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Post by oasisunited on Jun 16, 2021 11:17:47 GMT -5
Did you listen to it yet? Yeah, the majority of it has nothing new, the main thing for me was Noel and Bonehead had a massive row, then Bonehead left Oasis. I think it was always claimed Noel fell out with Bonehead before he left, but recently Noels been claiming Liam and Bonehead fell out at the end. Noel has talked about this before, particularly during the recording of SOTSOG in France. Bonehead was apparently drinking a lot and waking up the engineers at early hours in the morning. Noel apparently returned the favor to Bonehead one morning and that lead to Bonehead leaving the session and flying back to England. He quit the band not long after. I believe Noel's quote was something to the effect of "I'll call you the cab [to take you to the airport]" which I think speaks volumes to their relationship at the time. |
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Jun 16, 2021 11:49:03 GMT -5
Yeah, the majority of it has nothing new, the main thing for me was Noel and Bonehead had a massive row, then Bonehead left Oasis. I think it was always claimed Noel fell out with Bonehead before he left, but recently Noels been claiming Liam and Bonehead fell out at the end. Noel has talked about this before, particularly during the recording of SOTSOG in France. Bonehead was apparently drinking a lot and waking up the engineers at early hours in the morning. Noel apparently returned the favor to Bonehead one morning and that lead to Bonehead leaving the session and flying back to England. He quit the band not long after. I believe Noel's quote was something to the effect of "I'll call you the cab [to take you to the airport]" which I think speaks volumes to their relationship at the time. It says a lot that Liam was willing to make the sacrifice of staying off the sauce for the sake of the band but Bonehead couldn’t/wouldn’t. Again, oasis probably should have taken the time off after the Be Here Now tour (since they didn’t take it off after Knebworth) to just relax and spend their money. I think SotSoG could have been an amazing album if Noel had spent another six months writing for it. But alas. |
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Post by mossy on Jun 19, 2021 17:16:18 GMT -5
Enjoyed this ordering of headlines from the NME...  |
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Post by tiger40 on Jun 20, 2021 12:58:27 GMT -5
Enjoyed this ordering of headlines from the NME... Well, we'll just have to wait and see if Noel is right about live music returning. He maybe right in countries abroad where the vaccination programme is slower. But here in the UK who knows as I read on the BBC news pages the other day that one festival was going ahead this weekend I think it was. Then there was a live concert back in May under one of the governments experiments. So who really knows? |
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Jun 20, 2021 13:12:43 GMT -5
Enjoyed this ordering of headlines from the NME... Well, we'll just have to wait and see if Noel is right about live music returning. He maybe right in countries abroad where the vaccination programme is slower. But here in the UK who knows as I read on the BBC news pages the other day that one festival was going ahead this weekend I think it was. Then there was a live concert back in May under one of the governments experiments. So who really knows? In fairness that quote from Noel doesn’t tell the full story of what he said. He said he couldn’t see indoor music returning soon in a meaningful way. And he said outdoor gigs would probably have to have the crowd so far spaced apart that it just wouldn’t be the same. He also noted he had stuff planned for September that had to be canceled. |
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Post by tiger40 on Jun 20, 2021 13:42:59 GMT -5
Well, we'll just have to wait and see if Noel is right about live music returning. He maybe right in countries abroad where the vaccination programme is slower. But here in the UK who knows as I read on the BBC news pages the other day that one festival was going ahead this weekend I think it was. Then there was a live concert back in May under one of the governments experiments. So who really knows? In fairness that quote from Noel doesn’t tell the full story of what he said. He said he couldn’t see indoor music returning soon in a meaningful way. And he said outdoor gigs would probably have to have the crowd so far spaced apart that it just wouldn’t be the same. He also noted he had stuff planned for September that had to be canceled. Oh right, well he's probably right about indoor gigs because I can't see them returning any time soon and as for outdoor gigs then he's probably right with that too. I wish these websites would say what Noel and Liam said on topics properly instead of writing these things half baked. |
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Post by girllikeabomb on Jun 20, 2021 15:59:07 GMT -5
