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Post by tiger40 on Feb 2, 2021 14:45:23 GMT -5
I remember the days when Noel used to say that he would never put remixes of songs on b.sides and what did he do for the final Oasis singles? Yeah, put mainly remixes out as the b.sides except for Those Swollen Hand Blues. Unbelievable when there was plenty of other good Oasis songs around which could've been used.
As for Beady EYE, I like them but I'm glad that they decided to call it a day when they did and that Liam decided to have some time off before making his big comeback and I'm glad that he's doing so well.
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Post by captaincrankshaft on Feb 2, 2021 17:55:10 GMT -5
Yeah, Four Letter Word is a blindingly great song. As is Boy With The Blues. I remember being surprised at how good it was tbh. Should never have been left off DOYS in my opinion. Come to think of it, The Roller and most of DGSS is better than Andy and Gems tunes on DOYS. That second half of the LP is terrible apart from Soldier On. I think maybe Noel had lost a bit of interest by then. Anyway, Gary, I still remember when you shat yourself on the pitch. Cant remember whether it was in Italy or Mexico but I hope you havenāt had any further problems ādownstairsā after this rather unfortunate event. Italia 90 I believe. Cheers Matt. Ah well, weāve all done it havenāt we... |
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Post by garylineker on Feb 2, 2021 21:40:52 GMT -5
Shat on DOYS
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Post by garylineker on Feb 3, 2021 6:00:58 GMT -5
I remember the days when Noel used to say that he would never put remixes of songs on b.sides and what did he do for the final Oasis singles? Yeah, put mainly remixes out as the b.sides except for Those Swollen Hand Blues. Unbelievable when there was plenty of other good Oasis songs around which could've been used. As for Beady EYE, I like them but I'm glad that they decided to call it a day when they did and that Liam decided to have some time off before making his big comeback and I'm glad that he's doing so well. I struggle to believe he wasn't plotting the solo album for some years before and purposely held songs back. I don't even think that in a sinister kind of way, he could have been planning a solo record while Oasis took a hiatus. Everything like the lack of b-sides, use of stuff like fucking Get Off Your High Horse Lady etc points towards this. I don't buy the reasoning of Liam getting married for a second. |
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Post by dadrocker on Feb 3, 2021 9:03:05 GMT -5
Noel was talking about a solo album for what...8 or 9 years prior to Oasis breaking up?
It was at least 2000 if not before BHN.
If there were songs Liam wouldn't sing or would bitch about as 'not an Oasis tune' or whatever, I'm sure Noel held them for himself.
Also this just hit me with a wave of nostalgia. Band members threatening solo records. lol. Imagine that today? Who gives a crap. There are hardly any bands left anyway.
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Post by defmaybe00 on Feb 3, 2021 9:14:34 GMT -5
I don't think he was plotting it, he has a tendency of saving up stuff because it doesn't fit the flow or he envisions it as a single and there's enough singles on the album even now, and he used to save stuff for following releases during the earlier Oasis days as well
I can't imagine him willingly keeping Come On Outside for himself just to use it as a b-side no one cares about 12 years later, I do believe he was approaching the late Oasis albums with the mindset that if he wrote 5-6 good songs and 3 of them were single material it was enough and he wouldn't waste anything else on it
With that said, in an alternate universe where Oasis are still back together I'm sure he goes, puts the band on hiatus for 3-4 years and makes that solo record
I think he really needed a break from the whole stadium rock band thing
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Post by The Escapist on Feb 3, 2021 9:28:40 GMT -5
Come On Outside really is baffling. That song is a perfect fit on DOYS and is clearly better than most of the songs on there. Really have no idea what Noel was thinking of with that one, just whack Liam vocals on it and improve your record.
