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Post by Lennon2217 on Apr 14, 2020 11:32:36 GMT -5
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Post by Lennon2217 on Apr 14, 2020 11:34:31 GMT -5
Potential snippets teased over the last few weeks..................
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Post by World71R on Apr 15, 2020 17:34:09 GMT -5
Potential snippets teased over the last few weeks.................. These clips sound awesome. It almost makes me forget that Infinite Content was an actual freaking song they did; what trash that song is  |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Apr 15, 2020 17:47:40 GMT -5
Potential snippets teased over the last few weeks.................. These clips sound awesome. It almost makes me forget that Infinite Content was an actual freaking song they did; what trash that song is They most certainly lost their way on the last go around. The band even admits that. Especially their album roll out with the fake news, meta commentary and bots. Was not a good choice and turned a lot of people away. Also that coast to coast arena tour was ill advised. They barely sold out any of those shows. Awkward. |
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Post by World71R on Apr 15, 2020 17:58:30 GMT -5
These clips sound awesome. It almost makes me forget that Infinite Content was an actual freaking song they did; what trash that song is They most certainly lost their way on the last go around. The band even admits that. Especially their album roll out with the fake news, meta commentary and bots. Was not a good choice and turned a lot of people away. Also that coast to coast arena tour was ill advised. They barely sold out any of those shows. Awkward. All this, plus the boxing ring-like setup that had in some instances, reminded me of PopMart. It was commercial in a highly ironic way that got the best of the band and backfired them to a point where people turned away and stopped attending shows, even though there are some very good songs that make it worth listening to. Signs of Life is a lot better than I remember, plus Everything Now, Creature Comfort, and Put Your Money on Me are worth going back to (PYMOM might just be one of their best imo). Some of the interlude tracks kinda kill it though. It becomes less about the songs and more about the fluff around it which, I guess, is the point but damn there's other ways of getting such a point across. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Apr 15, 2020 18:03:01 GMT -5
They most certainly lost their way on the last go around. The band even admits that. Especially their album roll out with the fake news, meta commentary and bots. Was not a good choice and turned a lot of people away. Also that coast to coast arena tour was ill advised. They barely sold out any of those shows. Awkward. All this, plus the boxing ring-like setup that had in some instances, reminded me of PopMart. It was commercial in a highly ironic way that got the best of the band and backfired them to a point where people turned away and stopped attending shows, even though there are some very good songs that make it worth listening to. Signs of Life is a lot better than I remember, plus Everything Now, Creature Comfort, and Put Your Money on Me are worth going back to (PYMOM might just be one of their best imo). Some of the interlude tracks kinda kill it though. It becomes less about the songs and more about the fluff around it which, I guess, is the point but damn there's other ways of getting such a point across. I hate to say the next album will be a "back to basics" type release but I definitely know the campaign behind it will be more direct. Less tomfooleries. Based on Win's posts, it seems like the band is eager to prove everyone wrong.  |
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Post by The Escapist on Apr 16, 2020 6:46:53 GMT -5
Everything Now was good.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Apr 16, 2020 7:41:33 GMT -5
The individual track for sure, not many will agree on the album. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2020 7:45:10 GMT -5
The individual track for sure, not many will agree on the album. I think the title song was one of the worst on the album tbh. |
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Post by oasisserbia on Apr 16, 2020 7:51:06 GMT -5
I think they will never return to full form and make great record again but let'see.
It's already ten years since their last really fucking great record, Reflektor was good also, but it's also 7 years old already. Win is 40 already, Regine 43...
It's hard to expect much from them but again, it's not their fault, it's time for new, young guys and girls.
I think that we will getting 7/10 records from them from now on, let's hope I'm wrong.
