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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2020 21:36:54 GMT -5
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Post by Jessica on May 10, 2020 23:38:27 GMT -5
Ugh, the press are going to have a field day with Matt bringing up Liam's weight. He's had enough in the last week already.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2020 1:34:54 GMT -5
Ugh, the press are going to have a field day with Matt bringing up Liam's weight. He's had enough in the last week already. Thanks for the warning, I won't be listening it then. It has felt awkward before when he has asked about Liam or Paul (Gallagher). Feels like he wants a reaction from Noel, and hopes it'll get some press for his podcast (that he has been getting with the story about Noel's "hollywood friend"). Something creepy about that Matt Morgan. |
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Post by Teotihuacan on May 11, 2020 3:11:56 GMT -5
they talk about Wonderwall and how Noel thought it was a nothing song until everyone who heard the finished recording said it was going to be huge. He even admitted that he wished he had gone back and done more work on it to make it more "finished" Wonderwall got put into that number 3 place on WTSMG in the running order: a key position like Live Forever on DM, (forget about Magic Pie in this theory). Plus there's loads of overdubs and a considered arrangement so it wasn't like Wonderwall was tossed off. The lyrics of Wonderwall (and other MG songs) could've used more work I guess, but their vagueness is kind of appealing to a wide audience, you can read in a variety of meanings, i.e. as Noel points out, like Live Forever, Wonderwall could be a love song but also sung to a best friend or parental figure. |
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Post by Jessica on May 11, 2020 3:16:28 GMT -5
Thanks for the warning, I won't be listening it then. It has felt awkward before when he has asked about Liam or Paul (Gallagher). Feels like he wants a reaction from Noel, and hopes it'll get some press for his podcast (that he has been getting with the story about Noel's "hollywood friend"). Something creepy about that Matt Morgan. To be fair, Matt said he thought he was going to ask for it to be edited out. But yeah, I did see those headlines about the last episode the other day. They make news about anything, even if it's like a brief mention like this. If it's not going to be about that, they're going to be about the first time he met Paul McCartney, Morrissey's comment about Oasis being the rut of the litter, or that he's finally getting into The Beach Boys. That and maybe that he got stopped by the police twice and told them about the paparazzi.  |
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Post by The Escapist on May 11, 2020 3:24:40 GMT -5
Ugh, the press are going to have a field day with Matt bringing up Liam's weight. He's had enough in the last week already. Thanks for the warning, I won't be listening it then. It has felt awkward before when he has asked about Liam or Paul (Gallagher). Feels like he wants a reaction from Noel, and hopes it'll get some press for his podcast (that he has been getting with the story about Noel's "hollywood friend"). Something creepy about that Matt Morgan.Matt Morgan once walked past a woman who always asked him "How you doing?" when she saw him at work. They walked towards each other, Matt looked at her, the woman looked up, she didn't say anything, and without any prompt Mister Morgan declared "Not too bad!". Then they continued walking and the incident was never spoken of again. |
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Post by balloonless on May 11, 2020 4:01:35 GMT -5
Noel claiming that Kurt C liked DM... despite it being released after he killed himself
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Post by oasisunited on May 11, 2020 6:42:29 GMT -5
they talk about Wonderwall and how Noel thought it was a nothing song until everyone who heard the finished recording said it was going to be huge. He even admitted that he wished he had gone back and done more work on it to make it more "finished" Wonderwall got put into that number 3 place on WTSMG in the running order: a key position like Live Forever on DM, (forget about Magic Pie in this theory). Plus there's loads of overdubs and a considered arrangement so it wasn't like Wonderwall was tossed off. The lyrics of Wonderwall (and other MG songs) could've used more work I guess, but their vagueness is kind of appealing to a wide audience, you can read in a variety of meanings, i.e. as Noel points out, like Live Forever, Wonderwall could be a love song but also sung to a best friend or parental figure. I believe that Noel was really referring to spending more time on the arrangement/recording of it, not the song's composition itself. The discussion comes right after his statement that WTSMG is basically a collection of demos, so I interpreted his comments about Wonderwall in that context. |
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on May 11, 2020 10:46:50 GMT -5
Noel claiming that Kurt C liked DM... despite it being released after he killed himself He really does talk a lot of bullshit - haha. Unfortunately Kurt killed himself a week before the band's first single was released so the chances of him ever hearing anything Oasis is basically zilch. |
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Post by drummert5 on May 11, 2020 11:04:31 GMT -5