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Post by mossy on Feb 3, 2021 10:07:35 GMT -5
I remember the days when Noel used to say that he would never put remixes of songs on b.sides and what did he do for the final Oasis singles? Yeah, put mainly remixes out as the b.sides except for Those Swollen Hand Blues. Unbelievable when there was plenty of other good Oasis songs around which could've been used. As for Beady EYE, I like them but I'm glad that they decided to call it a day when they did and that Liam decided to have some time off before making his big comeback and I'm glad that he's doing so well. I struggle to believe he wasn't plotting the solo album for some years before and purposely held songs back. I don't even think that in a sinister kind of way, he could have been planning a solo record while Oasis took a hiatus. Everything like the lack of b-sides, use of stuff like fucking Get Off Your High Horse Lady etc points towards this. I don't buy the reasoning of Liam getting married for a second.Ā He was definitely planning to do a solo album after DOYS. Canāt find the interview now, but he said at that point the band needed a good long break of a few years and everyone needed to do their own projects before coming back to Oasis. We know heād been talking to Gaz Cobain about a project before Oasis even split. My assumption is he intended that to be a side project type solo thing until the plum incident caused him to quit Oasis. When that side project then turned into his big proper solo album, he binned the AA for safe Sardy. Edit: the text isnāt legible now, but it was probably this Q Magazine interview from 09: live4ever.proboards.com/thread/88452/noel-oasis-split-july-2009Edit 2: found it on SCYO: www.stopcryingyourheartout.co.uk/2009/04/next-months-q-magazine.html?m=1āIāve got a lot of songs lying around and some of them are really great,ā says Gallagher. āBut theyāre not Oasis songs. Theyāre going to sit there and do nothing, so hopefully at the end of this tour Iām going to go and do something for myself.ā He insists that the break will do Oasis good and hopes the other members will also work on their own side-projects. āItād be really interesting for fans of the band to see how each individual makes up the whole,ā he says. āI donāt think itāll affect what Oasis do. Liam, on the other hand, will f***ing freak out.ā He was kinda right... X |
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Post by tiger40 on Feb 3, 2021 14:15:18 GMT -5
I remember the days when Noel used to say that he would never put remixes of songs on b.sides and what did he do for the final Oasis singles? Yeah, put mainly remixes out as the b.sides except for Those Swollen Hand Blues. Unbelievable when there was plenty of other good Oasis songs around which could've been used. As for Beady EYE, I like them but I'm glad that they decided to call it a day when they did and that Liam decided to have some time off before making his big comeback and I'm glad that he's doing so well. I struggle to believe he wasn't plotting the solo album for some years before and purposely held songs back. I don't even think that in a sinister kind of way, he could have been planning a solo record while Oasis took a hiatus. Everything like the lack of b-sides, use of stuff like fucking Get Off Your High Horse Lady etc points towards this. I don't buy the reasoning of Liam getting married for a second. Yeah, I think that Noel was planning a solo album back then but the fact is like you said why didn't he release the songs as b.sides which were released on that bonus cd which came with the album boxed set. It really doesn't make sense to me. |
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Post by tiger40 on Feb 3, 2021 14:18:43 GMT -5
I struggle to believe he wasn't plotting the solo album for some years before and purposely held songs back. I don't even think that in a sinister kind of way, he could have been planning a solo record while Oasis took a hiatus. Everything like the lack of b-sides, use of stuff like fucking Get Off Your High Horse Lady etc points towards this. I don't buy the reasoning of Liam getting married for a second. He was definitely planning to do a solo album after DOYS. Canāt find the interview now, but he said at that point the band needed a good long break of a few years and everyone needed to do their own projects before coming back to Oasis. We know heād been talking to Gaz Cobain about a project before Oasis even split. My assumption is he intended that to be a side project type solo thing until the plum incident caused him to quit Oasis. When that side project then turned into his big proper solo album, he binned the AA for safe Sardy. Edit: the text isnāt legible now, but it was probably this Q Magazine interview from June 09: live4ever.proboards.com/thread/88452/noel-oasis-split-july-2009X Yes, I can remember that interview too. I can't remember all of what was said but I remember him saying that the band needed a rest for a few years and to go off and do their own projects. |
