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Post by lg on Dec 1, 2020 12:27:56 GMT -5
I know I told that I wouldn't comment on this topic again but it's getting ridicoulus so I hope that this will end this discussion once for all. Totally different melody: studio version: he goes up live version: he sang it in a flat way clyp.it/vs0r1got?token=c574daf82bc2f184d1049c5a3776e3c0 |
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Post by andymorris on Dec 1, 2020 12:28:24 GMT -5
Can i post snippets of the Ross live coupled with the studio take ? Like 5 secs of each beginning of a lyric. Is that allowed ? I could do that tomorrow.
With a little delay you can clearly hear its the same take
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Post by uboasis on Dec 1, 2020 12:39:51 GMT -5
Debunking stuff more like. Like a detective. It’s not being offensive or anything just that when I watched it, it struck me as being not live and wanted to be sure. Is that wrong ? No. Claiming its live on social media is a bit though. This world of blind followers is a bit scary. Sure it’s nothing, it’s just Liam Gallagher, but it represents the world we live in now. Be in or be out. No middle ground. No debate, no room for doubt. This is my last comment towards you, andy. Your non stop "detective job" annoys us as hell. I don't care if it's Liam Gallagher or Noel Gallagher or Damon Albarn or whoever might be and if it was live or not, so do others. If somebody thinks it was live, some don't and so it be. It's not a big deal to debate everyday over and over and over... Boring. I'm lurking enjoying this debate. As long as there are no offensive comments please let the debate continue until its natural end. |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Dec 1, 2020 12:41:00 GMT -5
Yeah I think it's live and just post-produced but this is fun
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Post by tomlivesforever on Dec 1, 2020 12:41:42 GMT -5
I know I told that I wouldn't comment on this topic again but it's getting ridicoulus so I hope that this will end this discussion once for all. Totally different melody: studio version: he goes up live version: he sang it in a flat way clyp.it/vs0r1got?token=c574daf82bc2f184d1049c5a3776e3c0Sounds different to me. One of them sounds live! |
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Post by darmin on Dec 1, 2020 12:46:21 GMT -5
I know I told that I wouldn't comment on this topic again but it's getting ridicoulus so I hope that this will end this discussion once for all. Totally different melody: studio version: he goes up live version: he sang it in a flat way clyp.it/vs0r1got?token=c574daf82bc2f184d1049c5a3776e3c0Yeah sounds different. Also his voice sounds strained a bit on high notes. But it’s not gonna stop some ppl here haha |
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Post by andymorris on Dec 1, 2020 12:49:48 GMT -5
I know I told that I wouldn't comment on this topic again but it's getting ridicoulus so I hope that this will end this discussion once for all. Totally different melody: studio version: he goes up live version: he sang it in a flat way clyp.it/vs0r1got?token=c574daf82bc2f184d1049c5a3776e3c0As i said earlier, the Ross version has been stripped off a lot of effects on his voice sped up and maybe pitched a little, to give it a more "live" feel. So it's possible that vocals corrections, whatever they were, were also removed. Listen to the flow of the sung lyric, it's exactly the same. Dont pay attention to tone or notes, but the flow, the pace. |
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Post by lg on Dec 1, 2020 12:54:13 GMT -5
I know I told that I wouldn't comment on this topic again but it's getting ridicoulus so I hope that this will end this discussion once for all. Totally different melody: studio version: he goes up live version: he sang it in a flat way clyp.it/vs0r1got?token=c574daf82bc2f184d1049c5a3776e3c0As i said earlier, the Ross version has been stripped off a lot of effects on his voice sped up and maybe pitched a little, to give it a more "live" feel. So it's possible that vocals corrections, whatever they were, were also removed. Listen to the flow of the sung lyric, it's exactly the same. Dont pay attention to tone or notes, but the flow, the pace. Okay I give up, I'm not interested to continue this conversation, have fun. |
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Post by tomlivesforever on Dec 1, 2020 12:57:02 GMT -5
I know I told that I wouldn't comment on this topic again but it's getting ridicoulus so I hope that this will end this discussion once for all. Totally different melody: studio version: he goes up live version: he sang it in a flat way clyp.it/vs0r1got?token=c574daf82bc2f184d1049c5a3776e3c0As i said earlier, the Ross version has been stripped off a lot of effects on his voice sped up and maybe pitched a little, to give it a more "live" feel. So it's possible that vocals corrections, whatever they were, were also removed. Listen to the flow of the sung lyric, it's exactly the same. Dont pay attention to tone or notes, but the flow, the pace. Aren’t you effectively editing the live version to sound like the studio. |
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Post by daviesh on Dec 1, 2020 12:57:39 GMT -5
Man, some people really need to get laid. Maybe ask Santa nicely?  |
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Post by andymorris on Dec 1, 2020 12:59:56 GMT -5
As i said earlier, the Ross version has been stripped off a lot of effects on his voice sped up and maybe pitched a little, to give it a more "live" feel. So it's possible that vocals corrections, whatever they were, were also removed. Listen to the flow of the sung lyric, it's exactly the same. Dont pay attention to tone or notes, but the flow, the pace. Aren’t you effectively editing the live version to sound like the studio. Not at all. I'm just saying both version are the same, and work has been done to make them sound different. |
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Post by freddy838 on Dec 1, 2020 13:18:41 GMT -5
As i said earlier, the Ross version has been stripped off a lot of effects on his voice sped up and maybe pitched a little, to give it a more "live" feel. So it's possible that vocals corrections, whatever they were, were also removed. Listen to the flow of the sung lyric, it's exactly the same. Dont pay attention to tone or notes, but the flow, the pace. Aren’t you effectively editing the live version to sound like the studio. Wouldn't speeding the song up for Jonathan Ross make his voice go higher as well? It sounds flatter and deeper than the record. I just can't see how anybody could mime that well, I think it was a great performance with some great mixing with a bit of touching up here and there. If there are added words then that has to be the clincher surely. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Dec 1, 2020 13:28:30 GMT -5
Sometimes it’s better not to know how the sausages are made.
