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Post by Diamond in The Dark on Sept 21, 2021 4:14:34 GMT -5
What I love about Knebworth:
-The guitars are powerful, there is a lot of energy, and Liam's voice has the highest range ever and his tone is phenomenal.
-For me Knebworth is really the vocal, professional and commercial peak of Oasis.
What disappoints me about it?
The crowd isn't all that wild. There is a lot more movement in the Maine Road crowd, at g mex, at Wembley and even in Liam's solo concerts.
If I had to choose Oasis' "perfect concert" from the 90's, I'd choose Knebworth. I am really happy that it has finally been published. For me Knebworth 1996 and Wembley 2000 represent 2 cornerstones of Oasis' live career despite being very different from each other.
On the Audio CDs I would have inserted "Champagne Supernova" from the first night, and "My Big Mouth" from the second night. I think they are more successful versions than the choices made.
I am very concerned that in the documentary, the whole concert is ruined by the comments of Noel and Bonehead.
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Post by mimmihopps on Sept 21, 2021 5:53:24 GMT -5
I can't say about the documentary as I'm yet to watching it in the cinema coming Sunday.
I'm looking forward to it.
Documentary and 2 gigs are different things. I'm sure I will enjoy both of them.
It's not that we'll get the gigs with the comments by Noel and Bonehead, but documentary, so you don't need to concern about it.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Sept 21, 2021 6:41:10 GMT -5
History.
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Post by Wolf on Sept 21, 2021 7:02:55 GMT -5
I agree, the crowd might have been better at Maine Road, but performance wise, this was the best the band ever were.
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Post by tiger40 on Sept 21, 2021 13:03:00 GMT -5
I love the Knebworth gigs but I haven't listened to them for a few months. I don't think that they're Oasis's best ever gigs though but in terms of history then yes, they will always be remembered the most. I'm not talking about the hard core fans but more amongst the casual fans.
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Post by jezza2 on Sept 21, 2021 13:12:16 GMT -5
I love the Knebworth gigs but I haven't listened to them for a few months. I don't think that they're Oasis's best ever gigs though but in terms of history then yes, they will always be remembered the most. I'm not talking about the hard core fans but more amongst the casual fans. I feel like people are missing the point with the Knebworth doc. It's intended for casual or people who know of, but have never given Oasis a shot. To hardcore fans, Knebworth isn't the best show (isn't even the best show of the August dates according to some), but it's their biggest gig and the ones fans will mostly remember. Maine Road isn't getting a movie or release (hello, There and Then). None of the 1997 will ever come to light (sorry GMEX). For someone who's only been a fan since 2020, me, this doc is going to be special and I can't wait. |
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Post by tiger40 on Sept 21, 2021 13:21:11 GMT -5
I love the Knebworth gigs but I haven't listened to them for a few months. I don't think that they're Oasis's best ever gigs though but in terms of history then yes, they will always be remembered the most. I'm not talking about the hard core fans but more amongst the casual fans. I feel like people are missing the point with the Knebworth doc. It's intended for casual or people who know of, but have never given Oasis a shot. To hardcore fans, Knebworth isn't the best show (isn't even the best show of the August dates according to some), but it's their biggest gig and the ones fans will mostly remember. Maine Road isn't getting a movie or release (hello, There and Then). None of the 1997 will ever come to light (sorry GMEX). For someone who's only been a fan since 2020, me, this doc is going to be special and I can't wait. I agree with you that people are missing the point about the Knebworth documentary. It is attended for casual fans etc and I too am looking forward to the release. And, I think that the biggest gigs by any artists are the ones which are the ones fans will mostly remember. |
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Post by girllikeabomb on Sept 21, 2021 14:29:25 GMT -5
I love the Knebworth gigs but I haven't listened to them for a few months. I don't think that they're Oasis's best ever gigs though but in terms of history then yes, they will always be remembered the most. I'm not talking about the hard core fans but more amongst the casual fans. I feel like people are missing the point with the Knebworth doc. It's intended for casual or people who know of, but have never given Oasis a shot. To hardcore fans, Knebworth isn't the best show (isn't even the best show of the August dates according to some), but it's their biggest gig and the ones fans will mostly remember. Maine Road isn't getting a movie or release (hello, There and Then). None of the 1997 will ever come to light (sorry GMEX). For someone who's only been a fan since 2020, me, this doc is going to be special and I can't wait. Quite likely plenty of hardcore fans will adore it far more than you'd imagine reading here right now -- good to remember no one commenting here has seen it. Also fun to imagine if they had just released the audio for the 25th and no visuals at all ... all the people who would be saying, but where is the footage, how could they not do anything with it when we know they have it? So it goes in the fan world. The grass is always greener on the other side of the release ... |
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Post by megyesitomate on Sept 21, 2021 15:03:28 GMT -5
After listening to the recently released version of Champagne Supernova, I'm a bit worried about how much I'll enjoy the film as Liam sounds pretty shit and the band doesn't nail the song either. But I know I'll be in absolute awe during the whole thing and the fact that My Big Mouth sounds really good from Knebworth sort of conforts me that the rest of the gig will be excellent as well. If only Maine Road was filmed in such quality...
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Post by mattcox048 on Sept 22, 2021 3:01:29 GMT -5
Great gig, slightly let down by the fact that Liam is clearly very drunk, and it affects his performance significantly.
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Post by andymorris on Sept 22, 2021 3:22:51 GMT -5
Smaller gigs are always better anyway. How can you be excited when you're 3km away from the stage. It's insane when you think about it. I never really liked festivals because of that.
I far more enjoyed smaller Oasis or other bands gigs than festival-type gigs.
Watching Oasis in a 1500 capacity venue was something. Went to Finsbury in 2002 but it's different, it's more en experience with friends than a music experience.