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Post by mossy on Feb 3, 2021 17:38:26 GMT -5
I struggle to believe he wasn't plotting the solo album for some years before and purposely held songs back. I don't even think that in a sinister kind of way, he could have been planning a solo record while Oasis took a hiatus. Everything like the lack of b-sides, use of stuff like fucking Get Off Your High Horse Lady etc points towards this. I don't buy the reasoning of Liam getting married for a second.Ā Yeah,Ā I think that Noel was planning a solo album back then but the fact is like you said why didn't he release the songs as b.sides which were released on that bonus cd which came with the album boxed set. It really doesn't make sense to me.Ā Itās mind blowing that after holding back Come On Outside, a song which could easily have been an Oasis single, he wasted it on the b-side of an EP in 2020. X |
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Post by tiger40 on Feb 3, 2021 18:17:25 GMT -5
Yeah, I think that Noel was planning a solo album back then but the fact is like you said why didn't he release the songs as b.sides which were released on that bonus cd which came with the album boxed set. It really doesn't make sense to me. Itās mind blowing that after holding back Come On Outside, a song which could easily have been an Oasis single, he wasted it on the b-side of an EP in 2020. X I'm not a big fan of the released version of Come On Outside but like you say that it could have easily been an Oasis single and obviously it would been better if Liam had sung it. And it's a shame that it was wasted on a b.side. |
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Post by bt95 on Feb 16, 2021 20:03:49 GMT -5
What did he say about it? |
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Post by garylineker on Feb 20, 2021 21:39:06 GMT -5
I don't think he was plotting it, he has a tendency of saving up stuff because it doesn't fit the flow or he envisions it as a single and there's enough singles on the album even now, and he used to save stuff for following releases during the earlier Oasis days as well I can't imagine him willingly keeping Come On Outside for himself just to use it as a b-side no one cares about 12 years later, I do believe he was approaching the late Oasis albums with the mindset that if he wrote 5-6 good songs and 3 of them were single material it was enough and he wouldn't waste anything else on it With that said, in an alternate universe where Oasis are still back together I'm sure he goes, puts the band on hiatus for 3-4 years and makes that solo record I think he really needed a break from the whole stadium rock band thing He used Get Off Your High Horse Lady for Dig Out Your Soul when he had at stuff like If I Had A Gun and Everybody's On The Run. Then also claimed there were no real singles for the album. If he wasn't plotting a solo album and gave a shit about what he was putting out as Oasis then I'd love to hear the explanation for that one. |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Feb 21, 2021 5:02:19 GMT -5
I don't think he was plotting it, he has a tendency of saving up stuff because it doesn't fit the flow or he envisions it as a single and there's enough singles on the album even now, and he used to save stuff for following releases during the earlier Oasis days as well I can't imagine him willingly keeping Come On Outside for himself just to use it as a b-side no one cares about 12 years later, I do believe he was approaching the late Oasis albums with the mindset that if he wrote 5-6 good songs and 3 of them were single material it was enough and he wouldn't waste anything else on it With that said, in an alternate universe where Oasis are still back together I'm sure he goes, puts the band on hiatus for 3-4 years and makes that solo record I think he really needed a break from the whole stadium rock band thing He used Get Off Your High Horse Lady for Dig Out Your Soul when he had at stuff like If I Had A Gun and Everybody's On The Run. Then also claimed there were no real singles for the album. If he wasn't plotting a solo album and gave a shit about what he was putting out as Oasis then I'd love to hear the explanation for that one. I don't think those two were finished when DOYS was done |