In fairness that quote from Noel doesn’t tell the full story of what he said. He said he couldn’t see indoor music returning soon in a meaningful way. And he said outdoor gigs would probably have to have the crowd so far spaced apart that it just wouldn’t be the same. He also noted he had stuff planned for September that had to be canceled. Didn't hear the podcast, but this doesn't quite reflect what is happening in the US. Not sure what restrictions will look like in England since your infections and hospitalizations are still rising somewhat alarmingly, but if you get to the point where they're not, then outdoor gigs should not have to be distanced. (Distancing is of marginal value outdoors anyway we now know.) The original "Step Four" plans called for no restrictions on most live music, but I guess that very well may change again in July, depending on what happens in the next few weeks. They are allowing a full, 100% capacity, non-distanced crowd for the Wimbledon final (at least for now.) I think scheduling gigs right now has to do with in part with how risk-averse you are. Stuff that gets cancelled last minute costs venues and bands (and is also annoying) and sales may also be much slower if people are not ready to go out yet (and NGHFB tends to play to an older audience that is also more likely to play it safe than a teen crowd) So certainly can make sense to wait another 6 months. But then there are people like Roger Daltrey who are out on tour in the US this summer already (all outdoor gigs) -- he said he'd rather play anywhere that will have him than nowhere at all. (And many states here now allow non-distanced outdoor gigs, though some have upper capacity limits.) |
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Jun 20, 2021 16:46:56 GMT -5
In fairness that quote from Noel doesn’t tell the full story of what he said. He said he couldn’t see indoor music returning soon in a meaningful way. And he said outdoor gigs would probably have to have the crowd so far spaced apart that it just wouldn’t be the same. He also noted he had stuff planned for September that had to be canceled. Didn't hear the podcast, but this doesn't quite reflect what is happening in the US. Not sure what restrictions will look like in England since your infections and hospitalizations are still rising somewhat alarmingly, but if you get to the point where they're not, then outdoor gigs should not have to be distanced. (Distancing is of marginal value outdoors anyway we now know.) The original "Step Four" plans called for no restrictions on most live music, but I guess that very well may change again in July, depending on what happens in the next few weeks. They are allowing a full, 100% capacity, non-distanced crowd for the Wimbledon final (at least for now.) I think scheduling gigs right now has to do with in part with how risk-averse you are. Stuff that gets cancelled last minute costs venues and bands (and is also annoying) and sales may also be much slower if people are not ready to go out yet (and NGHFB tends to play to an older audience that is also more likely to play it safe than a teen crowd) So certainly can make sense to wait another 6 months. But then there are people like Roger Daltrey who are out on tour in the US this summer already (all outdoor gigs) -- he said he'd rather play anywhere that will have him than nowhere at all. (And many states here now allow non-distanced outdoor gigs, though some have upper capacity limits.) Tbh I know nothing about the US and Noel wasn’t talking about the US either. Other than that the first things he does will probably be in the US next summer. But I would be very surprised if there were indoor gigs in the U.K. in 2021. There was an outdoor concert trialled here in Ireland the other week and you had to stand in roped off sections and you were well separated from everyone else. Sounded like a dose. I’m happy to wait a bit longer. |
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Post by girllikeabomb on Jun 20, 2021 20:14:28 GMT -5
Tbh I know nothing about the US and Noel wasn’t talking about the US either. Other than that the first things he does will probably be in the US next summer. But I would be very surprised if there were indoor gigs in the U.K. in 2021. There was an outdoor concert trialled here in Ireland the other week and you had to stand in roped off sections and you were well separated from everyone else. Sounded like a dose. I’m happy to wait a bit longer. Only mentioned the US because England (not sure about Ireland's plans) was expected to follow a very similar path to ours when it fully reopened in June, but of course that went all kinds of wrong. Anyway, Wimbledon obvs is not in the US and that is already going ahead at full capacity so it seems there is some confidence about getting outdoor stuff going at least and a bit of hope for the festivals. I get why Noel is skeptical, and no one has a crystal ball, but if England is able to get to the point of having declining infections (and it's entirely possible), outdoor gigs are slated to resume, and indoor gigs are intended to resume but may be size limited for a while (and riskier to book). That is the plan put forward by Johnson anyway, though it could all change again. Personally, I truly hope Noel is wrong because a lot of people who don’t have his resources are counting on playing dates this Fall. (You can wait and he can wait but some can barely keep going.) I believe it's too soon to kill hope for the late Fall though in June. |
