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Post by Sadie on Jun 5, 2022 20:39:55 GMT -5
Really sorry to hear you had a difficult experience. It's not right, and hopefully you calling them out on it makes it better for others in the future. I would have said this on Twitter, but you've understandably restricted comments. Not logged on here for years but wanted to see what people made of the gigs- I went Saturday. I'm so chuffed Liam didn't let any of us down as bad as the organisers let you down. Hope you have better future experiences. Peace out ✌️ Thank you, that's so sweet! I went on Saturday too and it's just a shame that the organisation was so poor cause Liam was incredible. Even when I went to LCCC in 2018 it was nowhere near as bad as this, yes the view was far back but I was directly opposite centre stage not at the side and there was nothing obstructing my view. I'm seeing Noel in a few weeks at a much smaller outdoor venue so I hope the experience is better and I think I can safely say I'll never bother to go to Knebworth again in the future should anything come up
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Post by goletitout1986 on Jun 6, 2022 3:30:07 GMT -5
Really sorry to hear you had a difficult experience. It's not right, and hopefully you calling them out on it makes it better for others in the future. I would have said this on Twitter, but you've understandably restricted comments. Not logged on here for years but wanted to see what people made of the gigs- I went Saturday. I'm so chuffed Liam didn't let any of us down as bad as the organisers let you down. Hope you have better future experiences. Peace out ✌️ Thank you, that's so sweet! I went on Saturday too and it's just a shame that the organisation was so poor cause Liam was incredible. Even when I went to LCCC in 2018 it was nowhere near as bad as this, yes the view was far back but I was directly opposite centre stage not at the side and there was nothing obstructing my view. I'm seeing Noel in a few weeks at a much smaller outdoor venue so I hope the experience is better and I think I can safely say I'll never bother to go to Knebworth again in the future should anything come up My issues pale in comparison to you, but I am in total agreement that I would never go to Knebworth again.
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Post by chamu on Jun 6, 2022 3:44:55 GMT -5
What am i hearing here? Sounds absolutely incredible. This has been recorded in 1996?! Glad all the people who went there and spent one of the greatest time of their lives! THIS IS HISTORY!!
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Post by jeffrey on Jun 6, 2022 3:52:43 GMT -5
I wonder how much Liam made (net profit) from the Knebworth gigs? Well into the millions, I’d assume…
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Post by GlastoEls on Jun 6, 2022 4:06:24 GMT -5
I wonder how much Liam made (net profit) from the Knebworth gigs? Well into the millions, I’d assume… I’d venture not given the scale and required infrastructure!
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Post by Diamond in The Dark on Jun 6, 2022 4:21:46 GMT -5
I try to translate here an extraordinary Italian review on Knebworth:
While Her Majesty's subjects parade through Buckingham Palace for Queen Elizabeth's Platinum Jubilee, a few miles north of London, England pays homage to its king. How Liam Gallagher has returned to being the UK's most influential rock star is hard to say, it will be the three lucky solo records and a newfound voice that have awakened a dormant fervor waiting for a reason to explode, it will be the surprising following of fans. of the new generation that when Oasis dominated the charts were not even conceived which makes Knebworth 2022 much more than a revival for nostalgics. But no one a few years ago would have imagined that on 3 and 4 June the younger Gallagher would again find himself in front of 170 thousand people to send Knebworth twice sold out, where in August 1996 Oasis held the most important concerts of his career. Maybe for a reunion, but as a soloist? Impossible. And instead here it is, as it was 26 years ago, in iconic places in the history of Oasis and britpop: the Stevenage station where the procession to Knebworth House starts, that huge undulating and sloping lawn with the stage at the back. And he motionless, hieratic, sacred. In '96 Oasis' two live shows at Knebworth were the highest paying show in British history: 250 thousand people in two evenings, 2.6 million tried to book tickets, 5% of the English population. It can be hazarded that if in '96 you were an Englishman between 16 and 40, you tried to go to those concerts. For some it marked the happiest moment in his life, for many the last carefree day before adulthood. He offered everyone the opportunity to feel part of something greater than himself. They made films, books, reports: it was the show that sanctioned the cultural hegemony of britpop, "the show that defined a generation". Today that that scene no longer exists Knebworth is the private celebration of Liam Gallagher and that generation, which has never stopped believing in him, and in itself. But not only that, because to reach it is that of their children, who for reasons of age have never seen an Oasis concert but in 2022 they are perhaps the majority of Liam's audience. Like a story that starts over. And then there he is again on that stage, fifty years old, even if the shoulder groups are not as epic as then and among these only the Kasabian warm up. Instead, as in '96, the Stone Roses guitarist John Squire joins him on stage for Champagne Supernova: "It is thanks to him that I formed a band", remembers the singer above all to his new fanbase who is studying British classics. For some, Oasis should have disbanded after those shows, at the peak. It was never an option for Liam: "It was always a matter of life or death, what was I supposed to do? Stay at home and count the money? Fuck it." This is why Knebworth 2022 is the story of a resurrection. Only eight years