I believe that Noel was really referring to spending more time on the arrangement/recording of it, not the song's composition itself. The discussion comes right after his statement that WTSMG is basically a collection of demos, so I interpreted his comments about Wonderwall in that context. Thank goodness they didn’t overthink WTSMG back in the day. |
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Post by oasisunited on May 11, 2020 11:11:16 GMT -5
I believe that Noel was really referring to spending more time on the arrangement/recording of it, not the song's composition itself. The discussion comes right after his statement that WTSMG is basically a collection of demos, so I interpreted his comments about Wonderwall in that context. Thank goodness they didn’t overthink WTSMG back in the day. They did, though. It's called "Be Here Now"  |
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Post by oasisunited on May 11, 2020 12:27:03 GMT -5
Noel claiming that Kurt C liked DM... despite it being released after he killed himself He really does talk a lot of bullshit - haha. Unfortunately Kurt killed himself a week before the band's first single was released so the chances of him ever hearing anything Oasis is basically zilch. You can tell that Noel was a bit caught off guard when Matt challenged that assertion. That whole exchange seemed like someone at some point told that "fact" about Kurt to Noel (possible that it was Kurt's daughter who is a fan of Oasis) and Noel being Noel liked that, despite saying he doesn't like praise in that podcast. At best, Kurt may have seen them live or heard of them while touring the UK, but Matt (and The Crimson Rambler ) is right on this. I'm pretty sure that the test pressing of DM was made around May 1994 so the mixing of DM may not have even been completed by the time Kurt died in April, 1994, so we can't even say that he heard an advanced copy before his death. |
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on May 11, 2020 13:06:30 GMT -5
He really does talk a lot of bullshit - haha. Unfortunately Kurt killed himself a week before the band's first single was released so the chances of him ever hearing anything Oasis is basically zilch. You can tell that Noel was a bit caught off guard when Matt challenged that assertion. That whole exchange seemed like someone at some point told that "fact" about Kurt to Noel (possible that it was Kurt's daughter who is a fan of Oasis) and Noel being Noel liked that, despite saying he doesn't like praise in that podcast. At best, Kurt may have seen them live or heard of them while touring the UK, but Matt (and The Crimson Rambler ) is right on this. I'm pretty sure that the test pressing of DM was made around May 1994 so the mixing of DM may not have even been completed by the time Kurt died in April, 1994, so we can't even say that he heard an advanced copy before his death. Yeah he definitely was wasn't he. What did they have out by Kurt's death (5 Apr 1994)? A small number of demo tapes, a white label promo single, a couple of radio sessions and maybe a few little things being passed around Creation and the sort. I don't think they had any mutual ties in the music world at that point either. It just didn't happen. Almost impossible I'd say. I thought Noel's list of reasons as to why he and Kurt probably would've got on was laughably lame. The fact that they're both left handed, have blue eyes and are both Gemini's or something. Fuck me, it was like listening to a teenage girl. I'd like to think he was taking the piss but I don't think he was! |
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Post by lalaland on May 11, 2020 15:14:46 GMT -5
You can tell that Noel was a bit caught off guard when Matt challenged that assertion. That whole exchange seemed like someone at some point told that "fact" about Kurt to Noel (possible that it was Kurt's daughter who is a fan of Oasis) and Noel being Noel liked that, despite saying he doesn't like praise in that podcast. At best, Kurt may have seen them live or heard of them while touring the UK, but Matt (and The Crimson Rambler ) is right on this. I'm pretty sure that the test pressing of DM was made around May 1994 so the mixing of DM may not have even been completed by the time Kurt died in April, 1994, so we can't even say that he heard an advanced copy before his death. Yeah he definitely was wasn't he. What did they have out by Kurt's death (5 Apr 1994)? A small number of demo tapes, a white label promo single, a couple of radio sessions and maybe a few little things being passed around Creation and the sort. I don't think they had any mutual ties in the music world at that point either. It just didn't happen. Almost impossible I'd say. I thought Noel's list of reasons as to why he and Kurt probably would've got on was laughably lame. The fact that they're both left handed, have blue eyes and are both Gemini's or something. Fuck me, it was like listening to a teenage girl. I'd like to think he was taking the piss but I don't think he was! He did say that they were both Geminis, yes. Wonder how that's possible if one was born in February and the other in May  This latest podcast has quite a few pretty cringe-worthy moments, I thought. The Kurt C BS aside, there were other moments when Matt was clearly more knowledgable about some music related things than Noel and you could tell Noel didn't like that one bit. Then his claim of being pulled over by Police, when actually, they clearly just recognised him and probably said hello etc. And then the end bit where Noel suddenly had to urgently end the call and Matt said like "of course you have to hang up, you're in lockdown but have to be somewhere at 7:30" Gotta say, I prefer drunk Noel  |
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Post by puffra on May 11, 2020 15:47:27 GMT -5
”Covers” and ”Rod Stewart”.
