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Post by Headmaster on Jan 4, 2021 22:41:47 GMT -5
Blame him for allowing Andy and Gem writting songs for the albums, their songs should have been b-sides at best, Turn Up The Sun is the only one worth the inclusion.
Liam however is a decent songwritter, he wrote some great songs over the years and he is a Gallagher btw, he had the credentials to write Oasis songs.
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Post by garys on Jan 4, 2021 22:52:20 GMT -5
What do you blame Noel for?
Global warming
Covid
K pop
The decline of western civilization
Little blue suits and brown shoes on grown men
The Watch TV series
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Post by andymorris on Jan 5, 2021 8:46:14 GMT -5
I never thought Let's All Make Believe could fit on it. I tried numerous tracklisting, but it just doesnt work. I suspect Noe felt the same and the Liam story is fake. Remove Sunday Morning Call, Swap full on instead of Liar, add One way Road and Cigs in hell somewhere and it's fine as it is. LAMB is single material imo, you could easily find a place for it and One Way Road, then maybe what they needed was a better rocker than ICSAL, but Noel wasn't much in the mood at the time I’ve always been bothered by the vocals edit on this song, the chorus especially, very badly edited. Feels very unnatural, robot like. Probably why I never really got into that song Just listened to SOTsOG this morning, I still blame you Noel. I wanna hear all the songs from this session, all the versions. NOW |
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Post by andymorris on Jan 7, 2021 5:28:42 GMT -5
I blame Noel for new material since December 31st. What a lazy dude.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2021 7:41:45 GMT -5
For not evolving Oasis enough in the 2000s and also letting other band members contribute too much to the albums. I mean...A Bell will Ring ffs. Come on.
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Post by Diamond in The Dark on Jan 7, 2021 8:48:11 GMT -5
Morally he is an unfair, self-centered, greedy, traitor and liar guy. Professionally he has written great songs and is the best songwriter of Oasis, but he is not a genius because he has done a lot of plagiarism. It has a good vocal range but its timbre is not rock, while Liam's voice is much more beautiful and particular. He's not a good frontman, his solo records are pretty overrated, and his gigs are quite boring and without grit.
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Post by rollagher on Jan 7, 2021 9:22:41 GMT -5
With many Others: Brexit! All this Britpop, "buy British" signs, Union Jack guitar etc. in the early Oasis years! Imagine a German band would have done this we would have called them Nazi! Don't get me wrong, It's no problem to be proud of your country but when you start feeling suprior over others IT get problematic...
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Post by defmaybe00 on Jan 7, 2021 9:32:48 GMT -5
Morally he is an unfair, self-centered, greedy, traitor and liar guy. Professionally he has written great songs and is the best songwriter of Oasis, but he is not a genius because he has done a lot of plagiarism. It has a good vocal range but its timbre is not rock, while Liam's voice is much more beautiful and particular. He's not a good frontman, his solo records are pretty overrated, and his gigs are quite boring and without grit. Yes but what do you really blame Noel for? |
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Post by andymorris on Jan 7, 2021 9:51:34 GMT -5
Morally he is an unfair, self-centered, greedy, traitor and liar guy. Professionally he has written great songs and is the best songwriter of Oasis, but he is not a genius because he has done a lot of plagiarism. It has a good vocal range but its timbre is not rock, while Liam's voice is much more beautiful and particular. He's not a good frontman, his solo records are pretty overrated, and his gigs are quite boring and without grit. Yes but what do you really blame Noel for?  . I swear i cant believe what i just read. Up there with the Capitol invasion. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2021 10:06:49 GMT -5
Morally he is an unfair, self-centered, greedy, traitor and liar guy. Professionally he has written great songs and is the best songwriter of Oasis, but he is not a genius because he has done a lot of plagiarism. It has a good vocal range but its timbre is not rock, while Liam's voice is much more beautiful and particular. He's not a good frontman, his solo records are pretty overrated, and his gigs are quite boring and without grit. Man, you can prefer Liam of course, but why lowering Noel songwriting with Oasis, saying he "plagiarised a lot" (which is one of the arguments of many Oasis haters) ? It seems you have pure hatred for the guy. EDIT: Of course Noel take a lot of inspiration from other work, but so do countless of songwriters. |
