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Post by NYR on Jan 20, 2021 9:02:59 GMT -5
Ladies and gentlemen, our long national nightmare is over!
Now that that shitstain Trump is out of office, we can start a thread about a man replacing the worst President in American history… I hope he and his staff brought enough sage to burn.
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Post by mimmihopps on Jan 20, 2021 9:06:16 GMT -5
I'm happy for you, our American friends.
I'll follow the ceremony live on TV later.
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Post by NYR on Jan 20, 2021 9:11:04 GMT -5
Things President Biden aims to do on day one:
-Imposing a national mandate requiring masks and physical distancing in all federal buildings, on all federal lands and by all federal employees -Terminating Trump’s efforts to leave the World Health Organization -Revoking the Trump administration’s plan to exclude noncitizens from the census count -Bringing back and strengthening DACA -Revoking the ban on travel to the United States from several predominantly Muslim and African countries -Halting construction of Trump's border wall -Revoking enhanced enforcement of immigration violations aimed at people already inside the United States -Blocking deportation of Liberians who had been living in the United States -Signing a broad executive order aimed at requiring all federal agencies to make equity a central factor in their work and directing federal agencies to conduct reviews looking to eliminate systemic discrimination in their policies and reversing historic discrimination in safety net and other federal spending -Requiring that the federal government does not discriminate on the basis of sexual orientation or gender identity, undoing a Trump executive order -Overturn a Trump executive order that limited the ability of federal government agencies to use diversity and inclusion training -Canceling Trump's 1776 Commission -Rejoining the Paris climate accords -Overturning environmental policies under the Trump administration, including rescinding rollbacks to vehicle emissions standards; imposing a moratorium on oil and natural gas leases in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge; revoking the permit for the Keystone XL pipeline; and re-establishing a working group on the social costs of greenhouse gasses -Signing an executive order meant to establish ethics rules for those who serve in his administration -Ordering all of his appointees in the executive branch to sign an ethics pledge -Issuing a freeze on all new regulations put in motion by Trump to give his administration time to evaluate which ones should move forward… if any
It's a great day in America, everybody.
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Post by The-Ghost-Dancer on Jan 20, 2021 9:17:52 GMT -5
Whoooohoooo finally a thread about a real president
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Post by World71R on Jan 20, 2021 11:59:28 GMT -5
It has only been a little under 10 minutes since Biden was sworn in, but I feel like the U.S. is already in a better place. Biden isn't the best person to be President but he's someone we need right now.
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Post by Binary Sunset on Jan 20, 2021 12:02:40 GMT -5
Thank fucking god. There's an sane adult back in the office.
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Post by matt on Jan 20, 2021 12:35:20 GMT -5
So after four years, the Presidency has been restored. It's weird to watch a leading politician in the western world talk with with respect and such eloquence again. Best of luck to President Biden and all you Americans. Also, pretty good speech for a guy that I was told was riddled with dementia...
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Jan 20, 2021 13:22:16 GMT -5
Wow. My favorite part of Biden's speech was when he had the audacity to ask Americans to step up as if his fellow politicians are doing anything at all other than filling their own wallets in this time of crisis. Off to a good start ...?
Meanwhile:
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Post by Marissa on Jan 20, 2021 13:25:49 GMT -5
-Rejoining the Paris climate accords -Overturning environmental policies under the Trump administration, including rescinding rollbacks to vehicle emissions standards; imposing a moratorium on oil and natural gas leases in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge; revoking the permit for the Keystone XL pipeline; and re-establishing a working group on the social costs of greenhouse gasses don't trust this guy at ALL, but this is promising. at least sounds like we can push him in the right direction, but we need to be on him constantly.
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Post by Marissa on Jan 20, 2021 13:27:14 GMT -5
Wow. My favorite part of Biden's speech was when he had the audacity to ask Americans to step up as if his fellow politicians are doing anything at all other than filling their own wallets in this time of crisis. Off to a good start ...?
Meanwhile:
gross.
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Jan 20, 2021 13:28:43 GMT -5
Wow. My favorite part of Biden's speech was when he had the audacity to ask Americans to step up as if his fellow politicians are doing anything at all other than filling their own wallets in this time of crisis. Off to a good start ...?
Meanwhile:
gross. Yep. I think I'm giving up that this shit will ever change.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2021 13:30:48 GMT -5
So you are saying that a 78 year old who has had positions in the upper echelons of politics for 40 years will not dramatically change anything?
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Post by Marissa on Jan 20, 2021 13:32:36 GMT -5
Yep. I think I'm giving up that this shit will ever change. i believe it will, but i also believe that it's going to because this presidency is going to fail miserably (not in the same ways at the last one, but in new and exciting ways). we're over this shit as we should be. the bare minimum of a leader isn't going to cut it. i think we're going to learn that "back to normal" isn't a real option.
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Jan 20, 2021 13:38:05 GMT -5
So you are saying that a 78 year old who has had positions in the upper echelons of politics for 40 years will not dramatically change anything? I mean, I suppose I shouldn't be surprised, since he campaigned on the very idea that nothing will change under his presidency Don't mean I can't be pissed that we have to wait a minimum of 4 more years to hope for something substantial ...
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Jan 20, 2021 13:46:34 GMT -5
Yep. I think I'm giving up that this shit will ever change. i believe it will, but i also believe that it's going to because this presidency is going to fail miserably (not in the same ways at the last one, but in new and exciting ways). we're over this shit as we should be. the bare minimum of a leader isn't going to cut it. i think we're going to learn that "back to normal" isn't a real option. What I fear most though is that 4 years of a weak Biden presidency will allow for a Trump 2.0. But maybe you're right, it will force stronger candidates. I wish Nina Turner would run.
