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Post by vespa on Dec 3, 2020 7:25:59 GMT -5
I did see a random someone on Instagram who claimed to be in the audience when Liam performed (said it was live and done in 3 takes) but could easily be truth or fantasy. Pictures or it didn't happen. Yeah or "mimed live" 3 times to be in perfect synch video/audio. I guess we'll never know. Mate Jesus wept , it’s a live version done in 3 takes he’s got a scarf on then not , the vocals are live ,don’t matter how you treat them ,clyp them together it’s live , I’d argue parts of the backing track were mimed but Liam is singing . Footage is obviously edited together as there’s 3 takes but Liam is singing , you can see vocal chords ,strain . He’s sings these kind of songs in his sleep why you think his albums are slowly filling up with them type of songs? |
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Post by El Auténtico Dios on Dec 3, 2020 8:18:55 GMT -5
there's nothing you can say/do. This guy needs some medication.
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Post by andymorris on Dec 3, 2020 9:16:50 GMT -5
Yeah or "mimed live" 3 times to be in perfect synch video/audio. I guess we'll never know. Mate Jesus wept , it’s a live version done in 3 takes he’s got a scarf on then not , the vocals are live ,don’t matter how you treat them ,clyp them together it’s live , I’d argue parts of the backing track were mimed but Liam is singing . Footage is obviously edited together as there’s 3 takes but Liam is singing , you can see vocal chords ,strain . He’s sings these kind of songs in his sleep why you think his albums are slowly filling up with them type of songs?  sorry, there: |
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Post by eva on Dec 3, 2020 9:42:11 GMT -5
ok, we can draw the line at britney spears
mate, just find another hobby. Enough already.
This is beyond of having another "discussion" about a subject, you just enjoy annoying everyone
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Post by defmaybe00 on Dec 3, 2020 10:13:34 GMT -5
My loneliness is killing me...
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Post by sheisloved on Dec 3, 2020 10:14:59 GMT -5
Hearing that Liam entered the charts at #4
Is this correct?
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Post by defmaybe00 on Dec 3, 2020 10:15:50 GMT -5
Hearing that Liam entered the charts at #4 Is this correct? Charts are out tomorrow, he's currently #27 according to yesterday's update |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Dec 3, 2020 10:48:13 GMT -5
Hearing that Liam entered the charts at #4 Is this correct? Charts are out tomorrow, he's currently #27 according to yesterday's update If Liam lands anywhere in the Top 25 that is a good fucking job. That is hard to do. I know we were all spoiled by Oasis always crashing into the #1 spot or Top 5 but that was a very different era for them and music consumption in general. It’s a young persons game generally. |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Dec 3, 2020 10:49:09 GMT -5
Charts are out tomorrow, he's currently #27 according to yesterday's update If Liam lands anywhere in the Top 25 that is a good fucking job. That is hard to do. I know we were all spoiled by Oasis always crashing into the #1 spot or Top 5 but that was a very different era for them and music consumption in general. It’s a young persons game generally. Think it's only gonna fall at this point, but point still valid for a top 40 |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Dec 3, 2020 13:22:33 GMT -5
#29 today, missing some spotify data but hopefully not enough to push it out of the Top 40 come tomorrow
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Post by Lennon2217 on Dec 3, 2020 13:59:46 GMT -5
#29 today, missing some spotify data but hopefully not enough to push it out of the Top 40 come tomorrow It’s all about Spotify. They have a monopoly on everything music wise now. |
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Post by tiger40 on Dec 3, 2020 14:03:52 GMT -5
But surely streams from other streaming sites count in the charts as well. I hope that Liam doesn't drop out of the top 30 or 40 tomorrow.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Dec 3, 2020 14:08:37 GMT -5
But surely streams from other streaming sites count in the charts as well. I hope that Liam doesn't drop out of the top 30 or 40 tomorrow. They do but Spotify is by far the largest most dominating factor. Artists who end up on their pushed playlists naturally get a massive amount of streams. I’m sure a ton of wheel greasing goes on to get into those playlists. Maybe Spotify needs outside regulation? Payola anyone? |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Dec 3, 2020 14:09:20 GMT -5
But surely streams from other streaming sites count in the charts as well. I hope that Liam doesn't drop out of the top 30 or 40 tomorrow. Well, the problem with Spotify is that it's got the bigger audience and he's not exactly killing it on Apple Music either (not that it was unexpected), but still let's see, I'm kinda positive |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Dec 3, 2020 14:10:43 GMT -5