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Post by Diamond in The Dark on Jan 7, 2021 10:20:36 GMT -5
Morally he is an unfair, self-centered, greedy, traitor and liar guy. Professionally he has written great songs and is the best songwriter of Oasis, but he is not a genius because he has done a lot of plagiarism. It has a good vocal range but its timbre is not rock, while Liam's voice is much more beautiful and particular. He's not a good frontman, his solo records are pretty overrated, and his gigs are quite boring and without grit. Man, you can prefer Liam of course, but why lowering Noel songwriting with Oasis, saying he "plagiarised a lot" (which is one of the arguments of many Oasis haters) ? It seems you have pure hatred for the guy. EDIT: Of course Noel take a lot of inspiration from other work, but so do countless of songwriters. My speech it's not an opinion it's a fact |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Jan 7, 2021 10:31:10 GMT -5
Now, we all have different conceptions of the word "genius", Noel himself would tell you he just paid attention while listening and learned how to steal from others and make his own thing out of it, but I'm quite sure there's some degree of talent in there that made him and not us lazy fuckers come up with Live Forever
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Post by dampcottage on Jan 7, 2021 10:43:09 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2021 10:49:21 GMT -5
Now, we all have different conceptions of the word "genius", Noel himself would tell you he just paid attention while listening and learned how to steal from others and make his own thing out of it, but I'm quite sure there's some degree of talent in there that made him and not us lazy fuckers come up with Live Forever And a lot of work too. You can see the huge progress between his 1989 demo tape and the classics he started writing around 1992/1993. |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Jan 7, 2021 10:53:48 GMT -5
Now, we all have different conceptions of the word "genius", Noel himself would tell you he just paid attention while listening and learned how to steal from others and make his own thing out of it, but I'm quite sure there's some degree of talent in there that made him and not us lazy fuckers come up with Live Forever And a lot of work too. You can see the huge progress between his 1989 demo tape and the classics he started writing around 1992/1993. Sure, it's clear he worked on it a lot especially once he realised he had it and it could take him places, but the ability he's got with pop melodies is simply remarkable And I wish it could be brought down to plagiarism because then I'd have a shot at being a millionaire too |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2021 11:00:00 GMT -5
Morally he is an unfair, self-centered, greedy, traitor and liar guy. Professionally he has written great songs and is the best songwriter of Oasis, but he is not a genius because he has done a lot of plagiarism. It has a good vocal range but its timbre is not rock, while Liam's voice is much more beautiful and particular. He's not a good frontman, his solo records are pretty overrated, and his gigs are quite boring and without grit.
Whats your opinion on Liam?
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Post by Diamond in The Dark on Jan 7, 2021 11:13:44 GMT -5
Morally he is an unfair, self-centered, greedy, traitor and liar guy. Professionally he has written great songs and is the best songwriter of Oasis, but he is not a genius because he has done a lot of plagiarism. It has a good vocal range but its timbre is not rock, while Liam's voice is much more beautiful and particular. He's not a good frontman, his solo records are pretty overrated, and his gigs are quite boring and without grit.
Whats your opinion on Liam?
Liam is natural, loyal, sincere, sensitive and selfless. He is a decent author, with some notable peaks. It has an impressive voice and a peculiar timbre that is very well suited to different musical genres. The biggest mistake he made was to not heal his voice for many years. He is a great frontman, he doesn't do much on stage, but his charisma and what little he does manages to excite people enormously as if he did who knows what, and this is a great talent. It often underestimates some of its potential. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2021 11:20:52 GMT -5
Whats your opinion on Liam?
