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Post by darmin on Jul 11, 2022 18:45:15 GMT -5
Well bootleg of the gig was uploaded and it’s apparent that he wasn’t lying about his laryngitis, he was clearly struggling. My throat hurts just from listening to this. Maybe next time you all will wait a little bit before accusing him of lying, throwing tantrums, whatever else. Haha jk of course you will do it again Really? He sounds alright to me, alot better than he did the 2nd night in Knebworth I haven’t listen to the bootleg of 2nd night in Knebworth but listened to him live, his voice was clearly tired (but not sick), I noticed it from the first song tbh, I remember I was little worried how he’s gonna finish the gig until he sang Roll It Over, Roll it Over was good so I relaxed knowing that it’ll be fine. but I don’t think he sounded worse than this time, especially on slower songs. Anyway he struggled almost through the whole little set, for me it’s obvious, so people who said that he was completely fine were wrong |
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Post by darmin on Jul 11, 2022 18:50:45 GMT -5
I have to say at the festival the other day (can't remember the name) he looked and sounded drunk. Now, if this was gig 76 of a world tour and he'd been as professional as he had in 2017 i'd give it the benefit of the doubt. But he can't be treating these gigs as a chance to get shitfaced when people that never usually get chance to see him are turning up in their thousands. Not saying that is a direct cause of his vocal troubles for this but don't tell me for a second that the way he prepared for Etihad and Knebworth will have been the same he'd have prepared for these european festivals. He wasn’t drunk. I know how he sounds when he’s drunk, we all know, so nope |
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Post by darmin on Jul 11, 2022 19:09:32 GMT -5
Him leaving w/o explanation isn’t good but doesn’t mean that he doesn’t have voice issues. Sadly he leaves like that every time he can’t continue the gig(I think he’s too anxious to face angry/disappointed fans, but that’s me being armchair psychologist). Only one time Debbie stopped him and returned to the mic to explain why he’s leaving. He gave explanations about the Romanian festival and Chicago Lollapalooza. It’s your right not to believe them I guess, but he did Several days ago he said he is bit ill. Idk why for you it’s improbable that 50 yo w chronic laryngitis, hashimoto had voice issues while being on tour. I talked w people who has hashimoto, they said it’s definitely affect your voice, it’s completely unpredictable, sometimes you just wake up and your voice is fucked up for no visible reason. Sam Fender who’s like 30 younger than him canceled the rest of his 2020 tour bc of his voice issues. Lana Del Rey once canceled on me when she lost her voice. A lot of other examples too. That happens a lot. And not only bc of voice issues. Go tell Shawn Mendes that he’s faking his mental health issues to postpone his tour if you like to say about other people that their health issues are fake. I was referring mainly to what Liam leaving the stage mid-song without a word looks like, not to whether the laryngitis is real or fake. I'm French, I didn't attend the Beauregard gig but the comments I read online about this are absolutely disastrous : almost no-one to defend him, on the contrary everybody says he's had this reputation for years (they may have him mixed up with Noel who'd left the band in 2000 by the time Oasis performed in Paris in June, & it's also Noel who left the band at Rock En Seine in 2009, but so many people even in the UK still don't know which one's Liam & which one's Noel), & that the Beauregard festival organisers were complete fools to book him, they had it coming, followed by the obligatory comments about Oasis being a talentless pastiche of the Beatles. So he should be very careful about this terrible reputation he has because it can damage his career outside the UK, & if he cannot finish a gig because of voice issues, let the crowd know what it's all about & apologize. Future festival organisers may be cautious about putting him on the bill next time, & may not take the risk of giving him a headline slot, which is too bad as festivals are a great exposure to a younger audience who might not know him or Oasis. I remember seeing Beady Eye play the Solidays festival in Paris mid-afternoon to a quite small crowd (other bands playing at the same time had a much bigger attendance), I wouldn't like solo Liam to revert to this for whatever reason, nor would I like him to be a UK-only successful singer. I typed long answer to you and it wasn’t posted ughh. Shorter version I agree with you that he should’ve explained himself on the stage. Alas he he didn’t do it, and I’m afraid he’s not gonna do it in the future. Not because of arrogance (that arrogance is long gone) but because he’s very uncomfortable in the situations like this. The festival goers also were kinda over the top with their claims that he insulted the crowd. I thought he actually insulted the crowd with offensive words and gestures before I saw the video. I’m surprised that they didn’t invented stories of him being drunk and high like garylineker lol Yeah consequences can be bad for him. Oh well what’s done cannot be undone |
