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Post by mimmihopps on Dec 3, 2020 16:05:39 GMT -5
ok, we can draw the line at britney spears mate, just find another hobby. Enough already. This is beyond of having another "discussion" about a subject, you just enjoy annoying everyone Well, I know there are dynamics that develop long-term over forums, and I won't comment on any of that, since I'm newish. But I will say that Andy Morris has been, in this conversation, respectful, funny, responsive and self-aware, all pretty nice things in the wilds of fan forums. Seen many uglier threads, that's for sure. This one has mostly been in good cheer, with a few exceptions. That said, I wonder if a solution for future is to put such posts in their own folder. A “controversies” folder or something. That way people who are highly annoyed can skip them. This particular topic is not just here, I'm afraid. It’s rampant on social media, so it's not like someone is just mining a grudge ... but maybe they're miming a grudge! Certain members only pop up for certain comments. It's always been like that and it always will, unfortunatelly. "Fun" and "enjoying to annoy everyone" are completely different things. At this point, nobody cares if it was live or not live except someone who keeps going on, on, on, on... to convince others he's right. People moved on, so he should move on as well. and no, there will be no "controversies" folder on this board, present and in future, I'm afraid.
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Post by Manualex on Dec 3, 2020 17:51:35 GMT -5
He needs a contemporary pr campaign, the demographic of The One Show and Jonathan Ross etc probably aren’t those who buy or stream records and that approach is dated. A totally fresh outlook is what’s needed if he wants to successfully chart, I’m not sure if the charts are that important though. It’s not the charts babe, it’s what is in our hearts.
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Post by defmaybe00 on Dec 3, 2020 18:14:39 GMT -5
He needs a contemporary pr campaign, the demographic of The One Show and Jonathan Ross etc probably aren’t those who buy or stream records and that approach is dated. A totally fresh outlook is what’s needed if he wants to successfully chart, I’m not sure if the charts are that important though. He'd probably need to completely embarrass himslef to gain any more fans than he has since his solo career started I'd rather things stay this way, tbh
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Post by andymorris on Dec 4, 2020 1:22:41 GMT -5
The Britney comment was a relevant answer as it disproves the quoted post in a very simple way. You can really sing and lip sync at the same time. Hell, some artist do both... during the same song !
There are many tricks people are not aware of, and it's interesting to me to know these things. Burn me for that.
Thanx to the people that supported me here and elsewhere, the few open to discussion, even those i disagreed with on this subject. For the well being of this forum, i'll stop now.
If anyone wants the answer to my little game, PM.
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Post by andymorris on Dec 4, 2020 1:30:38 GMT -5
ok, we can draw the line at britney spears mate, just find another hobby. Enough already. This is beyond of having another "discussion" about a subject, you just enjoy annoying everyone Well, I know there are dynamics that develop long-term over forums, and I won't comment on any of that, since I'm newish. But I will say that Andy Morris has been, in this conversation, respectful, funny, responsive and self-aware, all pretty nice things in the wilds of fan forums. Seen many uglier threads, that's for sure. This one has mostly been in good cheer, with a few exceptions. That said, I wonder if a solution for future is to put such posts in their own folder. A “controversies” folder or something. That way people who are highly annoyed can skip them. This particular topic is not just here, I'm afraid. It’s rampant on social media, so it's not like someone is just mining a grudge ... but maybe they're miming a grudge! You may be new, but you"re already a great add to this forum. Welcome, i look forward to discussing with you in the future. And disagree
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Post by theunderclass on Dec 4, 2020 5:28:47 GMT -5
still with this playback thing ... it's lasting longer than covid I’m beginning to wish I’d get covid rather than wade through any more of this debate ... (No offense intended to anyone who’s genuinely been affected by the terrible thing)
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Post by defmaybe00 on Dec 4, 2020 11:17:13 GMT -5
Officially charted at #35
Hoped it would keep that top 30, but still very very good
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Post by The Goose on Dec 4, 2020 11:19:29 GMT -5
His 5th Solo Top 40 hit get in there. We’ve got the basis of a LG Greatest Hits collection starting to form
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Post by defmaybe00 on Dec 4, 2020 11:35:10 GMT -5
His 5th Solo Top 40 hit get in there. We’ve got the basis of a LG Greatest Hits collection starting to form 4th actually, but yes Hopefully he manages to snatch a couple with his next record
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Post by The Goose on Dec 4, 2020 12:49:10 GMT -5
5th including Death In Vegas collab in 2002
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Dec 4, 2020 12:52:55 GMT -5
Damn was hoping 20's at least. But not bad for a nearing 50's musician.