I was waiting for this one to be mentioned:
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Oh. There’s more:
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Post by bt95 on May 11, 2020 16:20:27 GMT -5
You can tell that Noel was a bit caught off guard when Matt challenged that assertion. That whole exchange seemed like someone at some point told that "fact" about Kurt to Noel (possible that it was Kurt's daughter who is a fan of Oasis) and Noel being Noel liked that, despite saying he doesn't like praise in that podcast. At best, Kurt may have seen them live or heard of them while touring the UK, but Matt (and The Crimson Rambler ) is right on this. I'm pretty sure that the test pressing of DM was made around May 1994 so the mixing of DM may not have even been completed by the time Kurt died in April, 1994, so we can't even say that he heard an advanced copy before his death. Yeah he definitely was wasn't he. What did they have out by Kurt's death (5 Apr 1994)? A small number of demo tapes, a white label promo single, a couple of radio sessions and maybe a few little things being passed around Creation and the sort. I don't think they had any mutual ties in the music world at that point either. It just didn't happen. Almost impossible I'd say. I thought Noel's list of reasons as to why he and Kurt probably would've got on was laughably lame. The fact that they're both left handed, have blue eyes and are both Gemini's or something. Fuck me, it was like listening to a teenage girl. I'd like to think he was taking the piss but I don't think he was! Pretty sure he was taking the piss in regards to the second bit - he's mentioned before (I think - I could be wrong - around the time of the reissue of Time Flies) how much he respected/liked Kurt Cobain and gave similar reasons (i.e. Beatles fans, both pop songwriters etc) as the reasons he gave in the podcast. It's just Noel being Noel. It was a funny podcast and nice for him to say something nice about a fellow artist (even though I agree his bullshit got called out by Matt and it was quite funny. Then again, Noel really seemed to think DM was out by then - this is a case with pretty much anybody involved in Oasis, they can't remember a fucking thing of those days. I imagine it's all a blur). Anyway, the podcast was another good one and made an enjoyable 90 minutes. That Liam reference, while I'm sure it will cause LG to go wild on Twitter if he hears it, was fucking funny. Demi Roussos, ffs |
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on May 11, 2020 16:22:09 GMT -5
Yeah he definitely was wasn't he. What did they have out by Kurt's death (5 Apr 1994)? A small number of demo tapes, a white label promo single, a couple of radio sessions and maybe a few little things being passed around Creation and the sort. I don't think they had any mutual ties in the music world at that point either. It just didn't happen. Almost impossible I'd say. I thought Noel's list of reasons as to why he and Kurt probably would've got on was laughably lame. The fact that they're both left handed, have blue eyes and are both Gemini's or something. Fuck me, it was like listening to a teenage girl. I'd like to think he was taking the piss but I don't think he was! He did say that they were both Geminis, yes. Wonder how that's possible if one was born in February and the other in May This latest podcast has quite a few pretty cringe-worthy moments, I thought. The Kurt C BS aside, there were other moments when Matt was clearly more knowledgable about some music related things than Noel and you could tell Noel didn't like that one bit. Then his claim of being pulled over by Police, when actually, they clearly just recognised him and probably said hello etc. And then the end bit where Noel suddenly had to urgently end the call and Matt said like "of course you have to hang up, you're in lockdown but have to be somewhere at 7:30" Gotta say, I prefer drunk Noel A few years ago I was lucky enough to get a reply from Noel during a Reddit AMA concerning a story he kept on putting out there regarding the origins the chorus to 'Lock All the Doors'. Myself and others noted that he had confused the original 'Lock All the Doors' with 'Comin' On Strong' so I thought I'd ask him about it and he gave an interesting but unsurprising reply:  I think we all know Noel's memory can be a bit rusty at times but I was a little surprised with his honesty in that third sentence. An innocent mistake perhaps but for Noel the facts come second. |
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on May 11, 2020 16:32:42 GMT -5
Yeah he definitely was wasn't he. What did they have out by Kurt's death (5 Apr 1994)? A small number of demo tapes, a white label promo single, a couple of radio sessions and maybe a few little things being passed around Creation and the sort. I don't think they had any mutual ties in the music world at that point either. It just didn't happen. Almost impossible I'd say. I thought Noel's list of reasons as to why he and Kurt probably would've got on was laughably lame. The fact that they're both left handed, have blue eyes and are both Gemini's or something. Fuck me, it was like listening to a teenage girl. I'd like to think he was taking the piss but I don't think he was! Pretty sure he was taking the piss in regards to the second bit - he's mentioned before (I think - I could be wrong - around the time of the reissue of Time Flies) how much he respected/liked Kurt Cobain and gave similar reasons (i.e. Beatles fans, both pop songwriters etc) as the reasons he gave in the podcast. It's just Noel being Noel. It was a funny podcast and nice for him to say something nice about a fellow artist (even though I agree his bullshit got called out by Matt and it was quite funny. Then again, Noel really seemed to think DM was out by then - this is a case with pretty much anybody involved in Oasis, they can't remember a fucking thing of those days. I imagine it's all a blur). Anyway, the podcast was another good one and made an enjoyable 90 minutes. That Liam reference, while I'm sure it will cause LG to go wild on Twitter if he hears it, was fucking funny. Demi Roussos, ffs Oh I do enjoy these Matt/Noel podcasts, indeed they're two funny guys I've got plenty of time for. No doubt Noel's a big joker but he's definitely being somewhat serious here. Check out the first few seconds of this video, I believe it's what you're referring to: |
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Post by Teotihuacan on May 11, 2020 17:04:05 GMT -5
Noel's tendency to exaggerate and embellish stories is in one of the two Paolo Hewitt books, I think it might be in the second one Forever the People.