But surely streams from other streaming sites count in the charts as well. I hope that Liam doesn't drop out of the top 30 or 40 tomorrow. They do but Spotify is by far the largest most dominating factor. Artists who end up on their pushed playlists naturally get a massive amount of streams. I’m sure a ton of wheel greasing goes on to get into those playlists. Maybe Spotify needs outside regulation? Payola anyone? The whole Spotify thing honestly need a total rethink The singles chart is messy but the way they count album sales is even worse imo |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Dec 3, 2020 14:14:20 GMT -5
They do but Spotify is by far the largest most dominating factor. Artists who end up on their pushed playlists naturally get a massive amount of streams. I’m sure a ton of wheel greasing goes on to get into those playlists. Maybe Spotify needs outside regulation? Payola anyone? The whole Spotify thing honestly need a total rethink The singles chart is messy but the way they count album sales is even worse imo And that is why more and more artists are releasing 15-30 track “albums” to Spotify to rack up more streams and album units being “counted”. It’s such a farce. |
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Post by igotflair on Dec 3, 2020 14:18:01 GMT -5
He needs a contemporary pr campaign, the demographic of The One Show and Jonathan Ross etc probably aren’t those who buy or stream records and that approach is dated. A totally fresh outlook is what’s needed if he wants to successfully chart, I’m not sure if the charts are that important though.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Dec 3, 2020 14:21:42 GMT -5
He needs a contemporary pr campaign, the demographic of The One Show and Jonathan Ross etc probably aren’t those who buy or stream records and that approach is dated. A totally fresh outlook is what’s needed if he wants to successfully chart, I’m not sure if the charts are that important though. It’s not the charts babe, it’s what is in our hearts.  |
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Post by tiger40 on Dec 3, 2020 14:30:04 GMT -5
But surely streams from other streaming sites count in the charts as well. I hope that Liam doesn't drop out of the top 30 or 40 tomorrow. They do but Spotify is by far the largest most dominating factor. Artists who end up on their pushed playlists naturally get a massive amount of streams. I’m sure a ton of wheel greasing goes on to get into those playlists. Maybe Spotify needs outside regulation? Payola anyone? Oh ok. I didn't know that about Spotify . I always tend to use Amazon music. |
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Post by tiger40 on Dec 3, 2020 14:36:49 GMT -5
But surely streams from other streaming sites count in the charts as well. I hope that Liam doesn't drop out of the top 30 or 40 tomorrow. Well, the problem with Spotify is that it's got the bigger audience and he's not exactly killing it on Apple Music either (not that it was unexpected), but still let's see, I'm kinda positive So Sposify must have the largest streaming audience I guess. I don't know what the audience figers are for other streaming services. I do know that Amazon music is pushing the boundaries these days by offering HD streaming services. Anyway like you say we'll just have to wait and see tomorrow where Liam ends up in the charts. |
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Dec 3, 2020 14:59:17 GMT -5
Wait so when do the official charts come out?
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Post by themanwholivesinhell on Dec 3, 2020 15:01:57 GMT -5
Wait so when do the official charts come out? 5:45 tomorrow normally |
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Dec 3, 2020 15:02:44 GMT -5
Wait so when do the official charts come out? 5:45 tomorrow normally Thanks. Hoping he beats his own records. |
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Post by themanwholivesinhell on Dec 3, 2020 15:04:18 GMT -5
Thanks. Hoping he beats his own records. We might find out slightly before, around 5 they often give a summary on the official UK charts website, so they might say where hes charted then. |
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Post by girllikeabomb on Dec 3, 2020 15:38:26 GMT -5
ok, we can draw the line at britney spears mate, just find another hobby. Enough already. This is beyond of having another "discussion" about a subject, you just enjoy annoying everyone Well, I know there are dynamics that develop long-term over forums, and I won't comment on any of that, since I'm newish. But I will say that Andy Morris has been, in this conversation, respectful, funny, responsive and self-aware, all pretty nice things in the wilds of fan forums. Seen many uglier threads, that's for sure. This one has mostly been in good cheer, with a few exceptions. That said, I wonder if a solution for future is to put such posts in their own folder. A “controversies” folder or something. That way people who are highly annoyed can skip them. This particular topic is not just here, I'm afraid. It’s rampant on social media, so it's not like someone is just mining a grudge ... but maybe they're miming a grudge!  |
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