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Post by jezza2 on Oct 9, 2021 12:41:44 GMT -5
Will All You're Dreaming Of make an appearance?
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Post by tiger40 on Oct 9, 2021 12:49:24 GMT -5
Incredible stuff even if it's 80k instead of 120k. Hopefully one of the nights is covered live in radio or TV. Yeah, that would be great if one of Liam's Knebworth gigs was shown live on TV or broadcast live on the radio. But like I said yesterday it would be great if one of them was broadcast live online around the world. |
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Post by tiger40 on Oct 9, 2021 12:51:15 GMT -5
I think that Liam could do three nights at Knebworth quite easily.
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Post by tiger40 on Oct 9, 2021 12:52:53 GMT -5
Oh yeah, I wonder what all the haters think now who wrote Liam off a few years ago.
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Post by girllikeabomb on Oct 9, 2021 14:03:22 GMT -5
As good as Liam's solo albums are(I'm not that keen on As You Were but really like WMWN?), this shows the power and importance of Oasis in the UK. Only a handful of artists in the history of popular music could do this after almost 30 years in the business. Just wish I could go..... This is a fantastic post, I would go one step further and suggest Liam is almost in a league of his own because he's having success as a solo artist and giving us all the Oasis stuff, but he's doing it under his own name. I'm struggling to think of members of other bands that can match it. Roger Waters from Pink Floyd ironically is phenomenal on the big stage (Gilmour solo hasn't attempted it in the UK and I don't think he would). Ozzy Osbourne could have done a single Ozzfest of this size probably 10 years ago (prior to the final Black Sabbath reunion) but for years that event had multiple stages and was genuinely a festival so I'm not sure if that counts. No one from the Stones solo would get anywhere near this level. Same with U2, same with Led Zeppelin bar Page getting someone like Steven Tyler / Myles Kennedy in for a full Led Zeppelin set. Liam has the power as both a solo artist and with Oasis. With the exception of Hyde Park like it was Live 8 (a one off colossus), the UK is not big enough to hold him now. Liam is absolutely unique in the world and is not only sold as but more importantly perceived as the last defender of British rock and roll so that alone makes him a standout in this era. I would argue though that the power to sell out Knebworth lies at least more than half with the Oasis songs, so Noel deserves some of the credit as well. I'm definitely not one to say the songs only belong to Noel -- they belong to both Gallaghers, and only Liam can give them that largeness that can fill the sonic edges of a giant field -- but it's not fair to say Liam would be where he is without them. The songs belong to both and it is both who helped to make this event possible. There are other people who have garnered larger audiences after going solo. Rod Stewart was in a famous band, but solo he played the biggest concert in rock history -- to over 3 million people in Copacabana. Obviously Paul McCartney was most famous for his band, but solo he played to 184,000 in Brazil. Same for Tina Turner. Ricky Martin started in Menudo and played a single concert to over 100,000 in Mexico. (Playing to 80,000 doesn't get you even in the top 25 biggest concerts of all time. Again, not diminishing how great it is, just putting it into historical perspective.) As for modern acts, in many ways the "really big show" died out. Post-rock pop stars with their lavish, choreographed stage shows aren't well suited to playing in large fields or mega-stadiums. In rap/hip-hop, where monetary success has long been a theme, the competition has largely focused not on who could have the largest single concert but on who could mount the highest-grossing tour. Show them the money. But there was also Woodstock 99, where DMX famously played in front of a 200,000 crowd. Would also say that Liam can only draw that crowd in some places. He can't do it in the USA, whereas many of the people you mention and those I mention above are equally popular in the USA. Oasis did semi-crack the USA, but not enough to stay hugely popular 25 years later. It's hard to do without really working it (and now, even working it, the landscape is so different that it's near impossible.) It's still amazing and beautiful and wish for all who are going to have the one (or two) days of your lives. |
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Post by tomlivesforever on Oct 9, 2021 14:17:41 GMT -5
You can’t really compare Liam at Knebworth to Oasis in a larger sense. Oasis were a youth culture phenomenon that caught the crest of the wave that took in sport and politics.
In a smaller sense Liam has done something similar, the feeling that things had been shit for some time but were about to get better. Liam has tapped in to that same feeling.