ago the Beady Eye shipwreck, the post Oasis project, less than a thousand paying at the Orion in Rome. Then the divorce, money problems, depression due to a musical failure that was also human: without a band, without being a rock star, Liam Gallagher no longer felt that he had a purpose in the world. In 2017 the turning point: a new manager and partner, a found daughter, a successful solo record. Seeing him on that stage over the weekend allows everyone to believe in second chances, and that if you go deep into someone's heart you will stay there forever, despite mistakes. At the weekend London is a sea that flows between British flags and royal banners and the cross flow of Gallagherian faithful between those who go on Friday and those who wait for Saturday. Two tribes that mix in the streets and pubs of the City, including Gallagher's cosplayer haircuts, Oasis t-shirts and Pretty Green, the fashion line he founded. Here everyone talks like him, repeating things like "Biblical", "Celestial", "C'mon you know", slogans known to those who follow him on social networks that have become code words to recognize each other among members of the same sect. And here everyone calls him by name, just Liam, like one of the family. And maybe it is, not only for the image of a boastful rock star but close to his people who has created himself in this career phase, perhaps the only big one of which among ramblings, blunders and insults we are sure he manages the profile in person. Twitter. But mostly because he is part of their lives, he has been the companion of the savage Saturday nights and psychologist in the days of depression, wedding witness at weddings and hugs at funerals. "Oasis are not a band, they are a generation, they are all that represents us", swear the old fans in the crowd. The younger ones can say the same through Liam. Because Oasis for everyone present on that lawn is Liam, useless to go around it. Noel wrote the songs, but Liam gave them a soul that makes the difference between a great group and one capable of changing your life. The Knebworth of '96 celebrated the epic of five boys from the lower Mancunian class in a year and a half passed from public housing to the largest live in English history. But they dressed like them, behaved like them, frequented their own pubs, talked to them: the young adults of the working class, the unemployed and the rejected. And if for the people Noel has betrayed him, Liam is still the working class hero of British rock, in an alchemy with the public that has no equal. Perhaps it is easy to find it with the classics of the Oasis repertoire with which the show starts in bursts, immediately firing heavy loads, such as the Rock'n'roll Star synthesis of the band's iconography and incredibly excluded from the setlist 26 years ago, or the breathtaking sequence of cult songs. with which it closes. Less obvious to succeed with the solo pieces that have now been memorized by everyone and have enlisted that new generation of Gallagherian faithful to the cause. The essentiality of the 90s of the scenography, some lights and the big screen, is there to remind us that we are in front of one of the last rock icons. Bringing onto the stage machinery a la James Bond style Coldplay or Muse has never ever served Oasis, it is not useful to Liam, his static, immobile, papal presence is enough. As always, he only moves to get on stage, stands behind the microphone, argues with the sound engineer to have more volume in his voice and hands behind his back gives the verb. "We played in stadiums like we were in the pub, we were the biggest band in the world and we didn't give a damn", he said of Oasis. And if Noel has chosen other paths, pop, calm, for Liam it is still the question of life or death at the time. While he spits out the final lines of Live forever he does it as if it were the last thing he will do in life. And even though it is this way of singing that destroyed his vocal cords, it is a symbol of the connection with his fans: being here, now, together, is the only thing that matters. Then if it has to stop, it will stop. Were it not for this, Liam Gallagher would have been just a singer and Oasis just a band. But among Knebworth's ecstatic gazes, strangers hugging, laughing, crying together, people who have nothing in common but are one soul for 100 minutes, it is clear that there is much, too much, more.
Luca Bortolotti (La Repubblica, 5 June 2022)
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Post by tomlivesforever on Jun 6, 2022 4:24:27 GMT -5
Fuck me Roll it Over sounds good. I've never really paid that much attention to it before.
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Post by themanwholivesinhell on Jun 6, 2022 4:31:31 GMT -5
Just listened to the radio highlights. His voice sounds so clear, the crowd videos I've seen, while great, didn't really do him justice. To think when the gigs were announced people were seriously worried his voice would be shot by the end of these three gigs. Really excited for Hampden now. Bet it sells out now off the back of the glowing reviews for these gigs. Yeah i admittedly was fearing he’d have blown out his voice after two gigs to 75k+ in three days. But nope, some people at all of them even said Saturday was the best. Either way, one City fan from Longsight never afraid to speak his mind sure ain’t done yet…..And for a change it’s not my dad 😂
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Post by coconutstall on Jun 6, 2022 4:35:47 GMT -5
Fuck me Roll it Over sounds good. I've never really paid that much attention to it before. It's amazing, had the same thing where I didn't take any notice of it before but then I got gifted SOTSOG on vinyl and was shocked with how good it sounded the first time I listened to that. Glad Liam is giving it another spin.
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Post by GlastoEls on Jun 6, 2022 4:41:40 GMT -5
I try to translate here an extraordinary Italian review on Knebworth: Thank you for that. One of the most astonishing reviews ever .. spot on.