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Post by oasisserbia on Apr 16, 2020 8:00:09 GMT -5
And one more band that, in my opinion, wasted their potential. Five albums since 2004, it's pathetic. And I'm sure if they made some quick albums when they were in their prime, it would be better than Everything Now and most of their future albums. It's such shame that almost all these ,,new bands" wasted their prime years. I miss those days when Stones and Beatles had one or even two records every year. I mean, I don't miss them, I wasn't born then :-) But you know, I think that's the way how it should be. Yeah, some songs were shit, even some albums were, but when you look back, I am glad that we have all that material and McCartney's worst song from his prime years is better than his best songs now.
Same thing with Arcade Fire.
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Post by The Escapist on Apr 16, 2020 9:57:04 GMT -5
The individual track for sure, not many will agree on the album. That's alright, they're all entitled to their wrong opinion. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Apr 16, 2020 11:18:23 GMT -5
The individual track for sure, not many will agree on the album. That's alright, they're all entitled to their wrong opinion. Wrong side of history. The narrative of this album won't change. Its been cemented. Doesn't help that the band even agrees with the criticism. Much like Be Here Now, X&Y, First Impressions of Earth, Second Coming, Congratulations, etc, these are fairly or unfairly labeled letdowns and have stayed that way despite the stans that rally behind them. It is what it is. For me "Everything Now" is the first Chink in one's armor for Arcade Fire. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Apr 16, 2020 11:22:07 GMT -5
And one more band that, in my opinion, wasted their potential. Five albums since 2004, it's pathetic. And I'm sure if they made some quick albums when they were in their prime, it would be better than Everything Now and most of their future albums. It's such shame that almost all these ,,new bands" wasted their prime years. I miss those days when Stones and Beatles had one or even two records every year. I mean, I don't miss them, I wasn't born then :-) But you know, I think that's the way how it should be. Yeah, some songs were shit, even some albums were, but when you look back, I am glad that we have all that material and McCartney's worst song from his prime years is better than his best songs now. Same thing with Arcade Fire. Huh? Between 2004 and 2010 Arcade Fire dropped 3 albums. Funeral is considered a masterpiece, Neon Bible is also highly regarded and had a tremendously hyped tour and The Suburbs won Album of the Year at the Grammys. Nobody expected or thought that was possible. Also a masterpiece album. Those years are their PEAK years. A band in their mid 20 to late 20s rocking out classics. In 2013 they were even nominated for an Oscar. Not sure what more you wanted? |
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Post by The Escapist on Apr 16, 2020 11:48:50 GMT -5
That's alright, they're all entitled to their wrong opinion. The narrative of this album won't change. Its been cemented. Doesn't help that the band even agrees with the criticism. Much like Be Here Now, X&Y, First Impressions of Earth, Second Coming, Congratulations, etc, these are fairly or unfairly labeled letdowns and have stayed that way despite the stans that rally behind them. It is what it is. For me "Everything Now" is the first Chink in one's armor for Arcade Fire. It's not the Iraq War, la, it's a pop album. Good one, too. Put Your Money on Me - what a tune! |
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Post by oasisserbia on Apr 16, 2020 13:12:36 GMT -5
And one more band that, in my opinion, wasted their potential. Five albums since 2004, it's pathetic. And I'm sure if they made some quick albums when they were in their prime, it would be better than Everything Now and most of their future albums. It's such shame that almost all these ,,new bands" wasted their prime years. I miss those days when Stones and Beatles had one or even two records every year. I mean, I don't miss them, I wasn't born then :-) But you know, I think that's the way how it should be. Yeah, some songs were shit, even some albums were, but when you look back, I am glad that we have all that material and McCartney's worst song from his prime years is better than his best songs now. Same thing with Arcade Fire. Huh? Between 2004 and 2010 Arcade Fire dropped 3 albums. Funeral is considered a masterpiece, Neon Bible is also highly regarded and had a tremendously hyped tour and The Suburbs won Album of the Year at the Grammys. Nobody expected or thought that was possible. Also a masterpiece album. Those years are their PEAK years. A band in their mid 20 to late 20s rocking out classics. In 