Liam is natural, loyal, sincere, sensitive and selfless. He is a decent author, with some notable peaks. It has an impressive voice and a peculiar timbre that is very well suited to different musical genres. The biggest mistake he made was to not heal his voice for many years. He is a great frontman, he doesn't do much on stage, but his charisma and what little he does manages to excite people enormously as if he did who knows what, and this is a great talent. It often underestimates some of its potential. So I guy who - marries his first wife in 1997 - starts an affair a couple of weeks after - resulting in a child in 1998 which he didn’t give a fuck about for 20 years - remarries again in 2008 - to have another child with a different affair (And those are only the obvious missteps) Is loyal, sincere, sensitive and selfless where Noel is a lying, cheating traitor. That definitely checks out |
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Post by Diamond in The Dark on Jan 7, 2021 12:02:27 GMT -5
Liam is natural, loyal, sincere, sensitive and selfless. He is a decent author, with some notable peaks. It has an impressive voice and a peculiar timbre that is very well suited to different musical genres. The biggest mistake he made was to not heal his voice for many years. He is a great frontman, he doesn't do much on stage, but his charisma and what little he does manages to excite people enormously as if he did who knows what, and this is a great talent. It often underestimates some of its potential. So I guy who - marries his first wife in 1997 - starts an affair a couple of weeks after - resulting in a child in 1998 which he didn’t give a fuck about for 20 years - remarries again in 2008 - to have another child with a different affair (And those are only the obvious missteps) Is loyal, sincere, sensitive and selfless where Noel is a lying, cheating traitor. That definitely checks out Marital infidelity has nothing to do with my speech. He, like many others, is an international legend and it is natural that he can remarry 1000 times. Brotherly betrayal is much, much worse. Making false claims to ruin your brother's career is even worse. As for the recognition of children, Liam has always stated that it was their mothers who prevented them from approaching girls until they came of age. And he feels that he is willing to recognize Gemma too if only her mother would let him. So please don't come up with ridiculous things to try to make Liam a worse person than Noel because he's not at all. |
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Post by walterglass on Jan 7, 2021 12:19:41 GMT -5
We’re going all Loose Women again.
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Post by defmaybe00 on Jan 7, 2021 12:23:08 GMT -5
Noel Gallagher, war criminal
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2021 12:29:16 GMT -5
So I guy who - marries his first wife in 1997 - starts an affair a couple of weeks after - resulting in a child in 1998 which he didn’t give a fuck about for 20 years - remarries again in 2008 - to have another child with a different affair (And those are only the obvious missteps) Is loyal, sincere, sensitive and selfless where Noel is a lying, cheating traitor. That definitely checks out Marital infidelity has nothing to do with my speech. He, like many others, is an international legend and it is natural that he can remarry 1000 times. Brotherly betrayal is much, much worse. Making false claims to ruin your brother's career is even worse. As for the recognition of children, Liam has always stated that it was their mothers who prevented them from approaching girls until they came of age. And he feels that he is willing to recognize Gemma too if only her mother would let him. So please don't come up with ridiculous things to try to make Liam a worse person than Noel because he's not at all. Wow, just wow |
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Post by lg on Jan 7, 2021 12:39:14 GMT -5
Whats your opinion on Liam?
Liam is natural, loyal, sincere, sensitive and selfless. Are you.. Debbie? This conversation just took a weird turn lol P.s. Loyal? Ehm |
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Post by lg on Jan 7, 2021 12:41:39 GMT -5
So I guy who - marries his first wife in 1997 - starts an affair a couple of weeks after - resulting in a child in 1998 which he didn’t give a fuck about for 20 years - remarries again in 2008 - to have another child with a different affair (And those are only the obvious missteps) Is loyal, sincere, sensitive and selfless where Noel is a lying, cheating traitor. That definitely checks out So please don't come up with ridiculous things to try to make Liam a worse person than Noel because he's not at all. Of course you know both of them personally |
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Post by mimmihopps on Jan 7, 2021 13:26:38 GMT -5
An another endless Noel vs Liam dog fighting.
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