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Post by luckylady on Jul 11, 2022 20:35:39 GMT -5
I have to say at the festival the other day (can't remember the name) he looked and sounded drunk. Now, if this was gig 76 of a world tour and he'd been as professional as he had in 2017 i'd give it the benefit of the doubt. But he can't be treating these gigs as a chance to get shitfaced when people that never usually get chance to see him are turning up in their thousands. Not saying that is a direct cause of his vocal troubles for this but don't tell me for a second that the way he prepared for Etihad and Knebworth will have been the same he'd have prepared for these european festivals. He wasn’t drunk. I know how he sounds when he’s drunk, we all know, so nope If this isn’t drunk I don’t know what is  |
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Post by darmin on Jul 11, 2022 21:00:43 GMT -5
He wasn’t drunk. I know how he sounds when he’s drunk, we all know, so nope If this isn’t drunk I don’t know what is Hello first time poster It was another festival, I was talking about Bereaugard. He acted strange that day. I think it was day after that gig in the opera house for that billionaire guy (I remember someone from his band posted pics from that night and it was right before Dijon festival). most likely he didn’t sleep the night before the festival because of set in the opera house was late at night and it’s hard to sleep after the gig, plus he needed to travel from and maybe he took something to be able to perform +fatigue |
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Post by walterglass on Jul 11, 2022 21:45:21 GMT -5
He wasn’t drunk. I know how he sounds when he’s drunk, we all know, so nope If this isn’t drunk I don’t know what is Proper ropey. |
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Post by luckylady on Jul 11, 2022 21:47:04 GMT -5
If this isn’t drunk I don’t know what is Hello first time poster It was another festival, I was talking about Bereaugard. He acted strange that day. I think it was day after that gig in the opera house for that billionaire guy (I remember someone from his band posted pics from that night and it was right before Dijon festival). most likely he didn’t sleep the night before the festival because of set in the opera house was late at night and it’s hard to sleep after the gig, plus he needed to travel from and maybe he took something to be able to perform +fatigue Hello again! I agree with you that he wasn’t drunk at Bereaugard.He was extremely hungover from drinking all week. He also has a glass of liquor on stage at every show since Knebworth. He is an ALCOHOLIC. Did anyone consider he might be taking time off to evaluate his life..maybe Rehab….I love Liam but I also recognize when someone needs help coming from a family of alcoholics. |
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Post by darmin on Jul 11, 2022 22:08:51 GMT -5
Hello first time poster It was another festival, I was talking about Bereaugard. He acted strange that day. I think it was day after that gig in the opera house for that billionaire guy (I remember someone from his band posted pics from that night and it was right before Dijon festival). most likely he didn’t sleep the night before the festival because of set in the opera house was late at night and it’s hard to sleep after the gig, plus he needed to travel from and maybe he took something to be able to perform +fatigue Hello again! I agree with you that he wasn’t drunk at Bereaugard.He was extremely hungover from drinking all week. He also has a glass of liquor on stage at every show since Knebworth. He is an ALCOHOLIC. Did anyone consider he might be taking time off to evaluate his life..maybe Rehab….I love Liam but I also recognize when someone needs help coming from a family of alcoholics. You kinda late to discussion about alcoholism. Iirc the forum experts in everything (glad to see we have another one!) resolved that it’s not alcoholism, more like traditional British binge drinking |
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Post by girllikeabomb on Jul 11, 2022 22:27:46 GMT -5
Hello first time poster It was another festival, I was talking about Bereaugard. He acted strange that day. I think it was day after that gig in the opera house for that billionaire guy (I remember someone from his band posted pics from that night and it was right before Dijon festival). most likely he didn’t sleep the night before the festival because of set in the opera house was late at night and it’s hard to sleep after the gig, plus he needed to travel from and maybe he took something to be able to perform +fatigue Hello again! I agree with you that he wasn’t drunk at Bereaugard.He was extremely hungover from drinking all week. He also has a glass of liquor on stage at every show since Knebworth. He is an ALCOHOLIC. Did anyone consider he might be taking time off to evaluate his life..maybe Rehab….I love Liam but I also recognize when someone needs help coming from a family of alcoholics.
