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Post by jorgendif on Jul 9, 2022 8:16:26 GMT -5
Not one word still from Liam. Not good at all. Why Liam?
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Post by blkc on Jul 9, 2022 8:24:50 GMT -5
Was any member here there? Wondering if this is accurate:
Why would it be inaccurate ? It's a french guy from the audience, he has no reason at all to lie... ^^ All french comments I've read are the same, it was clearly chaotic from the start, he seemed in a bad mood, stopped songs etc. Can't say if there was or not technical issue, but saw nothing to confirm that. And leaving without a word for the audience after that just was a really bad move. Obviously people get mad, with reason. |
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Post by Sadie on Jul 9, 2022 10:48:16 GMT -5
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Post by tiger40 on Jul 9, 2022 13:18:42 GMT -5
Well, if that's the case then it's understandable why Liam couldn't carry on last night.
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Post by lg on Jul 9, 2022 14:04:05 GMT -5
It's not understandable, it's the same story once again
Stop defending him, his behaviour is highly unprofessional in this case
Wondering why this always happens outside UK
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Post by darmin on Jul 9, 2022 14:15:45 GMT -5
It's not understandable, it's the same story once again Stop defending him, his behaviour is highly unprofessional in this case Wondering why this always happens outside UK It’s the same story coz it’s health issues thats common for singers and he had voice issues literally for decades. The way how they changed his voice - did he made up it too? Your fave also liked to tell that his laryngitis is fake and then admitted that he lied. As usual |
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Post by megyesitomate on Jul 9, 2022 14:58:19 GMT -5
It's not understandable, it's the same story once again Stop defending him, his behaviour is highly unprofessional in this case Wondering why this always happens outside UK Doesn't he play more shows abroad than in the UK? <script src="moz-extension://30877546-48eb-4155-b1a7-8c7aa52ae436/js/app.js" type="text/javascript"></script> |
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Post by anothergreatdivide on Jul 9, 2022 16:38:10 GMT -5
Fingers crossed he's fine by the 21st
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Post by Nyron Nosworthy on Jul 9, 2022 17:18:53 GMT -5
It's not understandable, it's the same story once again Stop defending him, his behaviour is highly unprofessional in this case Wondering why this always happens outside UK You say this always happens - how often and when was the last time? In the 90s yes, but that was 25+ years ago. I agree its poor form to walk off and not say 'Really sorry, can't carry on because of my throat' but to say it always happens and is the same story once again simply isn't true. |
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Post by Lustforlife on Jul 9, 2022 22:53:18 GMT -5
It's not understandable, it's the same story once again Stop defending him, his behaviour is highly unprofessional in this case Wondering why this always happens outside UK You say this always happens - how often and when was the last time? In the 90s yes, but that was 25+ years ago. I agree its poor form to walk off and not say 'Really sorry, can't carry on because of my throat' but to say it always happens and is the same story once again simply isn't true. Well that last time I can remember off the top of my head was probably 2017? Chicago lollapalooza |
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Post by Lustforlife on Jul 10, 2022 1:34:37 GMT -5
Guess he did it again in 2018? but he had his reasons. (No sarcasm applied)
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Post by Rolo on Jul 10, 2022 1:46:04 GMT -5
It's not understandable, it's the same story once again Stop defending him, his behaviour is highly unprofessional in this case Wondering why this always happens outside UK You say this always happens - how often and when was the last time? In the 90s yes, but that was 25+ years ago. I agree its poor form to walk off and not say 'Really sorry, can't carry on because of my throat' but to say it always happens and is the same story once again simply isn't true. Yep. Obviously in an ideal world it would never happen but it only happens usually once, maybe twice on a world tour. At his age, with the amount of dates he has to do, I'd say that's probably quite normal. Especially the way Liam sings. Do agree he needs to learn to handle it better though, shouldn't just walk off without saying a word. |
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Post by darmin on Jul 10, 2022 1:49:01 GMT -5
His festival gig in Finland was canceled too. Not good for those who wanted to see him but wise decision considering that he needs time to heal and rest
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Post by rnrs001 on Jul 10, 2022 9:41:21 GMT -5
At his age, with the amount of dates he has to do, I'd say that's probably quite normal. Especially the way Liam sings. He's done 10 shows. I wouldn't say it's normal to lose your voice after about 10 shows. Really if anything, it shows Liam, even today, just can't get his shit sorted. |
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Post by Derrick on Jul 10, 2022 11:11:01 GMT -5
It's not understandable, it's the same story once again Stop defending him, his behaviour is highly unprofessional in this case Wondering why this always happens outside UK It’s the same story coz it’s health issues thats common for singers and he had voice issues literally for decades. The way how they changed his voice - did he made up it too? Your fave also liked to tell that his laryngitis is fake and then admitted that he lied. As usual Frankly him abruptly leaving the stage like that looked like a tantrum : if he had voice problems he could have told it to the crowd, "Sorry, the voice is gone" like he did in 2002 instead of storming off without any explanation. He showed no consideration for the audience, which isn't good as the Gallaghers already have a strong reputation in France of being arrogant pricks. Also, Liam walked out of Lollapalooza in 2017 as it's been reminded here; on the previous tour he also canceled at the eleventh hour an appearance at a Romanian festival (IIRC), again with no real explanation. Makes him look like he doesn't give much importance to those European/US festival headline slots his management got him, which is a shame for his career. |
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Post by girllikeabomb on Jul 10, 2022 11:59:56 GMT -5
At his age, with the amount of dates he has to do, I'd say that's probably quite normal. Especially the way Liam sings. He's done 10 shows. I wouldn't say it's normal to lose your voice after about 10 shows. Really if anything, it shows Liam, even today, just can't get his shit sorted.
