken as an experience, the pre gig, the post gig... It was not a gig to live as a stressful thing Yes you are wrong. I knew exactly what type of gig I was attending. I even said to my friend for the 2 Liam gigs we've seen this year, the RAH was going to be for the view and quality of the sound (best gig venue going!) and Knebworth was going to be all about the event. I have been to several festivals both in the UK and abroad and they were much easier to get to/from than Knebworth. I got a train away from Heaton Park in 2009 pretty quickly. Travel wise, unfortunately, I had limited options - not a camping person anymore and don't have any of the gear, couldn't go by car as my partner needed it, coach had sold out. Train was the only option as I live 100+ miles from Knebworth. As I said before, I've never had to consider how to get home from a gig as much as Knebworth because of the constant info I was getting from Ticketmaster saying they advised not to travel by train. It was pretty evident from the comments online that lots of other people had this headache too and for me, this had an impact on the 'event'.
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Post by Mario on Jun 6, 2022 11:57:59 GMT -5
michael kiwanuka flying under the radar on the Knebworth card was really cool. Liam probably doesn't know anything about him. Very talented artist & songwriter. I hope to see him live some day.
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Post by yogurt on Jun 6, 2022 12:29:20 GMT -5
So how much did Fat White Family piss everyone off? I rate them highly, and I actually saw them a couple of weeks ago at Wide Awake festival, and I just knew from then they were not going to go down well at Knebworth, and judging from what I'm seeing on Twitter I was bang on the money. I don't even think it's that out there, I've been to two Aphex Twin gigs and Fat White Family are incredibly tame in comparison. The Twitter comments are hilarious, seems like they freaked out a lot of Liam fans. Must’ve been funny, a thousands people attending for a nice arm in arm sing along to Wonderwall having to watch the singer of FWF roll around in his stinking undies. I quite like them though, but funnily enough if you strip away the on stage antics by the singer, a lot of their music isn’t that out there at all, some is borderline pretty tame and generic, on the records at least.
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Post by goletitout1986 on Jun 6, 2022 12:59:45 GMT -5
So how much did Fat White Family piss everyone off? I rate them highly, and I actually saw them a couple of weeks ago at Wide Awake festival, and I just knew from then they were not going to go down well at Knebworth, and judging from what I'm seeing on Twitter I was bang on the money. I don't even think it's that out there, I've been to two Aphex Twin gigs and Fat White Family are incredibly tame in comparison. The Twitter comments are hilarious, seems like they freaked out a lot of Liam fans. Must’ve been funny, a thousands people attending for a nice arm in arm sing along to Wonderwall having to watch the singer of FWF roll around in his stinking undies. I quite like them though, but funnily enough if you strip away the on stage antics by the singer, a lot of their music isn’t that out there at all, some is borderline pretty tame and generic, on the records at least. LOL. I've not seen much of them live but have seen some stuff today. Yeah the singer looked naked in one gig, hilarious. I'd have enjoyed seeing them I think. Whitest boy on the beach is a great tune.
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Post by GlastoEls on Jun 6, 2022 14:27:40 GMT -5
michael kiwanuka flying under the radar on the Knebworth card was really cool. Liam probably doesn't know anything about him. Very talented artist & songwriter. I hope to see him live some day. I had a great time listening to him.
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Post by girllikeabomb on Jun 6, 2022 15:19:53 GMT -5
Is it me, or is Liam's voice getting deeper?
Tends to happen with age. Upper range narrows but on the good news side, you can have a very rich, deep voice for a long time.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jun 6, 2022 15:22:45 GMT -5
Is it me, or is Liam's voice getting deeper? Tends to happen with age. Upper range narrows but on the good news side, you can have a very rich, deep voice for a long time.
Voices definitely get deeper and more gruff. I was listening to DM and MG reissues with Noel sung demos. His voice is so high and clean. He’s nowhere near that in 2022. Not saying it’s bad but he sounds like he’s on helium in 1994.
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Post by girllikeabomb on Jun 6, 2022 15:50:03 GMT -5
Tends to happen with age. Upper range narrows but on the good news side, you can have a very rich, deep voice for a long time.