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Post by Marissa on Jan 20, 2021 14:30:22 GMT -5
i believe it will, but i also believe that it's going to because this presidency is going to fail miserably (not in the same ways at the last one, but in new and exciting ways). we're over this shit as we should be. the bare minimum of a leader isn't going to cut it. i think we're going to learn that "back to normal" isn't a real option. What I fear most though is that 4 years of a weak Biden presidency will allow for a Trump 2.0. But maybe you're right, it will force stronger candidates. I wish Nina Turner would run. i think we're getting two years out of this, absolutely tops...
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Post by matt on Jan 20, 2021 15:21:23 GMT -5
This thread is going to be fun. Get ready for Biden Bingo, with claims of: * Dementia * Cronyism * "Sanders would have won it" * "Sleepy Joe" * Age Christ, it's as if Biden is a continuation of the last four years of bigotry, insurrection and racially inspired rebellion. Almost as if it wasn't that big a a deal. But hey, screw the executive orders signed today and liberal steps forward for climate change, accepting donations from big corporations (most of which everyone is a consumer of and complicit in) is as big a deal as fascism and racism I suppose. Priorities eh. No wonder the left aren't listened to.
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Post by Marissa on Jan 20, 2021 15:44:43 GMT -5
This thread is going to be fun. Get ready for Biden Bingo, with claims of: * Dementia * Cronyism * "Sanders would have won it" * "Sleepy Joe" * Age Christ, it's as if Biden is a continuation of the last four years of bigotry, insurrection and racially inspired rebellion. Almost as if it wasn't that big a a deal. But hey, screw the executive orders signed today and liberal steps forward for climate change, accepting donations from big corporations (most of which everyone is a consumer of and complicit in) is as big a deal as fascism and racism I suppose. Priorities eh. No wonder the left aren't listened to. i don't identify with the left whatsoever. why should we not call out what still needs to change? nobody said that being owned by corporations is the same as fascism. the last four years taught us that we need to fight for radical change, because america as a whole system is incredibly flawed. we still have work to do. there is no room for complacency just because there is now forward movement. that will get us absolutely nowhere.
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Post by Jessica on Jan 20, 2021 15:45:43 GMT -5
Hope they show up for midterm elections again like last time if they really care.
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Post by funhouse on Jan 20, 2021 16:22:58 GMT -5
Christ, it's as if Biden is a continuation of the last four years of bigotry, insurrection and racially inspired rebellion. Almost as if it wasn't that big a a deal. But hey, screw the executive orders signed today and liberal steps forward for climate change, accepting donations from big corporations (most of which everyone is a consumer of and complicit in) is as big a deal as fascism and racism I suppose. Oh, I guess people must wait... a week? A month? before any critique against Biden is allowed. I mean we just had Trump in the white house, and if people say things like "Biden is still kind of bad", that can easily translate into "Trump, fascism and racism was never a big deal", so I understand your concerns. Luckily I saw no one on here say anything hinting at that. Yes, those executive orders were good. Is that everything that needs to be done? Let's walk and chew gum at the same time.
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Post by tiger40 on Jan 20, 2021 18:16:14 GMT -5
Obviously Biden has got a big job on his hands but I wish him well. After all he's talking over from the worst US president ever so I guess that it won't be easy but give him a chance.
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Post by NYR on Jan 20, 2021 20:20:26 GMT -5
What's the over/under on Beady’s Here Now making a post saying he hopes Biden fails, just like he did with Obama in 2008?
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Jan 20, 2021 21:12:51 GMT -5
This thread is going to be fun. Get ready for Biden Bingo, with claims of: * Dementia * Cronyism * "Sanders would have won it" * "Sleepy Joe" * Age Christ, it's as if Biden is a continuation of the last four years of bigotry, insurrection and racially inspired rebellion. Almost as if it wasn't that big a a deal. But hey, screw the executive orders signed today and liberal steps forward for climate change, accepting donations from big corporations (most of which everyone is a consumer of and complicit in) is as big a deal as fascism and racism I suppose. Priorities eh. No wonder the left aren't listened to. So basically, as long as it's the bad republican guy, we can exploit every flaw they have. But the moment it's the "good" democrat guy, no no no, it's wrong to do that.
Okay Matt, I see your bias. Ignoring obvious corruption, it really just makes me shake my head.
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Jan 20, 2021 21:13:52 GMT -5
The difference between someone like myself and someone like Biden is that I am actually on the left while Biden is a diet republican too concerned with bipartisanship.
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Jan 20, 2021 21:26:13 GMT -5
Obviously Biden has got a big job on his hands but I wish him well. After all he's talking over from the worst US president ever so I guess that it won't be easy but give him a chance. We've played this game before with Obama. We used this for his entire first term to excuse weakness. We continued using it for his second term. Now we look back on those days and ask "What the fuck happened? What a disappointment." We can't make the same mistake this time. We have to keep pressure on the president, no exceptions, no excuses or we aid the overton window in moving further to the right as it has been trending for 40 years within the democratic party. Republicans are not our friends. No matter how much Uncle Joe wants you to think so. They are the enemy. Conservatism is the enemy. We don't need to work with these people, they need to work with us on our terms. With a Dem controlled house and split senate, this should be within reason to accomplish.
And no, I'm not suggesting we are capable of bullying Biden further to the left. But we can still voice our disappointment when he inevitably makes decisions in the best interest of those corporations that so kindly donated to him for that expensive inauguration, rather than doing what is best for working class.
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