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Post by themanwholivesinhell on Dec 4, 2020 13:00:47 GMT -5
At least its the highest new entry of the week.
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Post by stxparkamonkey on Dec 4, 2020 13:03:17 GMT -5
I was hoping he'd tie WOG and Shockwave at least, what are the chances this can crawl up the charts once the video is released? Did the official video for Once help it once released?
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Post by mancraider on Dec 4, 2020 13:10:20 GMT -5
Wonder how high it would have got if vinyl was released this week. Hopefully itll give a good boost christmas week.
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Post by defmaybe00 on Dec 4, 2020 13:23:17 GMT -5
Wonder how high it would have got if vinyl was released this week. Hopefully itll give a good boost christmas week. It was clearly a strategic thing, I'm curious to see if it works out as they planned it
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Post by lg on Dec 4, 2020 13:40:10 GMT -5
Fuck streaming lol
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Post by defmaybe00 on Dec 4, 2020 13:45:14 GMT -5
The confusion this generated in the comments is triggering me
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Post by Lennon2217 on Dec 4, 2020 13:47:15 GMT -5
So what was that Super Hot 40 nonsense? I hate all these fake charts or still ongoing charts. Just do one chart. Maybe if you wanna rank how songs “sold” in their subgenre fine but all these other charts seem like ways just for record companies to spin “success”. This is not a shot at Liam at all. It’s just the web of charts and what it all means.
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Post by defmaybe00 on Dec 4, 2020 13:49:48 GMT -5
So what was that Super Hot 40 nonsense? I hate all these fake charts or still ongoing charts. Just do one chart. Maybe if you wanna rank how songs “sold” in their subgenre fine but all these other charts seem like ways just for record companies to spin “success”. This is not a shot at Liam at all. It’s just the web of charts and what it all means. The Super Hot thing has got nothing to do with the official charts, no idea what it's about There's only the UK Official Chart that take streaming + sales into account and the Sales Only Chart where the positions are sorted without counting streams
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Post by tiger40 on Dec 4, 2020 14:09:06 GMT -5
It's at number 6 on the Amazon sales chart. I was hoping that Liam's single would stay in the top 30. But it's good to see that it's number one in both the official download charts and the official singles sales chart.
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Post by vespa on Dec 4, 2020 14:31:34 GMT -5
He was on the big top 40 last week at 4 on 2 days sales , this last week he’s got the biggest selling single of the week but for some reason they added steaming into the equation , that’s a big task at this time of year
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Post by defmaybe00 on Dec 4, 2020 14:41:36 GMT -5
He was on the big top 40 last week at 4 on 2 days sales , this last week he’s got the biggest selling single of the week but for some reason they added steaming into the equation , that’s a big task at this time of year The big top 40 is nothing Adding streaming it's what they've been doing for the last 10 years or so, it's just how the charts work because that's how most people listen to music these days
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Post by Rolo on Dec 4, 2020 14:42:17 GMT -5
Really pleased Liam has another Top 40 single in the bag, some achievement.
Off topic here but I had to share it. Robbie Williams' Xmas single everyone..
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Post by tiger40 on Dec 4, 2020 14:45:19 GMT -5
Yeah, they've been adding streaming for a long time now on the top 40. It would be nice if when the vinyl versions are released that they will give the song a boost.
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Post by andycoleoasis on Dec 4, 2020 15:02:09 GMT -5
Really pleased Liam has another Top 40 single in the bag, some achievement. Off topic here but I had to share it. Robbie Williams' Xmas single everyone.. That is utterly appalling haha
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