It’s not his age (obviously lots of singers older than he is perform long tours and long sets without issues, no question). But he has an autoimmune disease that can flare up suddenly, he needs two hip replacements and is in chronic pain, and it’s no secret that he is and has always been a volatile, high-living, edgy person, so there will forever be a bit of chaos injected into whatever he does no matter his age. Either you dig that or you don't (and I definitely feel for the fans and venues who got screwed, not making light of that) but it's part of the Liam deal. Hope he’s doing OK, honestly. He looked like more than his throat was bothering him in France.
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Post by darmin on Jul 10, 2022 13:35:53 GMT -5
It’s the same story coz it’s health issues thats common for singers and he had voice issues literally for decades. The way how they changed his voice - did he made up it too? Your fave also liked to tell that his laryngitis is fake and then admitted that he lied. As usual Frankly him abruptly leaving the stage like that looked like a tantrum : if he had voice problems he could have told it to the crowd, "Sorry, the voice is gone" like he did in 2002 instead of storming off without any explanation. He showed no consideration for the audience, which isn't good as the Gallaghers already have a strong reputation in France of being arrogant pricks. Also, Liam walked out of Lollapalooza in 2017 as it's been reminded here; on the previous tour he also canceled at the eleventh hour an appearance at a Romanian festival (IIRC), again with no real explanation. Makes him look like he doesn't give much importance to those European/US festival headline slots his management got him, which is a shame for his career. Him leaving w/o explanation isn’t good but doesn’t mean that he doesn’t have voice issues. Sadly he leaves like that every time he can’t continue the gig(I think he’s too anxious to face angry/disappointed fans, but that’s me being armchair psychologist). Only one time Debbie stopped him and returned to the mic to explain why he’s leaving. He gave explanations about the Romanian festival and Chicago Lollapalooza. It’s your right not to believe them I guess, but he did Several days ago he said he is bit ill. Idk why for you it’s improbable that 50 yo w chronic laryngitis, hashimoto had voice issues while being on tour. I talked w people who has hashimoto, they said it’s definitely affect your voice, it’s completely unpredictable, sometimes you just wake up and your voice is fucked up for no visible reason. Sam Fender who’s like 30 younger than him canceled the rest of his 2020 tour bc of his voice issues. Lana Del Rey once canceled on me when she lost her voice. A lot of other examples too. That happens a lot. And not only bc of voice issues. Go tell Shawn Mendes that he’s faking his mental health issues to postpone his tour if you like to say about other people that their health issues are fake. |
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Post by darmin on Jul 10, 2022 14:01:06 GMT -5
At his age, with the amount of dates he has to do, I'd say that's probably quite normal. Especially the way Liam sings. He's done 10 shows. I wouldn't say it's normal to lose your voice after about 10 shows. Really if anything, it shows Liam, even today, just can't get his shit sorted. Are you Liams doctor by chance to know what’s normal what not normal to him? |
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Post by tcole on Jul 11, 2022 6:30:07 GMT -5
Completely understandable if he has to stop a gig due to voice problems, as continuing could end up causing serious damage. But to just walk off and not say a single word to your fans is absolutely terrible behavior. Nothing excuses that carry on.