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Post by GlastoEls on Dec 1, 2020 13:36:35 GMT -5
Sometimes it’s better not to know how the sausages are made. I’m vegetarian pal. |
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Post by jpjpjp on Dec 1, 2020 13:38:03 GMT -5
This conversation has been enjoyable. My music knowledge is not good enough to understand pitch/tone differences etc. But he definitely adds an extra word in the live performance compared to the studio vocal ........
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Post by darmin on Dec 1, 2020 13:39:23 GMT -5
I know I told that I wouldn't comment on this topic again but it's getting ridicoulus so I hope that this will end this discussion once for all. Totally different melody: studio version: he goes up live version: he sang it in a flat way clyp.it/vs0r1got?token=c574daf82bc2f184d1049c5a3776e3c0As i said earlier, the Ross version has been stripped off a lot of effects on his voice sped up and maybe pitched a little, to give it a more "live" feel. So it's possible that vocals corrections, whatever they were, were also removed. Listen to the flow of the sung lyric, it's exactly the same. Dont pay attention to tone or notes, but the flow, the pace. So it’s the same version if you don’t count added word, different speed, melody, tone... Alrighty then |
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Post by cedomil on Dec 1, 2020 13:55:26 GMT -5
Not the same recording of course, and it's not only the matter of "and" before "take..." The voice sounds different, different mics are used for both recordings...
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Post by Rolo on Dec 1, 2020 14:02:49 GMT -5
The way he over pronounces the end of a sentence shows it's live.. "the world is at it's worsssssstttt" "kisses unrehearsssssssed".. he hisses at the end of the line quite a lot live. Take Wall Of Glass for example, he always does the "Wall of glassssssssssss".
I still can't believe this is being debated.
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Post by tiger40 on Dec 1, 2020 14:04:25 GMT -5
Taking my bad omen to this thread here I'd like to give an update to y'all: Still #1 on Itunes, #150 on Apple Music, #1 on Amazon, Spotify still not updated Waiting for info on the overall chart but it's not sure we're getting anything today It was still number one on the Amazon sales chart yesterday but I haven't checked today yet and I don't know how it's doing on their streaming chart. |
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Dec 1, 2020 14:11:54 GMT -5
If we entertain the idea it's not a live vocal, but we definitely agree it's not a match to studio version, I wonder then if it's a vocal take from the demo?
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Post by tiger40 on Dec 1, 2020 14:16:50 GMT -5
Sometimes it’s better not to know how the sausages are made. I’m vegetarian pal. Me too I just love animals too much to eat them. |
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Post by bestwick8 on Dec 1, 2020 14:21:50 GMT -5
How’s it performing on the charts so far ?
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Post by tomlivesforever on Dec 1, 2020 14:26:44 GMT -5
If we entertain the idea it's not a live vocal, but we definitely agree it's not a match to studio version, I wonder then if it's a vocal take from the demo? To me it’s quite clearly a live take. What Leron posted pretty much confirms it for me. |
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Dec 1, 2020 14:30:22 GMT -5
If we entertain the idea it's not a live vocal, but we definitely agree it's not a match to studio version, I wonder then if it's a vocal take from the demo? To me it’s quite clearly a live take. What Leron posted pretty much confirms it for me. What are your thoughts on the Shazam match? |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Dec 1, 2020 14:41:40 GMT -5
How’s it performing on the charts so far ? Going super strong on downloads, not as well on streaming services but compared to similar artists he's holding his own (he's in the 150-200 range) Sitting at #12 in yesterday's chart update, we're getting nothing today but new info may come out tomorrow I assume it'll slide a bit more but hopefully it can stay in the top 40 |
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