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Post by The Goose on Nov 30, 2020 6:03:09 GMT -5
He’s currently upto 74 on the Amazon music streaming chart
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Post by andymorris on Nov 30, 2020 6:06:19 GMT -5
Oh my God! Again with this playback thing? Liam sang LIVE! He rested for months and months, even switched mics if you didn't notice, and the sound engineers did a great job. It he sang live because in high key moments it is slightly raucous than the studio version. And then Liam can't sync properly when he sings in playback (see Sanremo 2000 and Let There be love 2005 and Top Of The Pops 2005) ... So please stop this bullshit and be happy for this further vocal resurrection of Liam! Yeah he's improved grandly, but this is not live, sorry. Oasis did countless tops of the pops or tv not live, so it's nothing new.
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Post by Diamond in The Dark on Nov 30, 2020 6:12:54 GMT -5
He sang LIVE both in the audio broadcast by bbc radio 2 and by Jonathan Ross. Don't be deniers.
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Post by andymorris on Nov 30, 2020 8:21:59 GMT -5
He sang LIVE both in the audio broadcast by bbc radio 2 and by Jonathan Ross. Don't be deniers. Sorry mate the studio version and jonathan ross versions are identical, cept the "Live" one has been sped up approx 0.5x and trimmed from all the studio effect, to give it a more live feel. I could upload the simple garageband comparision with one on the left and the other on the right but since this is copyright material, i cant. I took the lyric video and the Ross live from Youtube, they are the same.
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Post by Diamond in The Dark on Nov 30, 2020 9:17:08 GMT -5
He sang LIVE both in the audio broadcast by bbc radio 2 and by Jonathan Ross. Don't be deniers. Sorry mate the studio version and jonathan ross versions are identical, cept the "Live" one has been sped up approx 0.5x and trimmed from all the studio effect, to give it a more live feel. I could upload the simple garageband comparision with one on the left and the other on the right but since this is copyright material, i cant. I took the lyric video and the Ross live from Youtube, they are the same. Listen friend. Him sing live: 1) Liam is in top form because he has been out since late February 2) The lip corresponds to perfection with the words it says (and in playback it was never precise) 3) look at the expression in his eyes when he sings the high notes, it exactly matches the effort a man is trying to hold his real voice on some high notes 4) If Liam is at on top form, it is absolutely normal that his performance is close to that in the studio, because it is always he who sings and not an artificial robot. Many people with easily "tricky" ears unfortunately fail to grasp these nuances, because Liam rarely achieved this vocal health in post 2001 and we are not used to seeing him so well 5) his engineer worked as he should always work
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Post by andymorris on Nov 30, 2020 9:19:20 GMT -5
Sorry mate the studio version and jonathan ross versions are identical, cept the "Live" one has been sped up approx 0.5x and trimmed from all the studio effect, to give it a more live feel. I could upload the simple garageband comparision with one on the left and the other on the right but since this is copyright material, i cant. I took the lyric video and the Ross live from Youtube, they are the same. Listen friend. Him sing live: 1) Liam is in top form because he has been out since late February 2) The lip corresponds to perfection with the words it says (and in playback it was never precise) 3) look at the expression in his eyes when he sings the high notes, it exactly matches the effort a man is trying to hold his real voice on some high notes 4) If Liam is at the top, it is absolutely normal that his performance is close to that in the studio, because it is always he who sings and not an artificial robot. Many people with easily "tricky" ears unfortunately fail to grasp these nuances, because Liam rarely achieved this vocal health in post 2001 and we are not used to seeing him so well 5) his engineer worked as he should always work Mate this is not proof, this is interpretation and opinion. Files dont lie. I wasn't entirely convinced until i ran both files next to one another. They are the same.
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Post by Diamond in The Dark on Nov 30, 2020 9:24:29 GMT -5
Listen friend. Him sing live: 1) Liam is in top form because he has been out since late February 2) The lip corresponds to perfection with the words it says (and in playback it was never precise) 3) look at the expression in his eyes when he sings the high notes, it exactly matches the effort a man is trying to hold his real voice on some high notes 4) If Liam is at the top, it is absolutely normal that his performance is close to that in the studio, because it is always he who sings and not an artificial robot. Many people with easily "tricky" ears unfortunately fail to grasp these nuances, because Liam rarely achieved this vocal health in post 2001 and we are not used to seeing him so well 5) his engineer worked as he should always work Mate this is not proof, this is interpretation and opinion. Files dont lie. I wasn't entirely convinced until i ran both files next to one another. They are the same. it is normal that his voice is faithful to the studio track. Liam will have scrutinized and tried it again and again to make a good impression and promote the single
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Post by mimmihopps on Nov 30, 2020 9:33:11 GMT -5
What about to stop arguing he sung live, no he didn't, yes, he did, no he didn't and just enjoy the music? It's always same story and same people. It's getting boring.
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Post by El Auténtico Dios on Nov 30, 2020 9:36:30 GMT -5
He sang LIVE both in the audio broadcast by bbc radio 2 and by Jonathan Ross. Don't be deniers. Sorry mate the studio version and jonathan ross versions are identical, cept the "Live" one has been sped up approx 0.5x and trimmed from all the studio effect, to give it a more live feel. I could upload the simple garageband comparision with one on the left and the other on the right but since this is copyright material, i cant. I took the lyric video and the Ross live from Youtube, they are the same. Paranoia, go rest.
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Post by Rolo on Nov 30, 2020 9:51:21 GMT -5
He sang LIVE both in the audio broadcast by bbc radio 2 and by Jonathan Ross. Don't be deniers. Sorry mate the studio version and jonathan ross versions are identical, cept the "Live" one has been sped up approx 0.5x and trimmed from all the studio effect, to give it a more live feel. I could upload the simple garageband comparision with one on the left and the other on the right but since this is copyright material, i cant. I took the lyric video and the Ross live from Youtube, they are the same. Jesus Christ.