Oasis songs lend themselves to a communal optimism and they’re being sung by a man that a crowd still feel they can identify with, young and old and that in essence is Liam’s appeal and greatest achievement, he still feels like the man off the street.
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Post by welshylad on Oct 9, 2021 15:07:36 GMT -5
There's no point in comparing.
Imo you will never beat Oasis. I'm a Liam fan over Noel 100%, but what made that band was the both of them.
Liam at Knebworth will be absolutely immense, don't get me wrong. But it's not Oasis, so just don't try comparing. Leave Oasis in the past and move on, enjoy it for what it is.
It will be brilliant
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Post by powerage09 on Oct 9, 2021 18:38:47 GMT -5
This is a fantastic post, I would go one step further and suggest Liam is almost in a league of his own because he's having success as a solo artist and giving us all the Oasis stuff, but he's doing it under his own name. I'm struggling to think of members of other bands that can match it. Roger Waters from Pink Floyd ironically is phenomenal on the big stage (Gilmour solo hasn't attempted it in the UK and I don't think he would). Ozzy Osbourne could have done a single Ozzfest of this size probably 10 years ago (prior to the final Black Sabbath reunion) but for years that event had multiple stages and was genuinely a festival so I'm not sure if that counts. No one from the Stones solo would get anywhere near this level. Same with U2, same with Led Zeppelin bar Page getting someone like Steven Tyler / Myles Kennedy in for a full Led Zeppelin set. Liam has the power as both a solo artist and with Oasis. With the exception of Hyde Park like it was Live 8 (a one off colossus), the UK is not big enough to hold him now. Liam is absolutely unique in the world and is not only sold as but more importantly perceived as the last defender of British rock and roll so that alone makes him a standout in this era. I would argue though that the power to sell out Knebworth lies at least more than half with the Oasis songs, so Noel deserves some of the credit as well. I'm definitely not one to say the songs only belong to Noel -- they belong to both Gallaghers, and only Liam can give them that largeness that can fill the sonic edges of a giant field -- but it's not fair to say Liam would be where he is without them. The songs belong to both and it is both who helped to make this event possible. There are other people who have garnered larger audiences after going solo. Rod Stewart was in a famous band, but solo he played the biggest concert in rock history -- to over 3 million people in Copacabana. Obviously Paul McCartney was most famous for his band, but solo he played to 184,000 in Brazil. Same for Tina Turner. Ricky Martin started in Menudo and played a single concert to over 100,000 in Mexico. (Playing to 80,000 doesn't get you even in the top 25 biggest concerts of all time. Again, not diminishing how great it is, just putting it into historical perspective.) As for modern acts, in many ways the "really big show" died out. Post-rock pop stars with their lavish, choreographed stage shows aren't well suited to playing in large fields or mega-stadiums. In rap/hip-hop, where monetary success has long been a theme, the competition has largely focused not on who could have the largest single concert but on who could mount the highest-grossing tour. Show them the money. But there was also Woodstock 99, where DMX famously played in front of a 200,000 crowd. Would also say that Liam can only draw that crowd in some places. He can't do it in the USA, whereas many of the people you mention and those I mention above are equally popular in the USA. Oasis did semi-crack the USA, but not enough to stay hugely popular 25 years later. It's hard to do without really working it (and now, even working it, the landscape is so different that it's near impossible.) It's still amazing and beautiful and wish for all who are going to have the one (or two) days of your lives. All excellent points. Starting with Noel, absolutely agree with you 100%. It would be interesting to see what Noel would achieve if he carried out his threat to play an entire Oasis set, but even then I don't think he would hit the same heights in ticket sales. My post wasn't to put Noel down at all, it was more aimed at how incredible the response to Liam's return over the last 4 years has been and that he's going to start his next album and tour cycle with 2 nights at Knebworth. Amazing achievement, he must have had doubts ahead of As You Were. I don't know how I managed to forget McCartney, he was only a Beatle  . Good shout on Rod Stewart, the Faces were class. Oasis were fairly irrelevant from 2000 onwards in the States, and even up until the end they weren't any great shakes in Europe, hop over the English channel and they're in medium sized theatres post Be Here Now and headlining selected festivals. It's only the UK that can't hold Oasis and Liam, they could do multiple nights in most arenas / stadiums / fields on any standard UK trek so beyond that again I agree completely. |