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Post by mossy on Jun 21, 2021 4:30:36 GMT -5
There have already been successful big indoor test events this year: mixmag.net/feature/review-circus-liverpool-clubbing-erp-reviewThe restrictions end date has slipped by a month, but I’m still seeing loads of gigs and club nights being advertised for July onwards. Maybe July and August is a bit risky, but I expect there to be much more live music happening later in the year. Fingers crossed anyway. X |
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Post by rorymcbride on Jun 21, 2021 7:23:41 GMT -5
Well, we'll just have to wait and see if Noel is right about live music returning. He maybe right in countries abroad where the vaccination programme is slower. But here in the UK who knows as I read on the BBC news pages the other day that one festival was going ahead this weekend I think it was. Then there was a live concert back in May under one of the governments experiments. So who really knows? In fairness that quote from Noel doesn’t tell the full story of what he said. He said he couldn’t see indoor music returning soon in a meaningful way. And he said outdoor gigs would probably have to have the crowd so far spaced apart that it just wouldn’t be the same. He also noted he had stuff planned for September that had to be canceled. He then said he didn't see why he should wear a mask in shops now that he's been vaccinated twice and Matt didn't pick him up on the two things being connected. Thick as mince. |
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Post by tiger40 on Jun 21, 2021 13:07:32 GMT -5
To me it doesn't matter if I'm fully vaccinated, I still wear a face mask in shops, indoor and outdoor spaces and Noel should take note instead of making stupid comments.
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Post by girllikeabomb on Jun 21, 2021 21:50:00 GMT -5
There have already been successful big indoor test events this year: mixmag.net/feature/review-circus-liverpool-clubbing-erp-reviewThe restrictions end date has slipped by a month, but I’m still seeing loads of gigs and club nights being advertised for July onwards. Maybe July and August is a bit risky, but I expect there to be much more live music happening later in the year. Fingers crossed anyway. X Foo Fighters played a full capacity Madison Square Garden last night, vaccines required but no masks, no distancing, the real deal. It can be done. |
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Post by 2nz on Jun 24, 2021 15:35:12 GMT -5
There have already been successful big indoor test events this year: mixmag.net/feature/review-circus-liverpool-clubbing-erp-reviewThe restrictions end date has slipped by a month, but I’m still seeing loads of gigs and club nights being advertised for July onwards. Maybe July and August is a bit risky, but I expect there to be much more live music happening later in the year. Fingers crossed anyway. X Foo Fighters played a full capacity Madison Square Garden last night, vaccines required but no masks, no distancing, the real deal. It can be done. TBH it has to be done- needs to be more focus put on what the world looks like post covid- normality has to resume, and the vaccination was the key to that. So it's time to reward people who are vaccinated and gearing up to protect the most vulnerable from variants. If we're being forced into a lockdown again because of a lack of capacity in hospitals etc come winter- what have the decision makers been doing for the last 20 months? |
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Post by bt95 on Jun 26, 2021 11:22:10 GMT -5
There have already been successful big indoor test events this year: mixmag.net/feature/review-circus-liverpool-clubbing-erp-reviewThe restrictions end date has slipped by a month, but I’m still seeing loads of gigs and club nights being advertised for July onwards. Maybe July and August is a bit risky, but I expect there to be much more live music happening later in the year. Fingers crossed anyway. X Foo Fighters played a full capacity Madison Square Garden last night, vaccines required but no masks, no distancing, the real deal. It can be done. It can, but the media will jump on to stop it if it suits them, and governments need to have the bottle. Look at Aus' stupid government. Going back into lockdown in Sydney for at least 2 weeks, when their focus should have been on vaccine roll out. They've only vaccinated 3% of their adult population fully, and only 25% have had their first jab. Compare that to the UK, for example. Just fed up of it all. |
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Post by girllikeabomb on Jun 26, 2021 15:02:10 GMT -5