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Post by Flashbax on Nov 30, 2020 9:53:02 GMT -5
I don't Liam wasn't even in the studio. I think Noel sung this at Jonathan Ross.
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Post by durk on Nov 30, 2020 10:14:49 GMT -5
Liam was on the Grassy Noel
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Post by andymorris on Nov 30, 2020 10:26:10 GMT -5
So this what it feels like talking to a Trump supporter I guess. Wow.
File is available to whoever interested.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Nov 30, 2020 10:36:45 GMT -5
Andy was sat on his sofa last night with his boxers round his ankles and pot of Vaseline waiting for Liam to fuck it up so he could have the omega wank he’d been dreaming of. Sadly for Andy that didn’t happen. Now behold his rage 😂 Dude it's too easy at this stage. Stop. The. Obsession. You.will.never.have.me. The full stops suggest otherwise 😂
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Post by darmin on Nov 30, 2020 10:37:32 GMT -5
Why there are no the AYDO vynils on Amazon? I wanted to order one w some other items but I still can’t
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 30, 2020 11:30:11 GMT -5
Forget if the vocals were live or studio, that was a fucking hologram to begin with! It briefly flickers at 2:34.
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Post by defmaybe00 on Nov 30, 2020 11:42:41 GMT -5
#15 in today's chart update
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Post by Bellboy on Nov 30, 2020 12:11:07 GMT -5
Why there are no the AYDO vynils on Amazon? I wanted to order one w some other items but I still can’t It's still available to pre-order on Amazon and on his own site too. Pre-order only but is there.
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Post by 2nz on Nov 30, 2020 12:42:11 GMT -5
Nice wee segue-way into whogivesafucksville there with the live/not live stuff.
Anyway-
For some reason, I keep getting All You're Dreaming of mixed up with this, from the Divine Comedy:
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Post by tiger40 on Nov 30, 2020 14:59:01 GMT -5
It's still at number one on the Amazon sales charts.
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Post by neila83 on Nov 30, 2020 15:30:05 GMT -5
It's a nice little song, you don't get many old fashioned Christmas songs anymore so nice to have.
Can't believe anyone thought he was singing live. It's obvious he's not, the best singer in the world can't replicate their studio takes to the exact note. I wouldn't want this to be live because it'd mean they're auto-tuning the fuck out of his live voice, since there are parts that are clearly covered in effects.
My only complaint is the usual one, and the reason you won't hear this live much, this strange insistence on writing songs way out of his comfortable pitch. He sounds incredibly odd at times with all the auto-tuning going on, and just doesn't sound like Liam. All his power is lost and it goes a bit squeaky at times.
I suppose the marketing guys have figured out this is the pitch range where the highest selling songs are, sigh.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Nov 30, 2020 15:47:50 GMT -5
It's a nice little song, you don't get many old fashioned Christmas songs anymore so nice to have. Can't believe anyone thought he was singing live. It's obvious he's not, the best singer in the world can't replicate their studio takes to the exact note. I wouldn't want this to be live because it'd mean they're auto-tuning the fuck out of his live voice, since there are parts that are clearly covered in effects. My only complaint is the usual one, and the reason you won't hear this live much, this strange insistence on writing songs way out of his comfortable pitch. He sounds incredibly odd at times with all the auto-tuning going on, and just doesn't sound like Liam. All his power is lost and it goes a bit squeaky at times. I suppose the marketing guys have figured out this is the pitch range where the highest selling songs are, sigh. Can you prove any of that?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2020 16:08:03 GMT -5
It's a nice little song, you don't get many old fashioned Christmas songs anymore so nice to have. Can't believe anyone thought he was singing live. It's obvious he's not, the best singer in the world can't replicate their studio takes to the exact note. I wouldn't want this to be live because it'd mean they're auto-tuning the fuck out of his live voice, since there are parts that are clearly covered in effects. My only complaint is the usual one, and the reason you won't hear this live much, this strange insistence on writing songs way out of his comfortable pitch. He sounds incredibly odd at times with all the auto-tuning going on, and just doesn't sound like Liam. All his power is lost and it goes a bit squeaky at times. I suppose the marketing guys have figured out this is the pitch range where the highest selling songs are, sigh. Can you prove any of that? I think they're at least partly right tbh. I'm sure I've seen a Warner Music press release somewhere that talked about him singing high, which seemed weird at the time. I'm absolutely convinced the songs on WMWN were kept as close to 3:30 as possible for Spotify etc.
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Post by lg on Nov 30, 2020 16:17:19 GMT -5
I don't wanna insult anyone so I'll try to be as polite as I can but for God sake I'm tired of these comments. It wasn't playback, it's so clear, you just have to use the balls you have in your face *spoiler, they're called EYES* and watch his mouth while hearing his voice. Autotune? Do you even know what it is? It's so easy to say whatever you want these days but people should check their facts.
P.s. If any of you thinks that it was playback and it was the same take they used for studio version I've got a bad news for you, go see a doctor because your ears don't work as they should. I won't comment again on this topic because it's really getting boring.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Nov 30, 2020 16:19:31 GMT -5
Can you prove any of that? I think they're at least partly right tbh. I'm sure I've seen a Warner Music press release somewhere that talked about him singing high, which seemed weird at the time. I'm absolutely convinced the songs on WMWN were kept as close to 3:30 as possible for Spotify etc. I’m happy to take any of it on board if there’s is something to back it up. But the whole presenting ones opinion as fact in a world where Donald Trump and flat earthers exist doesn’t really cut it for me. If he can show that he didn’t sing it live then by all means show the people.
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