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Post by girllikeabomb on Oct 9, 2021 21:24:38 GMT -5
. It would be interesting to see what Noel would achieve if he carried out his threat to play an entire Oasis set, but even then I don't think he would hit the same heights in ticket sales. Yeah, don’t think Noel really wants to compete directly with Liam on Oasis sets. I do feel for him a bit in that way: if he actually does have a hankering to do a tour of chamber orchestra arrangements of Oasis tunes, as he’s mentioned (perhaps idly), Liam makes it a bit harder to do that, at least for the time being. (Personally would rather see them compete on new records anyway!) For me, while I’d always prefer to hear Liam rip through most of the old songs, there will never be anything quite like what their voices in harmony did to me. (Which is why I’m still on the side of hoping for some kind of momentary, one-off reuniting of any kind in the future—doesn’t need to be an album or a tour or formally called "Oasis," just the two brothers’ voices together one more time in some form or another before I die. Amen.) |
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Post by oasiscam29 on Oct 9, 2021 21:58:20 GMT -5
I would love Noel to sing The Girl With The X ray eyes it's crazy how this song hasn't been sung live yet ? a total transitivity when i believe it's one of this greatest tunes since going solo sounds like a James Bond Theme Song !  |
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Post by Jgrp on Oct 10, 2021 2:01:31 GMT -5
There's no point I'm comparing. Imo you will never beat Oasis. I'm a Liam fan over Noel 100%, but what made that band was the both of them. Liam at Knebworth will be absolutely immense, don't get me wrong. But it's not Oasis, so just don't try comparing. Leave Oasis in the past and move on, enjoy it for what it is. It will be brilliant Here here. If I had the choice of oasis or Liam in 2022 at knebworth I’d choose Liam. Oasis is over for me. Loved what it was but it’s in the past. Liam solo feels fresh and new with decent solo tracks, amazing set lists and a good mix of old school and young fans. Let’s push things forward. (Can’t understand the 2009’esque kasabian support choice!) |
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Post by GlastoEls on Oct 10, 2021 3:12:45 GMT -5
There's no point I'm comparing. Imo you will never beat Oasis. I'm a Liam fan over Noel 100%, but what made that band was the both of them. Liam at Knebworth will be absolutely immense, don't get me wrong. But it's not Oasis, so just don't try comparing. Leave Oasis in the past and move on, enjoy it for what it is. It will be brilliant Here here. If I had the choice of oasis or Liam in 2022 at knebworth I’d choose Liam. Liam solo feels fresh and new with decent solo tracks, amazing set lists and a good mix of old school and young fans. Massive yep. |
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Post by darmin on Oct 10, 2021 3:45:55 GMT -5
I agree that we cannot compare Oasis and Liam solo in terms of grandiosity but I think that the trajectory in smaller scale is kinda similarish. As GlastoEls said from smaller venues to Knebworth in 3 years. I don’t agree that it’s just Liam’s name working for him. He did a very good job. Noel is as famous as Liam and I didn’t see him (so far) selling out even venues like Finsbury park. I don’t bring up Noel to stir shit. It’s just easy to compare them because they both were appr. the same age when they started their solo careers, they both have the same level of fame, the same fanbase. Same genre of music etc. The timing of start of his solo career was also perfect- ppl were tired of Oasis, Liam, RnR cliches etc. I.e. what one could do in terms of success the other theoretically could do too imo. Yeah Liam has charisma and voice of frontman (huge advantage when we talk about live music) and Noel.. well, not so much but Noel has his strong suits Liam doesn’t have. I don't wanna make it a Liam vs Noel thing, so don't take anything I'm gonna say as a knock on the other Noel was headlining the likes of T in the Park and selling out arenas, NGHFB #1 is still the best selling post-Oasis release by a wide margin and even sold more than a couple of Oasis records He could've carried on in that direction, that doesn't mean he could've got to Knebworth because we all know he's not as much of a frontman as Liam nor as much of a "rockstar" etc, but that would've been the safe path I'd go even further and say if he did an acoustic record after Chasing Yesterday that would've been a huge thing He took the risk and drifted apart instead, put out Who Built The Moon? knowing that wouldn't sit well with part of the fanbase and went even further