Foo Fighters played a full capacity Madison Square Garden last night, vaccines required but no masks, no distancing, the real deal. It can be done. It can, but the media will jump on to stop it if it suits them, and governments need to have the bottle. Look at Aus' stupid government. Going back into lockdown in Sydney for at least 2 weeks, when their focus should have been on vaccine roll out. They've only vaccinated 3% of their adult population fully, and only 25% have had their first jab. Compare that to the UK, for example. Just fed up of it all. Oh, I get being fed up, we all are, but the only thing that can ever be done against a very contagious virus is to break the chains of transmission. Unfortunately, humans only know of two effective ways to do that, both of which suck: stop people from mixing socially or vaccinate over 70% of the population. That's about it for options. If a country can't vaccinate fast enough, once infections start rising, out come the restrictions (in any country that cares about, or pretends to care about, its citizens at least). The choices are pretty stark, which is why it miffs me to see anyone influential, Gallagher or not, act like it doesn't matter if people choose to get vaccinated. It does matter, because if enough people choose against you're talking about years and years of on-again, off-again restrictions that will screw lots of working people, including musicians and all who support them. Every country's situation is different and distribution has not been remotely equal, for sure. Australia seems to have issues mainly with poor supply but also vaccine hesitancy, and hopefully those can be fixed in time. In Los Angeles and New York, normal sweaty, crowded, do-what-you-want live shows are returning without any major media concern or battles because rates of fully vaccinated (with 2 shots across all age groups over 12) are so high in those cities. Simple as that. |
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Post by girllikeabomb on Jun 26, 2021 15:08:59 GMT -5
Can't believe no one mentioned that Noel told Matt he would pick Michael Fassbender to play him in a movie! From Steve Jobs to Noel Gallagher?
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Post by Jessica on Jun 26, 2021 15:40:49 GMT -5
Can't believe no one mentioned that Noel told Matt he would pick Michael Fassbender to play him in a movie! From Steve Jobs to Noel Gallagher? Eh, people here don't like the showbiz name dropping he's been doing for years now, they want whatever Oasis/HFB talk that comes out of it. Didn't even remember him mentioning it, and neither did someone else in the podcast comments, haha. |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Jun 26, 2021 15:50:46 GMT -5
Can't believe no one mentioned that Noel told Matt he would pick Michael Fassbender to play him in a movie! From Steve Jobs to Noel Gallagher? Eh, people here don't like the showbiz name dropping he's been doing for years now, they want whatever Oasis/HFB talk that comes out of it. Didn't even remember him mentioning it, and neither did someone else in the podcast comments, haha. Think they were quoting an old one, don't remember him saying it in the last 2-3 |
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Post by girllikeabomb on Jun 26, 2021 16:43:37 GMT -5
Eh, people here don't like the showbiz name dropping he's been doing for years now, they want whatever Oasis/HFB talk that comes out of it. Didn't even remember him mentioning it, and neither did someone else in the podcast comments, haha. Think they were quoting an old one, don't remember him saying it in the last 2-3 Thanks, I don't pay for the podcasts, but it's certainly all over the place in the press suddenly this week for being old. Absolutely no serious point was in the process of being made. Just thought it an amusing bit of "news," and a change of pace from the heavy Covid conversation, but alas, sarcasm is often lost on forums. Anyway, would personally prefer to see Noel play Magneto. |
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Post by lalaland on Jun 27, 2021 9:48:26 GMT -5
Think they were quoting an old one, don't remember him saying it in the last 2-3 Thanks, I don't pay for the podcasts, but it's certainly all over the place in the press suddenly this week for being old. Absolutely no serious point was in the process of being made. Just thought it an amusing bit of "news," and a change of pace from the heavy Covid conversation, but alas, sarcasm is often lost on forums. Anyway, would personally prefer to see Noel play Magneto. IIRC it was a fan question in one of the podcasts - so hardly name dropping. Surely, if someone is asked whom they'd like to play them in a biopic, people aren't going to say 'my cousin, he looks like me' :-) Not sure why Noel thinks Fassbender looks similar to him though hahah |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Jun 27, 2021 9:52:06 GMT -5
Thanks, I don't pay for the podcasts, but it's certainly all over the place in the press suddenly this week for being old. Absolutely no serious point was in the process of being made. Just thought it an amusing bit of "news," and a change of pace from the heavy Covid conversation, but alas, sarcasm is often lost on forums. Anyway, would personally prefer to see Noel play Magneto. IIRC it was a fan question in one of the podcasts - so hardly name dropping. Surely, if someone is asked whom they'd like to play them in a biopic, people aren't going to say 'my cousin, he looks like me' :-) Not sure why Noel thinks Fassbender looks similar to him though hahah Don't think he does tbh, hence why the answer  Think he has no idea of who could play and look like him so he just mentioned a famous name who's also a friend of his |