Welcome to the forum.
Y'know, if he truly needs rehab or even just a mental (or physical!) health break then fans will have his back and be supportive of him. But we don’t know the situation, and it's his private business really, unless he chooses to share it.
I’m sure you know that it’s not for anyone to tell someone else if they are or are not an alcoholic. That’s a decision you make yourself if and when you want to deal with it. On a forum, it's just speculation.
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Post by darmin on Jul 11, 2022 23:16:35 GMT -5
Hello first time poster It was another festival, I was talking about Bereaugard. He acted strange that day. I think it was day after that gig in the opera house for that billionaire guy (I remember someone from his band posted pics from that night and it was right before Dijon festival). most likely he didn’t sleep the night before the festival because of set in the opera house was late at night and it’s hard to sleep after the gig, plus he needed to travel from and maybe he took something to be able to perform +fatigueи Hello again! I agree with you that he wasn’t drunk at Bereaugard.He was extremely hungover from drinking all week. He also has a glass of liquor on stage at every show since Knebworth. He is an ALCOHOLIC. Did anyone consider he might be taking time off to evaluate his life..maybe Rehab….I love Liam but I also recognize when someone needs help coming from a family of alcoholics. Wait a minute., I just have realized. Is it you Noel? If so, dm me. I have few questions. Let me remind you tho that last time you were sued for this claim, be careful |
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Post by mancraider on Jul 12, 2022 0:38:35 GMT -5
Well I dunno if I would call him an alcoholic but its true he has seemed a bit out of sorts on occasion, since knebworth really. That time when he stayed on stage for ages and Debbie had to come on and lead him off stands out as a little strange. He could have found the Knebworth experience a bit overwhelming considering where he was a few years ago. Facing a double hip replacement. Taylor'sudden death. Plus he hasn't really stopped since 2017, even during lockdown he wrote an album and did the thames gig. And of course any number of other private issues. Its not outwith the bounds of possibility that he is struggling with his mental health atm and just needs a break.
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Post by mimmihopps on Jul 12, 2022 6:37:22 GMT -5
Hello first time poster It was another festival, I was talking about Bereaugard. He acted strange that day. I think it was day after that gig in the opera house for that billionaire guy (I remember someone from his band posted pics from that night and it was right before Dijon festival). most likely he didn’t sleep the night before the festival because of set in the opera house was late at night and it’s hard to sleep after the gig, plus he needed to travel from and maybe he took something to be able to perform +fatigue Hello again! I agree with you that he wasn’t drunk at Bereaugard.He was extremely hungover from drinking all week. He also has a glass of liquor on stage at every show since Knebworth. He is an ALCOHOLIC. Did anyone consider he might be taking time off to evaluate his life..maybe Rehab….I love Liam but I also recognize when someone needs help coming from a family of alcoholics. Unless you're Liam Gallagher yourself or Debbie or someone who is very close to him, you can't take such a hasty conclusion. I've seen more musicians who have liqure next to them on stage and I don't judge them as an alcoholics just because of that. |
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Post by Derrick on Jul 12, 2022 12:51:56 GMT -5
Well I dunno if I would call him an alcoholic but its true he has seemed a bit out of sorts on occasion, since knebworth really. That time when he stayed on stage for ages and Debbie had to come on and lead him off stands out as a little strange. Did this happen at Knebworth? First time I hear about this so I'm not sure what gig you're referring to. About his mental condition, I agree it might be a difficult to resume normal touring after those mega gigs at Knebworth/Etihad/Glasgow, everything will look paltry in comparison. Reminds me when Oasis went to the US after a hugely successful tour in Japan in '94 where they experienced superstardom for maybe the first time, the contrast in atmosphere almost broke the band. Touring the US after Loch Lomond & Knebworth in '96 was also a hard time for the band. Starting the tour with the biggest gigs may not have been the wisest decision in the long run, though it was very efficient to launch Liam's comeback. |
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Post by mancraider on Jul 12, 2022 13:23:18 GMT -5