He relates Noel popping to the corner shop and coming back with a tale of wildly out of proportion to what likely happened, as if every thing in his life he had to make larger than life.This was evident enough to Hewitt way back in 1996-98 that he chose to make a (none too flattering) point of it in the book.
His second book is a little more critical if I remember right as the BHN backlash was setting in and Hewitt was starting to be on the outs with both Noel and Weller after.
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Post by bt95 on May 11, 2020 17:59:56 GMT -5
He did say that they were both Geminis, yes. Wonder how that's possible if one was born in February and the other in May This latest podcast has quite a few pretty cringe-worthy moments, I thought. The Kurt C BS aside, there were other moments when Matt was clearly more knowledgable about some music related things than Noel and you could tell Noel didn't like that one bit. Then his claim of being pulled over by Police, when actually, they clearly just recognised him and probably said hello etc. And then the end bit where Noel suddenly had to urgently end the call and Matt said like "of course you have to hang up, you're in lockdown but have to be somewhere at 7:30" Gotta say, I prefer drunk Noel A few years ago I was lucky enough to get a reply from Noel during a Reddit AMA concerning a story he kept on putting out there regarding the origins the chorus to 'Lock All the Doors'. Myself and others noted that he had confused the original 'Lock All the Doors' with 'Comin' On Strong' so I thought I'd ask him about it and he gave an interesting but unsurprising reply: I think we all know Noel's memory can be a bit rusty at times but I was a little surprised with his honesty in that third sentence. An innocent mistake perhaps but for Noel the facts come second. This, really. Us fans know far more about what happened in certain aspects than them lot themselves. They can't remember. Why would they care to remember? We're fans. We love the band and what they did etc and some of us - especially ones keen enough to be on a forum - like to know all the ins and outs. Noel just couldn't give a fuck and likes to tell stories (which like you say he's pretty honest about). I remember someone else, maybe Peggy, saying how Noel was always a story teller when he was younger. Probably why he's such a good songwriter. It's that creative streak you need to have. But as far as trivia re. the band etc, I'd come to several people on here - yourself included - long before anyone who was actually involved with the band in the early days. Frankly, they don't have a clue. |
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Post by oasisserbia on May 11, 2020 18:05:13 GMT -5
David Bowie also really liked Who Built the Moon and said that it was future of the rock and roll.
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Post by tommybravo on May 11, 2020 18:49:46 GMT -5
XXLG
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Post by Lennon2217 on May 11, 2020 21:28:59 GMT -5
About time Noel did an about-face on The Beach Boys......
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Post by mockba08 on May 12, 2020 5:57:41 GMT -5
Pissed myself at that part to be honest. And the Nan / Mum question. Enjoying these podcasts. |
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Post by oasisunited on May 12, 2020 8:17:11 GMT -5
I think we all know Noel's memory can be a bit rusty at times but I was a little surprised with his honesty in that third sentence. An innocent mistake perhaps but for Noel the facts come second. From the beginning, Noel has always seemed to be aware that part of the business is about creating a brand and protecting the "story". This comes out in Getting High a few times where Hewitt mentions that Noel got upset at mistakes in the press and felt it might have cost them their chance. Perhaps his time with the Inspirals helped him in this regard, as he got to see the business side of it a bit and how a band can use the media to their advantage. I'm sure that the real story on most of the events is not as interesting as it has been made out to be down the years. Tony's book is a good example of this, as his recollection of events (though possibly through jaded eyes) makes a lot of what went down a lot more basic and what you would expect (hard work and luck). On another note, I loved the story about Mark Coyle's drum sound check bit and how it became the intro drums to Live Forever. I had never heard that bit before from Noel. |
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