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Post by darmin on Jul 11, 2022 10:32:24 GMT -5
Well bootleg of the gig was uploaded and it’s apparent that he wasn’t lying about his laryngitis, he was clearly struggling. My throat hurts just from listening to this. Maybe next time you all will wait a little bit before accusing him of lying, throwing tantrums, whatever else. Haha jk of course you will do it again
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Post by Derrick on Jul 11, 2022 11:22:22 GMT -5
Frankly him abruptly leaving the stage like that looked like a tantrum : if he had voice problems he could have told it to the crowd, "Sorry, the voice is gone" like he did in 2002 instead of storming off without any explanation. He showed no consideration for the audience, which isn't good as the Gallaghers already have a strong reputation in France of being arrogant pricks. Also, Liam walked out of Lollapalooza in 2017 as it's been reminded here; on the previous tour he also canceled at the eleventh hour an appearance at a Romanian festival (IIRC), again with no real explanation. Makes him look like he doesn't give much importance to those European/US festival headline slots his management got him, which is a shame for his career. Him leaving w/o explanation isn’t good but doesn’t mean that he doesn’t have voice issues. Sadly he leaves like that every time he can’t continue the gig(I think he’s too anxious to face angry/disappointed fans, but that’s me being armchair psychologist). Only one time Debbie stopped him and returned to the mic to explain why he’s leaving. He gave explanations about the Romanian festival and Chicago Lollapalooza. It’s your right not to believe them I guess, but he did Several days ago he said he is bit ill. Idk why for you it’s improbable that 50 yo w chronic laryngitis, hashimoto had voice issues while being on tour. I talked w people who has hashimoto, they said it’s definitely affect your voice, it’s completely unpredictable, sometimes you just wake up and your voice is fucked up for no visible reason. Sam Fender who’s like 30 younger than him canceled the rest of his 2020 tour bc of his voice issues. Lana Del Rey once canceled on me when she lost her voice. A lot of other examples too. That happens a lot. And not only bc of voice issues. Go tell Shawn Mendes that he’s faking his mental health issues to postpone his tour if you like to say about other people that their health issues are fake. I was referring mainly to what Liam leaving the stage mid-song without a word looks like, not to whether the laryngitis is real or fake. I'm French, I didn't attend the Beauregard gig but the comments I read online about this are absolutely disastrous : almost no-one to defend him, on the contrary everybody says he's had this reputation for years (they may have him mixed up with Noel who'd left the band in 2000 by the time Oasis performed in Paris in June, & it's also Noel who left the band at Rock En Seine in 2009, but so many people even in the UK still don't know which one's Liam & which one's Noel), & that the Beauregard festival organisers were complete fools to book him, they had it coming, followed by the obligatory comments about Oasis being a talentless pastiche of the Beatles. So he should be very careful about this terrible reputation he has because it can damage his career outside the UK, & if he cannot finish a gig because of voice issues, let the crowd know what it's all about & apologize. Future festival organisers may be cautious about putting him on the bill next time, & may not take the risk of giving him a headline slot, which is too bad as festivals are a great exposure to a younger audience who might not know him or Oasis. I remember seeing Beady Eye play the Solidays festival in Paris mid-afternoon to a quite small crowd (other bands playing at the same time had a much bigger attendance), I wouldn't like solo Liam to revert to this for whatever reason, nor would I like him to be a UK-only successful singer. |
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Post by welshylad on Jul 11, 2022 12:04:52 GMT -5
Well bootleg of the gig was uploaded and it’s apparent that he wasn’t lying about his laryngitis, he was clearly struggling. My throat hurts just from listening to this. Maybe next time you all will wait a little bit before accusing him of lying, throwing tantrums, whatever else. Haha jk of course you will do it again Really? He sounds alright to me, alot better than he did the 2nd night in Knebworth |
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Post by chamu on Jul 11, 2022 14:40:22 GMT -5
Well bootleg of the gig was uploaded and it’s apparent that he wasn’t lying about his laryngitis, he was clearly struggling. My throat hurts just from listening to this. Maybe next time you all will wait a little bit before accusing him of lying, throwing tantrums, whatever else. Haha jk of course you will do it again Really? He sounds alright to me, alot better than he did the 2nd night in Knebworth We really didn't Know What happened there, but, for instance, he sounded good/great on MG An he, whatever the problem is, should apologize to all the fans who attended to the gig in situ, not with a tweet |
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Post by girllikeabomb on Jul 11, 2022 16:34:58 GMT -5
I'm French, I didn't attend the Beauregard gig but the comments I read online about this are absolutely disastrous : almost no-one to defend him, on the contrary everybody says he's had this reputation for years (they may have him mixed up with Noel who'd left the band in 2000 by the time Oasis performed in Paris in June, & it's also Noel who left the band at Rock En Seine in 2009, but so many people even in the UK still don't know which one's Liam & which one's Noel), & that the Beauregard festival organisers were complete fools to book him, they had it coming, followed by the obligatory comments about Oasis being a talentless pastiche of the Beatles. So he should be very careful about this terrible reputation he has because it can damage his career outside the UK, & if he cannot finish a gig because of voice issues, let the crowd know what it's all about & apologize. Future festival organisers may be cautious about putting him on the bill next time, & may not take the risk of giving him a headline slot, which is too bad as festivals are a great exposure to a younger audience who might not know him or Oasis.
Agree, the stories of people who were actually there paint a somewhat different picture than just a singer with a sore throat (though that might have contributed to the rest). Nevertheless it seems apparent that whatever the problems were, he needed a bit of R&R before returning to the road.
It is what it is and it will be this way probably always because Liam is who Liam is. You pays your money and you takes your chances on the wheel of fortune. But yeah, his tour insurance bills won't be pretty.
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Post by garylineker on Jul 11, 2022 18:26:01 GMT -5
I have to say at the festival the other day (can't remember the name) he looked and sounded drunk. Now, if this was gig 76 of a world tour and he'd been as professional as he had in 2017 i'd give it the benefit of the doubt.
But he can't be treating these gigs as a chance to get shitfaced when people that never usually get chance to see him are turning up in their thousands.
Not saying that is a direct cause of his vocal troubles for this but don't tell me for a second that the way he prepared for Etihad and Knebworth will have been the same he'd have prepared for these european festivals.
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