Well I dunno if I would call him an alcoholic but its true he has seemed a bit out of sorts on occasion, since knebworth really. That time when he stayed on stage for ages and Debbie had to come on and lead him off stands out as a little strange. Did this happen at Knebworth? First time I hear about this so I'm not sure what gig you're referring to. About his mental condition, I agree it might be a difficult to resume normal touring after those mega gigs at Knebworth/Etihad/Glasgow, everything will look paltry in comparison. Reminds me when Oasis went to the US after a hugely successful tour in Japan in '94 where they experienced superstardom for maybe the first time, the contrast in atmosphere almost broke the band. Touring the US after Loch Lomond & Knebworth in '96 was also a hard time for the band. Starting the tour with the biggest gigs may not have been the wisest decision in the long run, though it was very efficient to launch Liam's comeback. no it was another festival. Possibly in France, I cant remember. A couple of weeks ago. Could have been something or nothing, just seemed a little strange thing to do. |
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Post by El Auténtico Dios on Jul 12, 2022 19:01:07 GMT -5
Emotion blocked out that little detail, but just remember the differences between night 1 and 2 at knebworth, this year. Well, I have my suspicions that good liam didn't rest for that second night  |
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Post by tomlivesforever on Jul 12, 2022 19:13:33 GMT -5
Emotion blocked out that little detail, but just remember the differences between night 1 and 2 at knebworth, this year. Well, I have my suspicions that good liam didn't rest for that second night Sounded fine to me. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2022 19:29:54 GMT -5
if you want predictable performances or 'technically perfect' singing go and see a musical. Or a U2 gig, or ed sheeran with his little guitar.
last time I checked Liam was a rock'n'roll star.
hasn't everyone turned up for work drunk or hungover a few times and had to go home early???
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Post by I Built The Moon on Jul 12, 2022 22:16:36 GMT -5
if you want predictable performances or 'technically perfect' singing go and see a musical. Or a U2 gig, or ed sheeran with his little guitar. last time I checked Liam was a rock'n'roll star. hasn't everyone turned up for work drunk or hungover a few times and had to go home early??? Terrible take. Most people a) don't do a job where thousands have paid a large chunk of money to see them perform and b) show a degree of accountability when they can't carry out what is expected. That's not to say he can't feel under the weather/hungover, and need to cut the odd gig short. But own up to it, and refund your fans. |
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Post by darmin on Jul 12, 2022 22:58:00 GMT -5
Emotion blocked out that little detail, but just remember the differences between night 1 and 2 at knebworth, this year. Well, I have my suspicions that good liam didn't rest for that second night It was expected that his voice will be a little bit tired after Etihad and Knebworth 1 night. Overall he sounded good. |
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Post by tomlivesforever on Jul 13, 2022 3:32:30 GMT -5
if you want predictable performances or 'technically perfect' singing go and see a musical. Or a U2 gig, or ed sheeran with his little guitar. last time I checked Liam was a rock'n'roll star. hasn't everyone turned up for work drunk or hungover a few times and had to go home early??? Terrible take. Most people a) don't do a job where thousands have paid a large chunk of money to see them perform and b) show a degree of accountability when they can't carry out what is expected. That's not to say he can't feel under the weather/hungover, and need to cut the odd gig short. But own up to it, and refund your fans. Has this been confirmed as the reason? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2022 9:29:56 GMT -5
if you want predictable performances or 'technically perfect' singing go and see a musical. Or a U2 gig, or ed sheeran with his little guitar. last time I checked Liam was a rock'n'roll star. hasn't everyone turned up for work drunk or hungover a few times and had to go home early??? Terrible take. Most people a) don't do a job where thousands have paid a large chunk of money to see them perform and b) show a degree of accountability when they can't carry out what is expected. That's not to say he can't feel under the weather/hungover, and need to cut the odd gig short. But own up to it, and refund your fans.
a) lots of people 'do jobs' that impact on others far more seriously than giving them a bit of entertainment, and still go in pissed/hungover
b) accountability? It's a rock'n'roll band, not an accountancy firm.
These views are basically what's wrong with music today.
all of the best gigs I've ever seen were ones where you didn't know what was going to happen. Not ones where everything is lip-synced to expensive backdrop projections, or the same platitudes are expounded night after night. Ones where literally anything could happen, and sometimes did.
These are 'gigs' not musical theatre, and that seems to confuse many people on this forum, which amazes me because it's an Oasis forum and I kind of thought that the 'rock'n'roll' aspects were the core attraction, along with many others of course.