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Post by girllikeabomb on Jun 6, 2022 4:44:39 GMT -5
I wonder how much Liam made (net profit) from the Knebworth gigs? Well into the millions, I’d assume…
If it’s true there were 170000 people there and they each paid an average of 65 pounds for a ticket, that’s gross receipts of a bit over 11 million pounds.
BUT then you gotta take a whole bunch of taxes and venue expenses out of that. So let’s say you’re left with 50-60% of the gross receipts after that, maybe 6 million pounds—that then gets split in some ratio between all the bands who played and the promoter (who typically gets 15%.) How exactly that breaks down is of course contractual and Liam could take varying amounts of the pie (but don't forget he also has to pay members of his band, as well as roadies/techs).
I’d say it was a good night's work (or 2!), though it might not be quite as stratospheric as it seems. (There are also some other revenues beyond box office -- merchandise, etc.)
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Post by RocketMan on Jun 6, 2022 4:49:51 GMT -5
Fuck me Roll it Over sounds good. I've never really paid that much attention to it before. And what a nice touch to bring out a full choir. So great
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Post by artumlobov on Jun 6, 2022 4:50:48 GMT -5
Big time rappers usually claim a million for headlining festivals. Given it's Liam's event/risk, there is only one stage with a handful of acts and he should get a premium for selling beer to his audience (lol) I'd guess maybe £1.5m a night before tax.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2022 5:53:46 GMT -5
I try to translate here an extraordinary Italian review on Knebworth: Luca Bortolotti (La Repubblica, 5 June 2022) thanks for sharing/translating. great review, simply because it hits the spot where the UK press is still so class-ridden and blinkered.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2022 5:56:01 GMT -5
I wonder how much Liam made (net profit) from the Knebworth gigs? Well into the millions, I’d assume…
If it’s true there were 170000 people there and they each paid an average of 65 pounds for a ticket, that’s gross receipts of a bit over 11 million pounds.
BUT then you gotta take a whole bunch of taxes and venue expenses out of that. So let’s say you’re left with 50-60% of the gross receipts after that, maybe 6 million pounds—that then gets split in some ratio between all the bands who played and the promoter (who typically gets 15%.) How exactly that breaks down is of course contractual and Liam could take varying amounts of the pie (but don't forget he also has to pay members of his band, as well as roadies/techs).
I’d say it was a good night's work (or 2!), though it might not be quite as stratospheric as it seems. (There are also some other revenues beyond box office -- merchandise, etc.)
some merch income can rival/exceed that of ticket revenue
was wondering if the band get a straight retainer or are paid some kind of 'commission' for big shows. The fact that they've all stuck with him points towards money not being an issue, as it often is...
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Post by andycat on Jun 6, 2022 6:13:07 GMT -5
Out of interest would Liam have made more ££ off recent live shows (2 knebworth Man City ) Then he will the album ??
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Post by rockrevival on Jun 6, 2022 6:30:04 GMT -5
I hope they release this gig. With a proper mix it'll sound mega.
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Post by goletitout1986 on Jun 6, 2022 8:22:45 GMT -5
After watching a good hour of footage from both nights, he definitely sounds better on the Friday to me.
Very annoying to be honest after going through the difficulty of getting tickets, only for the extra date to be added before the original. 3 big gigs in 4 nights was always going to stretch his voice and it's pretty clear to me if Knebworth was available, the extra date should've been the Sunday, not the Friday.
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Post by artumlobov on Jun 6, 2022 8:26:08 GMT -5
I'll put in a request for Liam's management team and network rail to have a lessons learned with you.
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Post by artumlobov on Jun 6, 2022 8:37:22 GMT -5
#Reported
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Post by artumlobov on Jun 6, 2022 8:43:07 GMT -5
Sorry but will have to keep reporting you if you use such obscene language. Have a twix and chill out or something.
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Post by goletitout1986 on Jun 6, 2022 8:45:21 GMT -5
Sorry but will have to keep reporting you if you use such obscene language. Have a twix and chill out or something. LOL. Telling teacher!!
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Post by welshylad on Jun 6, 2022 8:46:42 GMT -5
lolz
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Post by tomlivesforever on Jun 6, 2022 8:52:47 GMT -5
After watching a good hour of footage from both nights, he definitely sounds better on the Friday to me. Very annoying to be honest after going through the difficulty of getting tickets, only for the extra date to be added before the original. 3 big gigs in 4 nights was always going to stretch his voice and it's pretty clear to me if Knebworth was available, the extra date should've been the Sunday, not the Friday. He was very good on Saturday, I don’t get what the problem is. Talking like he ballsed it up.
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Post by goletitout1986 on Jun 6, 2022 8:56:32 GMT -5
After watching a good hour of footage from both nights, he definitely sounds better on the Friday to me. Very annoying to be honest after going through the difficulty of getting tickets, only for the extra date to be added before the original. 3 big gigs in 4 nights was always going to stretch his voice and it's pretty clear to me if Knebworth was available, the extra date should've been the Sunday, not the Friday. He was very good on Saturday, I don’t get what the problem is. Talking like he ballsed it up. Nope. I said he sounded better on the Friday. Didn't say he wasn't good on the Saturday, just better on the Friday.
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