with the EPs Not saying it was a conscious decision to get smaller, don't think anyone would want less success in his life, but as I've said before I think he'd happily live as a decent-sized but not massive act if that means he's got complete freedom and control of his art Liam's comeback story is fantastic, but you don't get that without him being "the Oasis frontman", which is fine btw I'm not criticising him for it because you still gotta pull it off and it's rare to see someone being so successful both in a band and then solo But Noel took a step back and he knew what he was doing, he feels free to do what he wants with no pressure and that's great He doesn't wanna be "the Oasis songwriter", probably never gonna completely shake that label off for the masses, but he's trying to make NGHFB a thing on its own I do believe if he chose the safest road, he could've pulled off a Finsbury Park kind of thing, especially after the whole injection of new fans Oasis got after Supersonic Who’s talking about WBTM and Noel’s “experimental” phase” ? Liam sold out Finsbury Park in 2017 I think after releasing his first solo album . Noel’s first two albums were pretty safe, could be oasis albums. His setlist in 2011 looked like this, also pretty safe: 8/9 oasis songs, 10/11 solo songs Supersonic was released in 2016, year earlier than WBTM. Why didn’t he announce a big gig after that if it’s so easy? Anyway I don’t want to shit on Noel’s undisputed accomplishments. My point was that being Gallagher from Oasis and singing Oasis songs isn’t enough for selling out big venues, you have to work hard for it |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Oct 10, 2021 4:11:49 GMT -5
I don't wanna make it a Liam vs Noel thing, so don't take anything I'm gonna say as a knock on the other Noel was headlining the likes of T in the Park and selling out arenas, NGHFB #1 is still the best selling post-Oasis release by a wide margin and even sold more than a couple of Oasis records He could've carried on in that direction, that doesn't mean he could've got to Knebworth because we all know he's not as much of a frontman as Liam nor as much of a "rockstar" etc, but that would've been the safe path I'd go even further and say if he did an acoustic record after Chasing Yesterday that would've been a huge thing He took the risk and drifted apart instead, put out Who Built The Moon? knowing that wouldn't sit well with part of the fanbase and went even further with the EPs Not saying it was a conscious decision to get smaller, don't think anyone would want less success in his life, but as I've said before I think he'd happily live as a decent-sized but not massive act if that means he's got complete freedom and control of his art Liam's comeback story is fantastic, but you don't get that without him being "the Oasis frontman", which is fine btw I'm not criticising him for it because you still gotta pull it off and it's rare to see someone being so successful both in a band and then solo But Noel took a step back and he knew what he was doing, he feels free to do what he wants with no pressure and that's great He doesn't wanna be "the Oasis songwriter", probably never gonna completely shake that label off for the masses, but he's trying to make NGHFB a thing on its own I do believe if he chose the safest road, he could've pulled off a Finsbury Park kind of thing, especially after the whole injection of new fans Oasis got after Supersonic Who’s talking about WBTM and Noel’s “experimental” phase” ? Liam sold out Finsbury Park in 2017 I think after releasing his first solo album . Noel’s first two albums were pretty safe, could be oasis albums. His setlist in 2011 looked like this, also pretty safe: 8/9 oasis songs, 10/11 solo songs Supersonic was released in 2016, year earlier than WBTM. Why didn’t he announce a big gig after that if it’s so easy? Anyway I don’t want to shit on Noel’s accomplishments. My point was that being Gallagher from Oasis and singing Oasis songs isn’t enough for selling out big venues, you have to work hard for it Mate what I was trying to say is that the first album was HUGE and the second did well, he was playing big arenas and headlining festivals, he could've gone further probably if he wanted So I believe if he carried on that path, especially after Supersonic (Liam's solo career started after that) which gave a big push to the Oasis caravan, he could've been the big thing Liam is now He headed into another direction and I don't think he'd feel right being the frontman in such places I'm not taking away from what Liam did, of course the Gallagher's name it's not enough It's a big push to be fair, but you gotta do things right and he did absolutely everything right to get to where he is now |
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Post by GlastoEls on Oct 10, 2021 5:04:54 GMT -5
They’re both doing brilliantly on the paths they’ve chosen and isn’t that good for us punters!