I was at the drunk night at wembley btw. it was hilarious.
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Post by asyouwere on Jul 13, 2022 16:13:18 GMT -5
Setlist.fm states he quit after 6 songs, after several restarts of songs, because of health issues.
The quote: Set cut short due to health issues, Liam was diagnosed with laryngitis the next day
6 setlist.fm users were there
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Post by welshylad on Jul 13, 2022 17:17:34 GMT -5
Setlist.fm states he quit after 6 songs, after several restarts of songs, because of health issues. The quote: Set cut short due to health issues, Liam was diagnosed with laryngitis the next day 6 setlist.fm users were there 1. Fuckin' In The Bushes 2. Hello (stopped) 3. Hello 4. Rock 'n' Roll Star (stopped) 5. Rock 'n' Roll Star 6. Morning Glory 7. Wall Of Glass 8. Better Days 9. C'Mon You Know 10. Stand By Me (stopped) www.mediafire.com/file/gyq87clukt7tcwv/Liam_Gallagher_-_Festival_Beauregard_2022-07-08_L4E.rar/fileThanks to kurddt for taping and sharing. And also mimmihopps for the download link |
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Post by Mr. Bigglesworth on Jul 14, 2022 0:42:05 GMT -5
Well I dunno if I would call him an alcoholic but its true he has seemed a bit out of sorts on occasion, since knebworth really. That time when he stayed on stage for ages and Debbie had to come on and lead him off stands out as a little strange. Did this happen at Knebworth? First time I hear about this so I'm not sure what gig you're referring to. About his mental condition, I agree it might be a difficult to resume normal touring after those mega gigs at Knebworth/Etihad/Glasgow, everything will look paltry in comparison. Reminds me when Oasis went to the US after a hugely successful tour in Japan in '94 where they experienced superstardom for maybe the first time, the contrast in atmosphere almost broke the band. Touring the US after Loch Lomond & Knebworth in '96 was also a hard time for the band. Starting the tour with the biggest gigs may not have been the wisest decision in the long run, though it was very efficient to launch Liam's comeback. Wasn't it the drugs by members of the Brian Jonestown Massacre that nearly broke up the band on their first US tour?  |
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Post by garylineker on Jul 14, 2022 9:01:46 GMT -5
I was referring mainly to what Liam leaving the stage mid-song without a word looks like, not to whether the laryngitis is real or fake. I'm French, I didn't attend the Beauregard gig but the comments I read online about this are absolutely disastrous : almost no-one to defend him, on the contrary everybody says he's had this reputation for years (they may have him mixed up with Noel who'd left the band in 2000 by the time Oasis performed in Paris in June, & it's also Noel who left the band at Rock En Seine in 2009, but so many people even in the UK still don't know which one's Liam & which one's Noel), & that the Beauregard festival organisers were complete fools to book him, they had it coming, followed by the obligatory comments about Oasis being a talentless pastiche of the Beatles. So he should be very careful about this terrible reputation he has because it can damage his career outside the UK, & if he cannot finish a gig because of voice issues, let the crowd know what it's all about & apologize. Future festival organisers may be cautious about putting him on the bill next time, & may not take the risk of giving him a headline slot, which is too bad as festivals are a great exposure to a younger audience who might not know him or Oasis. I remember seeing Beady Eye play the Solidays festival in Paris mid-afternoon to a quite small crowd (other bands playing at the same time had a much bigger attendance), I wouldn't like solo Liam to revert to this for whatever reason, nor would I like him to be a UK-only successful singer. I typed long answer to you and it wasn’t posted ughh. Shorter version I agree with you that he should’ve explained himself on the stage. Alas he he didn’t do it, and I’m afraid he’s not gonna do it in the future. Not because of arrogance (that arrogance is long gone) but because he’s very uncomfortable in the situations like this. The festival goers also were kinda over the top with their claims that he insulted the crowd. I thought he actually insulted the crowd with offensive words and gestures before I saw the video. I’m surprised that they didn’t invented stories of him being drunk and high like garylineker lol Yeah consequences can be bad for him. Oh well what’s done cannot be undone I said drunk on a previous festival. Which as someone as shown on the youtube link, he clearly was. |
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