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Post by Diamond in The Dark on Sept 22, 2021 5:03:40 GMT -5
For me, Liam's vocal performance in Knebworth and in general those of the summer of 1996 are far superior to those of the spring of the same year. His voice in Knebworth was indeed sparkling!
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Post by beentherenow on Sept 22, 2021 5:47:05 GMT -5
Quite honestly don’t quite get the hype other than the fact they were the biggest in terms of attendance,
Best Band Performance? No
Best Vocal Performance? No
Best Setlist? No
Best Crowd? No
Then again I’m in the minority who think the ultimate Oasis gig is Live By The Sea
I’m in a great mood today FYI
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Post by oasiscam29 on Sept 22, 2021 9:22:24 GMT -5
Maine Road 2nd night is the king for me Liams vocals are scary Incredible will always be my fav gig but cant wait to sit down enjoy some beers and finally watch the knebworth gigs uncut
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Post by Bonehead's Barber on Sept 22, 2021 10:13:57 GMT -5
Liam doesn't sound great. He does at Maine Road, but not at Knebworth
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Post by DrSnowbody on Sept 22, 2021 15:20:59 GMT -5
Finally a good topic to talk about.
Well, Knebworth, here we go.
Both nights are certainly not the best of Oasis in terms of performance, the concerts that I consider the best in that regard, Earls Court '95, Maine Road '96, for example. However, it has several positive things like the ones you mention, it also has what for me are possibly the best live versions of Morning Glory, Slide Away, Whatever, My Big Mouth, It's Gettin 'Better (Man !!) and Live Forever.
I also consider that in the album there should have been changes in the choice of songs, a while ago in another thread I commented on this but now after evaluating again I would say the following.
Columbia (Change for the second night)
Acquiesce (Ok)
Supersonic (Ok)
Hello (Ok)
Some Might Say (Ok)
Roll with It (Ok)
Slide Away (Perfect)
Morning Glory (Either night is fine for me)
Round Are Way (This is hard, they chose the first night but I'm not sure, instrumentally it's much better but Liam sings horrible on this one, he does better on the second night)
Cigarettes & Alcohol (Ok, but I prefer the second night on this one)
Whatever (Ok)
Cast No Shadow (Ok)
Wonderwall (Ok)
The Masterplan (Ok)
Don't Look Back in Anger (Ok)
My Big Mouth (Ok)
It's Gettin' Better (Man !!) (Perfect)
Live Forever (Perfect)
Champagne Supernova (Change for the first night)
I Am the Walrus (I don't care)
Either way we will have both nights on video so surely someone will convert it to audio format and everyone could choose their favorite versions of each night.
In the end, it's wonderful to finally have a live album of something from the (WtS) MG? tour, I would have still great to my taste a best of the tour or the best of Loch Lomond, Knebworth and Cork, but Knebworth is the most iconic and I think it's great that we can have something like this.
In hindsight I hope it doesn't stay here, I always thought the best side of Oasis was in their live shows, so one day I hope we have something like this about the Be Here Now tour or other memorable concerts.
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Post by DrSnowbody on Sept 22, 2021 15:25:31 GMT -5
Great gig, slightly let down by the fact that Liam is clearly very drunk, and it affects his performance significantly. Yes, this is the problem, much cigarettes, much alcohol, much drugs. |
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Post by DrSnowbody on Sept 22, 2021 15:32:22 GMT -5
Quite honestly don’t quite get the hype other than the fact they were the biggest in terms of attendance, Best Band Performance? No Best Vocal Performance? No Best Setlist? No Best Crowd? No Then again I’m in the minority who think the ultimate Oasis gig is Live By The Sea I’m in a great mood today FYI Best setlist? For me, in 1996, yes. Only missed Rock 'n' Roll Star. |
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Post by Flashbax on Sept 22, 2021 16:11:34 GMT -5
Wonderwall at Knebworth is much better than Earls Court or Maine Road.
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Post by walterglass on Sept 22, 2021 16:52:28 GMT -5
I don’t understand any negativity prior to full release.
Afterwards, my lugs will be fully open. Right now, though, I’m like “it’s Oasis Xmas, smile a little” x
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Post by DrSnowbody on Sept 22, 2021 17:01:25 GMT -5
Wonderwall at Knebworth is much better than Earls Court or Maine Road. Cork is f****' amazing. |
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Post by powerage09 on Sept 22, 2021 17:42:39 GMT -5
Anything that involves Noel Gallagher talking about Oasis, I'm absolutely there. He's made for things like this.
I'll be at the cinema tomorrow, really looking forward too it. It'll be immense to see the spectacle of the Knebworth events on the big screen.
It's a real shame they didn't play Rock n Roll Star at either of the the nights though, bordering on criminal IMO but I'm sure after 25 years I'll get over it.
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Post by madferitusa2025 on Sept 22, 2021 21:11:09 GMT -5
I'll be there Thursday with my mate. Big leather chairs, Oasis and drinks. What's not to love??
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2021 11:39:27 GMT -5
I never saw Oasis, so I guess this was the next best thing and I really enjoyed it. It sounded great in the cinema, Liam sounds amazing (Slide Away  ), and I Am The Walrus looks beautiful. The fan commentary wasn't too overbearing like I feared. Everyone looked so happy. I too want to be in a field, drunk, with friends, listening to Oasis. |
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Post by rollagher on Sept 23, 2021 14:59:42 GMT -5
Just coming Back from Cinema! A brilliant movie for me! If I wasn't I a Fan before I surely would be one after! It will polish their legacy Just more! I remember that seeing Noel Play the guitar was the reason for me to learn to Play it and hearing Noel's Song was the reason for me to write Songs too. This is where it brought me:
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), and I Am The Walrus looks beautiful. 
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