2013 they were even nominated for an Oscar. Not sure what more you wanted? Well, that's the thing - 3 albums in their prime years. Even Oasis with all the shit going on, fights, members leaving band, ups and downs, drugs addictions and quitting drugs...managed to record four albums from 1994 to 2000. And let's not talk about what Beatles did from 1963-1970. Or Bowie, Dylan, Stones... And soon you are almost 40 and you recording songs like Infinite Content. I think that they were capable to record at least 7 albums from 2004-2013, not all of them would be masterpieces but they would definitely be better than Everything Now. I believe that they were capable, in 2008 for example, to take 10 days off and write and record better album than Everything now. It's not only problem with them, almost every ''new'' band doesn't have that work ethic that old musicians had. Compare Bowie's eight years from 1970-1977 to their eight years from 2004-2010. You make great, then maybe one not so great, than you keep pushing, record another one, little better than previous, then you find formula again and record masterpiece again... And in the end, you have huge discography and you can always find something great even on some shit albums. And there is always some magic in your songs when you are in your prime years and can't repeat that again. I still enjoy songs like Bonehead's Bank Holiday, Round Are Way, D'Yer Wanna Be A Spaceman...more than The Man Who Built The Moon and songs like that. In the end, it turns out that even when you were taking piss in your prime years and recording some songs that you thought that were shit or nothing special and you didn't even put too much effort or time in studio when you were recording them, they turn out to be better than songs that you were writing with so much effort and spend so much time in studio to perfectly record them but you were old and you lost it... |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Apr 16, 2020 14:42:33 GMT -5
Huh? Between 2004 and 2010 Arcade Fire dropped 3 albums. Funeral is considered a masterpiece, Neon Bible is also highly regarded and had a tremendously hyped tour and The Suburbs won Album of the Year at the Grammys. Nobody expected or thought that was possible. Also a masterpiece album. Those years are their PEAK years. A band in their mid 20 to late 20s rocking out classics. In 2013 they were even nominated for an Oscar. Not sure what more you wanted? Well, that's the thing - 3 albums in their prime years. Even Oasis with all the shit going on, fights, members leaving band, ups and downs, drugs addictions and quitting drugs...managed to record four albums from 1994 to 2000. And let's not talk about what Beatles did from 1963-1970. Or Bowie, Dylan, Stones... And soon you are almost 40 and you recording songs like Infinite Content. I think that they were capable to record at least 7 albums from 2004-2013, not all of them would be masterpieces but they would definitely be better than Everything Now. I believe that they were capable, in 2008 for example, to take 10 days off and write and record better album than Everything now. It's not only problem with them, almost every ''new'' band doesn't have that work ethic that old musicians had. Compare Bowie's eight years from 1970-1977 to their eight years from 2004-2010. You make great, then maybe one not so great, than you keep pushing, record another one, little better than previous, then you find formula again and record masterpiece again... And in the end, you have huge discography and you can always find something great even on some shit albums. And there is always some magic in your songs when you are in your prime years and can't repeat that again. I still enjoy songs like Bonehead's Bank Holiday, Round Are Way, D'Yer Wanna Be A Spaceman...more than The Man Who Built The Moon and songs like that. In the end, it turns out that even when you were taking piss in your prime years and recording some songs that you thought that were shit or nothing special and you didn't even put too much effort or time in studio when you were recording them, they turn out to be better than songs that you were writing with so much effort and spend so much time in studio to perfectly record them but you were old and you lost it... It’s really not fair to compare modern day bands with ones from 40-55 years ago. Different era. Different record company mentality. What other current bands are doing what you wanted Arcade Fire to do? I mean really who is or had put out that much quality in a short amount of time??? AF basically dropped 3 albums in 5.3 years. Two of them masterpieces. Jump for joy for Oasis releasing 4 albums in 6 years. Two of those were trashed by the press and fans. I wouldn’t hang your hat on that. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Apr 16, 2020 14:43:29 GMT -5
