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Post by drewsky34 on Jan 17, 2021 1:07:27 GMT -5
I’ve been on a huge Bob Dylan kick lately mainly just the 60’s stuff up to Desire but it got me thinking I’ve seen a ton of Noel interviews and it seems like he never mentions Bob. Does anyone know if he’s said if he listened to him or influenced him ever throughout his career? Those 3 albums in 65-66 are absolute epics.
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Post by mancraider on Jan 17, 2021 3:01:06 GMT -5
Love Dylan. Always thought Mucky Fingers was Noel trying to be a bit dylanesque.
Couldn't point you too an interview but I'm sure I've read somewhere that he was a big fan.
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Post by oasisserbia on Jan 17, 2021 4:27:53 GMT -5
No, he is not fan...
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Post by Gerhard on Jan 17, 2021 5:05:54 GMT -5
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Post by girllikeabomb on Jan 17, 2021 6:05:32 GMT -5
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Post by defmaybe00 on Jan 17, 2021 6:13:11 GMT -5
He's a big fan actually
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Post by oasisserbia on Jan 17, 2021 6:18:06 GMT -5
What is the name of that song, it was just a demo, sounds like Dylan, it has some whistling or something at the beginning?
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Post by oasisserbia on Jan 17, 2021 6:22:29 GMT -5
Oh yeah this. Sounds like something that someone who is not fan of Dylan would write :-)
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Post by walterglass on Jan 17, 2021 8:06:18 GMT -5
Bootleg Series, The Cutting Edge. Think it’s number 12? It’s sensational.
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Post by tiger40 on Jan 17, 2021 13:49:02 GMT -5
I always thought that Noel was a fan of both Dylan and Neil Young.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jan 17, 2021 14:41:10 GMT -5
I always thought that Noel was a fan of both Dylan and Neil Young. He is. Big time. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jan 17, 2021 14:45:38 GMT -5
Wish some soundboard versions of Noel’s dylan covers would “leak” and it would be fun if he ever tossed one into his set randomly.
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Post by matt on Jan 17, 2021 15:06:36 GMT -5
Big indication of his fandom of Dylan going back to the 90s - see the 'blood on the tracks' reference in D'You Know What I Mean.
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Post by walterglass on Jan 17, 2021 15:07:13 GMT -5
I realise I’m offering very little regarding Noel in relation to Dylan and vice-versa BUT...
Bob Dylan actually blows me away.
He’s just so far ahead of the pack it’s ridiculous.
Britain had 4 Beatles and a bagful of Stones...he’s outrun and out-written all of them combined. Here’s a guy - one dude - who makes peripheral figures of cats like Mike Bloomfield and Emmylou Harris.
He released Highway 61, then arguably outdone himself with Blonde on Blonde (possibly).
At his peak he was disgustingly prolific but hardly ever at the expense of quality. He’ll rhyme a word with itself and manage to make it clear it was never due to a lack of ideas but to humour and mischief. He can be greatly philosophical but deliver it in such a ragged way that he sounds like a frustrated dockyard worker.
He’s fucking...out of this world.
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Post by spyrosfab4 on Jan 17, 2021 15:41:02 GMT -5
I realise I’m offering very little regarding Noel in relation to Dylan and vice-versa BUT... Bob Dylan actually blows me away. He’s just so far ahead of the pack it’s ridiculous. Britain had 4 Beatles and a bagful of Stones...he’s outrun and out-written all of them combined. Here’s a guy - one dude - who makes peripheral figures of cats like Mike Bloomfield and Emmylou Harris. He released Highway 61, then arguably outdone himself with Blonde on Blonde (possibly). At his peak he was disgustingly prolific but hardly ever at the expense of quality. He’ll rhyme a word with itself and manage to make it clear it was never due to a lack of ideas but to humour and mischief. He can be greatly philosophical but deliver it in such a ragged way that he sounds like a frustrated dockyard worker. He’s fucking...out of this world. Please, PLEASE don't compare Bob Dylan musically with Paul Mccartney. Dylan is rock's greatest lyricist , i'll give you that. But in termas of melodic songwriting NO ONE can touch Mccartney in consistency. Bob Dylan seems to agree too... |
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Post by walterglass on Jan 17, 2021 15:54:44 GMT -5
I realise I’m offering very little regarding Noel in relation to Dylan and vice-versa BUT... Bob Dylan actually blows me away. He’s just so far ahead of the pack it’s ridiculous. Britain had 4 Beatles and a bagful of Stones...he’s outrun and out-written all of them combined. Here’s a guy - one dude - who makes peripheral figures of cats like Mike Bloomfield and Emmylou Harris. He released Highway 61, then arguably outdone himself with Blonde on Blonde (possibly). At his peak he was disgustingly prolific but hardly ever at the expense of quality. He’ll rhyme a word with itself and manage to make it clear it was never due to a lack of ideas but to humour and mischief. He can be greatly philosophical but deliver it in such a ragged way that he sounds like a frustrated dockyard worker. He’s fucking...out of this world. Please, PLEASE don't compare Bob Dylan musically with Paul Mccartney. Dylan is rock's greatest lyricist , i'll give you that. But in termas of melodic songwriting NO ONE can touch Mccartney in consistency. Bob Dylan seems to agree too... Dylan is Hollywood, McCartney is Hollyoaks. |
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Post by matt on Jan 17, 2021 16:03:19 GMT -5