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Post by defmaybe00 on Oct 10, 2021 6:51:41 GMT -5
They’re both doing brilliantly on the paths they’ve chosen and isn’t that good for us punters! Oh absolutely, and there's place for both |
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Post by megyesitomate on Oct 10, 2021 6:55:48 GMT -5
I would love Noel to sing The Girl With The X ray eyes it's crazy how this song hasn't been sung live yet ? a total transitivity when i believe it's one of this greatest tunes since going solo sounds like a James Bond Theme Song ! Scenes when Noel joins Liam on stage at Knebworth just to play The Girl With X-ray Eyes and then leaves. |
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Post by tomlivesforever on Oct 10, 2021 7:07:29 GMT -5
Who’s talking about WBTM and Noel’s “experimental” phase” ? Liam sold out Finsbury Park in 2017 I think after releasing his first solo album . Noel’s first two albums were pretty safe, could be oasis albums. His setlist in 2011 looked like this, also pretty safe: 8/9 oasis songs, 10/11 solo songs Supersonic was released in 2016, year earlier than WBTM. Why didn’t he announce a big gig after that if it’s so easy? Anyway I don’t want to shit on Noel’s accomplishments. My point was that being Gallagher from Oasis and singing Oasis songs isn’t enough for selling out big venues, you have to work hard for it Mate what I was trying to say is that the first album was HUGE and the second did well, he was playing big arenas and headlining festivals, he could've gone further probably if he wanted So I believe if he carried on that path, especially after Supersonic (Liam's solo career started after that) which gave a big push to the Oasis caravan, he could've been the big thing Liam is now He headed into another direction and I don't think he'd feel right being the frontman in such places I'm not taking away from what Liam did, of course the Gallagher's name it's not enough It's a big push to be fair, but you gotta do things right and he did absolutely everything right to get to where he is now Liam doing huge gigs doesn’t in any way diminish Noel’s work or what he’s done however as a big Oasis fan I have never had any desire to see Noel perform the majority of Oasis songs. A lot of them he hasn’t done himself or has approached in a different way which is tacit acceptance of Liam’s importance as the singer and front man. That quite a few of those songs only really work through him. |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Oct 10, 2021 7:14:29 GMT -5
Mate what I was trying to say is that the first album was HUGE and the second did well, he was playing big arenas and headlining festivals, he could've gone further probably if he wanted So I believe if he carried on that path, especially after Supersonic (Liam's solo career started after that) which gave a big push to the Oasis caravan, he could've been the big thing Liam is now He headed into another direction and I don't think he'd feel right being the frontman in such places I'm not taking away from what Liam did, of course the Gallagher's name it's not enough It's a big push to be fair, but you gotta do things right and he did absolutely everything right to get to where he is now Liam doing huge gigs doesn’t in any way diminish Noel’s work or what he’s done however as a big Oasis fan I have never had any desire to see Noel perform the majority of Oasis songs. A lot of them he hasn’t done himself or has approached in a different way which is tacit acceptance of Liam’s importance as the singer and front man. That quite a few of those songs only really work through him. No denying in that, I love a lot of Noel's version but I understand why people who got into Oasis would want to hear those songs in their original form, and that would be obviously through Liam's voice |
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Post by darmin on Oct 10, 2021 8:28:36 GMT -5
Who’s talking about WBTM and Noel’s “experimental” phase” ? Liam sold out Finsbury Park in 2017 I think after releasing his first solo album . Noel’s first two albums were pretty safe, could be oasis albums. His setlist in 2011 looked like this, also pretty safe: 8/9 oasis songs, 10/11 solo songs Supersonic was released in 2016, year earlier than WBTM. Why didn’t he announce a big gig after that if it’s so easy? Anyway I don’t want to shit on Noel’s accomplishments. My point was that being Gallagher from Oasis and singing Oasis songs isn’t enough for selling out big venues, you have to work hard for it Mate what I was trying to say is that the first album was HUGE and the second did well, he was playing big arenas and headlining festivals, he could've gone further probably if he wanted So I believe if he carried on that path, especially after Supersonic (Liam's solo career started after that) which gave a big push to the Oasis caravan, he could've been the big thing Liam is now He headed into another direction and I don't think he'd feel right being the frontman in such places I'm not taking away from what Liam did, of course the Gallagher's name it's not enough It's a big push to be fair, but you gotta do things right and he did absolutely everything right to get to where he is now im not sure that I get you. Did you mean that only after the Supersonic doc release it became possible for Gallaghers to sell out big venues? Noel started his solo career 2 years after the oasis split and he used it to his advantage, all that drama, the press conference, extra publicity, a lot of goodwill for him. It was still fresh, no need for documentaries |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Oct 10, 2021 8:31:24 GMT -5