Wrong side of history. The narrative of this album won't change. Its been cemented. Doesn't help that the band even agrees with the criticism. Much like Be Here Now, X&Y, First Impressions of Earth, Second Coming, Congratulations, etc, these are fairly or unfairly labeled letdowns and have stayed that way despite the stans that rally behind them. It is what it is. For me "Everything Now" is the first Chink in one's armor for Arcade Fire. It's not the Iraq War, la, it's a pop album. Good one, too. Put Your Money on Me - what a tune! Nobody ever disputed that. It’s the soggy middle that sinks the project. |
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Post by oasisserbia on Apr 16, 2020 15:43:17 GMT -5
Well, that's the thing - 3 albums in their prime years. Even Oasis with all the shit going on, fights, members leaving band, ups and downs, drugs addictions and quitting drugs...managed to record four albums from 1994 to 2000. And let's not talk about what Beatles did from 1963-1970. Or Bowie, Dylan, Stones... And soon you are almost 40 and you recording songs like Infinite Content. I think that they were capable to record at least 7 albums from 2004-2013, not all of them would be masterpieces but they would definitely be better than Everything Now. I believe that they were capable, in 2008 for example, to take 10 days off and write and record better album than Everything now. It's not only problem with them, almost every ''new'' band doesn't have that work ethic that old musicians had. Compare Bowie's eight years from 1970-1977 to their eight years from 2004-2010. You make great, then maybe one not so great, than you keep pushing, record another one, little better than previous, then you find formula again and record masterpiece again... And in the end, you have huge discography and you can always find something great even on some shit albums. And there is always some magic in your songs when you are in your prime years and can't repeat that again. I still enjoy songs like Bonehead's Bank Holiday, Round Are Way, D'Yer Wanna Be A Spaceman...more than The Man Who Built The Moon and songs like that. In the end, it turns out that even when you were taking piss in your prime years and recording some songs that you thought that were shit or nothing special and you didn't even put too much effort or time in studio when you were recording them, they turn out to be better than songs that you were writing with so much effort and spend so much time in studio to perfectly record them but you were old and you lost it... It’s really not fair to compare modern day bands with ones from 40-55 years ago. Different era. Different record company mentality. What other current bands are doing what you wanted Arcade Fire to do? I mean really who is or had put out that much quality in a short amount of time??? AF basically dropped 3 albums in 5.3 years. Two of them masterpieces. Jump for joy for Oasis releasing 4 albums in 6 years. Two of those were trashed by the press and fans. I wouldn’t hang your hat on that. I ''hate'' almost every new band because of that and I think that is one of the reasons why music is not as good as it was. Damon seems like one the few who gets that and he is awarded because of it. And I think that he will be respected more and more in future and that he is absolute winner and ahead of all those hyped songwriters as Noel, Cobain, Yorke, Martin, Turner, Butler, White, Parker... |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2020 15:46:40 GMT -5
Well, that's the thing - 3 albums in their prime years. Even Oasis with all the shit going on, fights, members leaving band, ups and downs, drugs addictions and quitting drugs...managed to record four albums from 1994 to 2000. And let's not talk about what Beatles did from 1963-1970. Or Bowie, Dylan, Stones... And soon you are almost 40 and you recording songs like Infinite Content. I think that they were capable to record at least 7 albums from 2004-2013, not all of them would be masterpieces but they would definitely be better than Everything Now. I believe that they were capable, in 2008 for example, to take 10 days off and write and record better album than Everything now. It's not only problem with them, almost every ''new'' band doesn't have that work ethic that old musicians had. Compare Bowie's eight years from 1970-1977 to their eight years from 2004-2010. You make great, then maybe one not so great, than you keep pushing, record another one, little better than previous, then you find formula again and record masterpiece again... And in the end, you have huge discography and you can always find something great even on some shit albums. And there is always some magic in your songs when you are in your prime years and can't repeat that again. I still enjoy songs like Bonehead's Bank Holiday, Round Are Way, D'Yer Wanna Be A Spaceman...more than The Man Who Built The Moon and songs like that. In the end, it