Voices definitely get deeper and more gruff. I was listening to DM and MG reissues with Noel sung demos. His voice is so high and clean. He’s nowhere near that in 2022. Not saying it’s bad but he sounds like he’s on helium in 1994.
Yeah, high and clean won't be coming back. But he's found a zone in the shows this year with that smokier, gravelly voice that is really working -- and there are some great tones where his voice is now that are cooler in a way than the prettier voice of yore.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Jun 6, 2022 16:07:44 GMT -5
Yeah fair enough. If you were disappointed by that gig there isn’t much I can say. Good luck finding a better one in the future. In the 25+ times I've seen Oasis, Beady Eye, NGHFB and Liam solo, I'm confident I know what for me is a good gig and what was better than Knebworth: City of Manchester 2005 Heaton Park 2009 Noel Royal Albert Hall 2010 Liam Brixton 2017 Liam Paris 2017 Liam Hackney Round Chapel 2019 Liam Royal Albert Hall 2022 To name a few... The gig itself was fine. Liam was decent. Kasabian were banging. But the overall experience of the gig was tainted by the organisation of the event. It took 2.5hrs to get there from London (which I know is heavily on the train company), but surely the organisers could've put on shuttle coaches to prevent the 50 minute walk to/from the gig and then all the info I was given from official sources suggested there would be no way back to London via train after the gig, so I felt like I had to opt to leave early to get back. If this was made clear when the tickets were on sale I could've looked at the coach or camping option but they were all gone (as were any local hotels) when I was told. So I missed Fat White Family who I'd have liked to have seen, all the other support acts, plus all of Liam after Once. Team that with a shorter set and a better performance from Liam on the previous night and it all adds up. So yeah, if I do come across a little disappointed it's because I am. Have no idea what you're going on about with John Squire or the set being shorter being as you didn't see the former and shortened the set yourself by nearly a third. Checking the train times all week suggested that there were services running on both evenings.
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Post by goletitout1986 on Jun 6, 2022 16:31:39 GMT -5
In the 25+ times I've seen Oasis, Beady Eye, NGHFB and Liam solo, I'm confident I know what for me is a good gig and what was better than Knebworth: City of Manchester 2005 Heaton Park 2009 Noel Royal Albert Hall 2010 Liam Brixton 2017 Liam Paris 2017 Liam Hackney Round Chapel 2019 Liam Royal Albert Hall 2022 To name a few... The gig itself was fine. Liam was decent. Kasabian were banging. But the overall experience of the gig was tainted by the organisation of the event. It took 2.5hrs to get there from London (which I know is heavily on the train company), but surely the organisers could've put on shuttle coaches to prevent the 50 minute walk to/from the gig and then all the info I was given from official sources suggested there would be no way back to London via train after the gig, so I felt like I had to opt to leave early to get back. If this was made clear when the tickets were on sale I could've looked at the coach or camping option but they were all gone (as were any local hotels) when I was told. So I missed Fat White Family who I'd have liked to have seen, all the other support acts, plus all of Liam after Once. Team that with a shorter set and a better performance from Liam on the previous night and it all adds up. So yeah, if I do come across a little disappointed it's because I am. Have no idea what you're going on about with John Squire or the set being shorter being as you didn't see the former and shortened the set yourself by nearly a third. Checking the train times all week suggested that there were services running on both evenings. I'd just give it up and move on if I were you.
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Post by yogurt on Jun 6, 2022 17:04:36 GMT -5
The Twitter comments are hilarious, seems like they freaked out a lot of Liam fans. Must’ve been funny, a thousands people attending for a nice arm in arm sing along to Wonderwall having to watch the singer of FWF roll around in his stinking undies. I quite like them though, but funnily enough if you strip away the on stage antics by the singer, a lot of their music isn’t that out there at all, some is borderline pretty tame and generic, on the records at least. LOL. I've not seen much of them live but have seen some stuff today. Yeah the singer looked naked in one gig, hilarious. I'd have enjoyed seeing them I think. Whitest boy on the beach is a great tune. Yeah some gigs he plays with his knob out Knebworth got a slightly tamer show in comparison to some of their gigs
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