Please, PLEASE don't compare Bob Dylan musically with Paul Mccartney. Dylan is rock's greatest lyricist , i'll give you that. But in termas of melodic songwriting NO ONE can touch Mccartney in consistency. Bob Dylan seems to agree too... Dylan is Hollywood, McCartney is Hollyoaks. Nah not having that, you can't shit on a guy who wrote Eleanor Rigby by comparing it to Hollyoaks. There's no accounting for taste with that. I would say McCartney's Hollywood, Dylan's French cinema. McCartney more accessible at demonstrating profound human emotions, Dylan more philosophical. Both excel at what they do and are the best, but they're completely incomparable forms of art. Both are loved at being the best at what they do, it's not a competition. If we're comparing to Hollyoaks, there's a Kasabian thread for that. |
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Post by walterglass on Jan 17, 2021 16:04:48 GMT -5
Dylan is Hollywood, McCartney is Hollyoaks. Nah not having that, you can't shit on a guy who wrote Eleanor Rigby by comparing it to Hollyoaks. I would say McCartney's Hollywood, Dylan's French cinema. McCartney more accessible at demonstrating profound human emotions, Dylan more philosophical. Both excel at what they do and are the best, but they're completely incomparable forms of art. Both are loved at being the best at what they do, it's not a competition. I was jesting. |
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Post by tiger40 on Jan 17, 2021 17:16:44 GMT -5
I always thought that Noel was a fan of both Dylan and Neil Young. He is. Big time. Yeah, I thought so. |
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Post by garylineker on Jan 17, 2021 18:03:19 GMT -5
Big indication of his fandom of Dylan going back to the 90s - see the 'blood on the tracks' reference in D'You Know What I Mean. Bit off topic - I know there's very few similarities between Noel and Liams songwriting but it's always struck me how Liam references songs like this the same way Noel used to. It's almost as if Noels only tip to him was mention loads of old songs you know and rip off as many tunes as you know. |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Jan 17, 2021 18:18:19 GMT -5
Big indication of his fandom of Dylan going back to the 90s - see the 'blood on the tracks' reference in D'You Know What I Mean. Bit off topic - I know there's very few similarities between Noel and Liams songwriting but it's always struck me how Liam references songs like this the same way Noel used to. It's almost as if Noels only tip to him was mention loads of old songs you know and rip off as many tunes as you know. Well, *technically* that's how he made it work  |
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Post by garylineker on Jan 17, 2021 18:20:27 GMT -5
Bit off topic - I know there's very few similarities between Noel and Liams songwriting but it's always struck me how Liam references songs like this the same way Noel used to. It's almost as if Noels only tip to him was mention loads of old songs you know and rip off as many tunes as you know. Well, *technically* that's how he made it work I reckon Noel definetely gave him a few pointers early on 😂 |
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Post by tomlivesforever on Jan 17, 2021 18:21:03 GMT -5
I realise I’m offering very little regarding Noel in relation to Dylan and vice-versa BUT... Bob Dylan actually blows me away. He’s just so far ahead of the pack it’s ridiculous. Britain had 4 Beatles and a bagful of Stones...he’s outrun and out-written all of them combined. Here’s a guy - one dude - who makes peripheral figures of cats like Mike Bloomfield and Emmylou Harris. He released Highway 61, then arguably outdone himself with Blonde on Blonde (possibly). At his peak he was disgustingly prolific but hardly ever at the expense of quality. He’ll rhyme a word with itself and manage to make it clear it was never due to a lack of ideas but to humour and mischief. He can be greatly philosophical but deliver it in such a ragged way that he sounds like a frustrated dockyard worker. He’s fucking...out of this world. Please, PLEASE don't compare Bob Dylan musically with Paul Mccartney. Dylan is rock's greatest lyricist , i'll give you that. But in termas of melodic songwriting NO ONE can touch Mccartney in consistency. Bob Dylan seems to agree too... Consistency? Not sure McCartney has been as consistently good as Dylan since the 60's. I don't like the way Dylan is framed as a lyricist, he's written a hell of a lot of great songs musically. They might not have big flag waving choruses or a pop structure or length but the man can write a tune. |
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Post by tomlivesforever on Jan 17, 2021 18:29:04 GMT -5
Dylan is Hollywood, McCartney is Hollyoaks. Nah not having that, you can't shit on a guy who wrote Eleanor Rigby by comparing it to Hollyoaks. There's no accounting for taste with that. I would say McCartney's Hollywood, Dylan's French cinema. McCartney more accessible at demonstrating profound human emotions, Dylan more philosophical. Both excel at what they do and are the best, but they're completely incomparable forms of art. Both are loved at being the best at what they do, it's not a competition. If we're comparing to Hollyoaks, there's a Kasabian thread for that. I see what your getting at but I'm not sure there has been any one better at articulating a large a range of human emotions than Dylan. |
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Post by matt on Jan 17, 2021 18:30:35 GMT -5
Big indication of his fandom of Dylan going back to the 90s - see the 'blood on the tracks' reference in D'You Know What I Mean. Bit off topic - I know there's very few similarities between Noel and Liams songwriting but it's always struck me how Liam references songs like this the same way Noel used to. It's almost as if Noels only tip to him was mention loads of old songs you know and rip off as many tunes as you know. There's that time Noel said Liam brought a song to the studio and the lyrics consisted of basically nothing but titles of Oasis songs. |
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