turns out that even when you were taking piss in your prime years and recording some songs that you thought that were shit or nothing special and you didn't even put too much effort or time in studio when you were recording them, they turn out to be better than songs that you were writing with so much effort and spend so much time in studio to perfectly record them but you were old and you lost it... It’s really not fair to compare modern day bands with ones from 40-55 years ago. Different era. Different record company mentality. What other current bands are doing what you wanted Arcade Fire to do? I mean really who is or had put out that much quality in a short amount of time??? AF basically dropped 3 albums in 5.3 years. Two of them masterpieces. Jump for joy for Oasis releasing 4 albums in 6 years. Two of those were trashed by the press and fans. I wouldn’t hang your hat on that. You know some people even trash first two Oasis albums... I agree with oasisserbia, Arcade Fire prime is behind them. That doesn't mean everything they will release is gonna be mediocre (they are incredible musicians after all) but the intensity of "Funeral" and "Neon Bible" will be hard to top. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2020 15:56:25 GMT -5
It’s really not fair to compare modern day bands with ones from 40-55 years ago. Different era. Different record company mentality. What other current bands are doing what you wanted Arcade Fire to do? I mean really who is or had put out that much quality in a short amount of time??? AF basically dropped 3 albums in 5.3 years. Two of them masterpieces. Jump for joy for Oasis releasing 4 albums in 6 years. Two of those were trashed by the press and fans. I wouldn’t hang your hat on that. I ''hate'' almost every new band because of that and I think that is one of the reasons why music is not as good as it was. Damon seems like one the few who gets that and he is awarded because of it. And I think that he will be respected more and more in future and that he is absolute winner and ahead of all those hyped songwriters as Noel, Cobain, Yorke, Martin, Turner, Butler, White, Parker... Albarn is a great musician but as songwriters I think Noel, Cobain, Yorke and Butler are superior. Their songs are more profound, their melodies more intense. And they all released at least a masterpiece in their career, a thing I think Albarn didn't do. I don't think Blur or Gorillaz had an album as cohesive and amazing as "Ok Computer" or "Funeral", for instance. |
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Post by Manualex on Apr 16, 2020 16:00:55 GMT -5
It’s really not fair to compare modern day bands with ones from 40-55 years ago. Different era. Different record company mentality. What other current bands are doing what you wanted Arcade Fire to do? I mean really who is or had put out that much quality in a short amount of time??? AF basically dropped 3 albums in 5.3 years. Two of them masterpieces. Jump for joy for Oasis releasing 4 albums in 6 years. Two of those were trashed by the press and fans. I wouldn’t hang your hat on that. I ''hate'' almost every new band because of that and I think that is one of the reasons why music is not as good as it was. Damon seems like one the few who gets that and he is awarded because of it. And I think that he will be respected more and more in future and that he is absolute winner and ahead of all those hyped songwriters as Noel, Cobain, Yorke, Martin, Turner, Butler, White, Parker... Not everyone can be like John Frusciante or Kong Gizzard and release 6 albums in 6 months |
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Post by Manualex on Apr 16, 2020 16:15:47 GMT -5
The last Arcade Fire album left me cold. Album? I only heard a few singles and then nothing. Very unlike them to tour with a bunch of singles but no album. 😝 |
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Post by matt on Apr 16, 2020 16:38:19 GMT -5
I really like it, I think it was massively underrated. Not a classic by their own high standards and it is their weakest but it’s partly misunderstood, partly underrated and overly criticised. It just didn’t meet high expectations that’s all - great songs but nothing iconic or grand like previous albums, but it’s still one of my favourite albums from 2017. It’s a really good album, just not a timeless classic. I put it in the same bracket as U2’s Pop.
If Funeral/Suburbs/Reflektor are Raiders of the Lost Ark, Everything Now is Temple of Doom (Neon Bible is Last Crusade). It certainly ain’t Kingdom Of Crystal Skull like many seem to think.
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Post by oasisserbia on Apr 16, 2020 16:51:52 GMT -5
They wrote 10 songs from 2013 to 2017, and Infinite Content is one of those 10 songs. No excuse.
And if only that was the only bad song...
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