It’s different. One is not more challenging than the other. I can attest, it’s very difficult to regain full health and life (as in vitality) the way he has done - I don’t care who your name is. I have so much respect. Agreed, Beadys Here, it’s not easy for anyone to rise out of … well, whatever it was because I don’t really know the extent of it in Liam’s case. Just glad he seems in a much better place now. And I don’t want to make light of his struggles, just to say they aren’t unique in the entertainment world ... or any world. You’ve gone through them, I’ve gone through them and so have a pretty large slew of rock stars and movie stars who have struggled with depression, addiction, illness or just a sudden reversal of fortune and come out the other side stronger. It’s cool to see it, inspiring even (and I don’t discount the degree to which Liam inspires you or others to keep at it – and kudos to him for every person he helps hang on even unwittingly). But for all of that, it’s still not the same thing as musical history. He’s not creating something new out of nothing. He’s returning to what was. (Not suggesting that isn't moving. But in 50 years from now, it won't be seen in the same light as Oasis rising to the top in the 90s.) This is an excellent post. Quoting because it deserves recognition. |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Oct 10, 2021 8:33:19 GMT -5
Mate what I was trying to say is that the first album was HUGE and the second did well, he was playing big arenas and headlining festivals, he could've gone further probably if he wanted So I believe if he carried on that path, especially after Supersonic (Liam's solo career started after that) which gave a big push to the Oasis caravan, he could've been the big thing Liam is now He headed into another direction and I don't think he'd feel right being the frontman in such places I'm not taking away from what Liam did, of course the Gallagher's name it's not enough It's a big push to be fair, but you gotta do things right and he did absolutely everything right to get to where he is now im not sure that I get you. Did you mean that opportunity to sell out big venues for Gallaghers appeared only after Supersonic doc? Noel started his solo career 2 years after the oasis split and he used it to his advantage, all that drama, the press conference, extra publicity, a lot of goodwill for him. It was still fresh, no need for documentaries No, I'm saying Noel was in that position and after Supersonic would've been the perfect time to give it another push cause the hype was there I'm saying that time was a sliding door for both, and they took different directions which led to what we have today Noel might have not done Finsbury Park, but he was HUGE in the NGHFB/CY era Basically, the Oasis and Gallagher name in itself is a big help, then yes of course you gotta do things right to capitalise on it, as Noel did when NGHFB started with arenas and Oasis-like sales, as Liam is doing these days with massive gigs |
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Post by darmin on Oct 10, 2021 9:20:05 GMT -5
im not sure that I get you. Did you mean that opportunity to sell out big venues for Gallaghers appeared only after Supersonic doc? Noel started his solo career 2 years after the oasis split and he used it to his advantage, all that drama, the press conference, extra publicity, a lot of goodwill for him. It was still fresh, no need for documentaries No, I'm saying Noel was in that position and after Supersonic would've been the perfect time to give it another push cause the hype was there I'm saying that time was a sliding door for both, and they took different directions which led to what we have today Noel might have not done Finsbury Park, but he was HUGE in the NGHFB/CY era Basically, the Oasis and Gallagher name in itself is a big help, then yes of course you gotta do things right to capitalise on it, as Noel did when NGHFB started with arenas and Oasis-like sales, as Liam is doing these days with massive gigs I think we can’t compare album sales in 2011 and nowadays situation but no point in arguing any further I guess |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Oct 10, 2021 9:50:21 GMT -5
No, I'm saying Noel was in that position and after Supersonic would've been the perfect time to give it another push cause the hype was there I'm saying that time was a sliding door for both, and they took different directions which led to what we have today Noel might have not done Finsbury Park, but he was HUGE in the NGHFB/CY era Basically, the Oasis and Gallagher name in itself is a big help, then yes of course you gotta do things right to capitalise on it, as Noel did when NGHFB started with arenas and Oasis-like sales, as Liam is doing these days with massive gigs I think we can’t compare album sales in 2011 and nowadays situation but no point in arguing any further I guess Of course you can't, in fact I am not doing it? |
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Post by walterglass on Oct 10, 2021 11:14:15 GMT -5
This thread is in danger of hitting the skids.
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. Good shout on Rod Stewart, the Faces were class.
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