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Post by bt95 on Jun 27, 2021 17:20:11 GMT -5
It can, but the media will jump on to stop it if it suits them, and governments need to have the bottle. Look at Aus' stupid government. Going back into lockdown in Sydney for at least 2 weeks, when their focus should have been on vaccine roll out. They've only vaccinated 3% of their adult population fully, and only 25% have had their first jab. Compare that to the UK, for example. Just fed up of it all. Oh, I get being fed up, we all are, but the only thing that can ever be done against a very contagious virus is to break the chains of transmission. Unfortunately, humans only know of two effective ways to do that, both of which suck: stop people from mixing socially or vaccinate over 70% of the population. That's about it for options. If a country can't vaccinate fast enough, once infections start rising, out come the restrictions (in any country that cares about, or pretends to care about, its citizens at least). The choices are pretty stark, which is why it miffs me to see anyone influential, Gallagher or not, act like it doesn't matter if people choose to get vaccinated. It does matter, because if enough people choose against you're talking about years and years of on-again, off-again restrictions that will screw lots of working people, including musicians and all who support them. Every country's situation is different and distribution has not been remotely equal, for sure. Australia seems to have issues mainly with poor supply but also vaccine hesitancy, and hopefully those can be fixed in time. In Los Angeles and New York, normal sweaty, crowded, do-what-you-want live shows are returning without any major media concern or battles because rates of fully vaccinated (with 2 shots across all age groups over 12) are so high in those cities. Simple as that. The specific example I use is because Aus' government have been pathetic with their vaccine roll out compared to what they could have been. They dealt with the pandemic brilliantly at first. Now? It's totalitarian nonsense. The UK's vaccine roll out has been pretty much the only thing that has gone right with the pandemic response here. I don't get the concern at all over vaccine take up - it's been very very high here and I, as a perfectly fit 26-year-old, got my first one today. In 8 weeks' time I can have my second. Same for everyone above 18 and I don't know one person bar my sister, who is 23 but 38 weeks pregnant, not to have yet taken up the vaccine when offered it. We have to start getting back to some form of normal in regards gigs etc very soon. Got to take that first step, as they have done in the states. |
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Post by mossy on Jun 28, 2021 7:04:13 GMT -5
Oh, I get being fed up, we all are, but the only thing that can ever be done against a very contagious virus is to break the chains of transmission. Unfortunately, humans only know of two effective ways to do that, both of which suck: stop people from mixing socially or vaccinate over 70% of the population. That's about it for options. If a country can't vaccinate fast enough, once infections start rising, out come the restrictions (in any country that cares about, or pretends to care about, its citizens at least). The choices are pretty stark, which is why it miffs me to see anyone influential, Gallagher or not, act like it doesn't matter if people choose to get vaccinated. It does matter, because if enough people choose against you're talking about years and years of on-again, off-again restrictions that will screw lots of working people, including musicians and all who support them. Every country's situation is different and distribution has not been remotely equal, for sure. Australia seems to have issues mainly with poor supply but also vaccine hesitancy, and hopefully those can be fixed in time. In Los Angeles and New York, normal sweaty, crowded, do-what-you-want live shows are returning without any major media concern or battles because rates of fully vaccinated (with 2 shots across all age groups over 12) are so high in those cities. Simple as that. The specific example I use is because Aus' government have been pathetic with their vaccine roll out compared to what they could have been. They dealt with the pandemic brilliantly at first. Now? It's totalitarian nonsense. The UK's vaccine roll out has been pretty much the only thing that has gone right with the pandemic response here. I don't get the concern at all over vaccine take up - it's been very very high here and I, as a perfectly fit 26-year-old, got my first one today. In 8 weeks' time I can have my second. Same for everyone above 18 and I don't know one person bar my sister, who is 23 but 38 weeks pregnant, not to have yet taken up the vaccine when offered it. We have to start getting back to some form of normal in regards gigs etc very soon. Got to take that first step, as they have done in the states. You're fit but my gosh don't you know it. X |
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Post by Loaded Silence on Jun 30, 2021 12:05:44 GMT -5
New podcast released today
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