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Post by powerage09 on Feb 21, 2021 10:40:22 GMT -5
He used Get Off Your High Horse Lady for Dig Out Your Soul when he had at stuff like If I Had A Gun and Everybody's On The Run. Then also claimed there were no real singles for the album. If he wasn't plotting a solo album and gave a shit about what he was putting out as Oasis then I'd love to hear the explanation for that one. I don't think those two were finished when DOYS was done I've got a demo's bootleg that is listed as released in 2008 on discogs that's got record machine on it. I'm not sure if this is correct or not but just offering up something I've found. I've got a vinyl reissue that came out last year but original Godfathers records CD is 2008. www.discogs.com/Oasis-Dreams-Is-A-Record-Machine-Demos-From-The-21st-Century-And-More/release/1499633 |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Feb 21, 2021 10:46:08 GMT -5
Oh Record Machine was definitely written by then, I'm talking about IIHAG and EOTR |
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Post by powerage09 on Feb 21, 2021 11:02:47 GMT -5
Oh Record Machine was definitely written by then, I'm talking about IIHAG and EOTR That is my fault for absolutely not reading your post properly. Apologies. As you were! |
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on Feb 21, 2021 11:22:18 GMT -5
To clarify the stuff available for DOYS that we know of is (assuming a SOTSOG era cut off):
- For One So Young [SOTSOG era - Unheard]
- Revolution Song [SOTSOG era]
- (Get Off Your) High Horse Lady [HC era]
- Revival [HC era - Unheard - Possibly became The Hindu Times]
- The Good Rebel [HC era]
- Instrumental #1 (Beetlejuice) [HC era - Unheard]
- The Roller [HC era]
- Aināt Got Nothinā [DBTT era]
- Boy With The Blues [DBTT era]
- Donāt Be Down [DBTT era - Unheard]
- God Help Us All [DBTT era - Possibly Unfinished]
- (I Wanna Live In A Dream In My) Record Machine [DBTT era]
- Just Let It Come Down Over Me [DBTT era]
- Stop The Clocks [DBTT era]
- Sweet & Sour [DBTT era - Unheard]
- The Magic Canāt Be Right [DBTT era - Unheard]
- The Morning Son [DBTT era*]
- Those Swollen Hand Blues [DBTT era]
- Velvet Building [DBTT era - Unheard*]
- [No Known Title - āā¦show me your loveā¦ā] [DBTT era - Unheard]
- [No Known Title - āā¦in my own timeā¦ā] [DBTT era - Unheard]
- Bag It Up [DOYS era]
- Ballroom Figured [DOYS era]
- Come On Outside [DOYS era]
- Evil Eye [DOYS era]
- Falling Down [DOYS era]
- I Believe In All [DOYS era]
- Iām Outta Time [DOYS era*]
- In the Bubble with a Bullet [DOYS era]
- Millionaire [DOYS era]
- Mindfield Feel [DOYS era]
- The Nature of Reality [DOYS era]
- The Shock of the Lightning [DOYS era]
- Soldier On [DOYS era*]
- Standing on the Edge of the Noise [DOYS era]
- To Be Where There's Life [DOYS era]
- The Turning [DOYS era]
- Waiting for the Rapture [DOYS era]
Other possible songs: Don't Stop, Dream On, Freaky Teeth, Man of Misery, Soldier Boys & Jesus Freaks
Could've missed a few...
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Post by garylineker on Feb 21, 2021 16:13:36 GMT -5
To clarify the stuff available for DOYS that we know of is (assuming a SOTSOG era cut off): - For One So Young [SOTSOG era - Unheard]
- Revolution Song [SOTSOG era] - (Get Off Your) High Horse Lady [HC era] - Revival [HC era - Unheard - Possibly became The Hindu Times]
- The Good Rebel [HC era] - Instrumental #1 (Beetlejuice) [HC era - Unheard]
- The Roller [HC era] - Aināt Got Nothinā [DBTT era]
- Boy With The Blues [DBTT era]- Donāt Be Down [DBTT era - Unheard]
- God Help Us All [DBTT era - Possibly Unfinished]
- (I Wanna Live In A Dream In My) Record Machine [DBTT era] - Just Let It Come Down Over Me [DBTT era] - Stop The Clocks [DBTT era] - Sweet & Sour [DBTT era - Unheard]
- The Magic Canāt Be Right [DBTT era - Unheard]
- The Morning Son [DBTT era*]- Those Swollen Hand Blues [DBTT era] - Velvet Building [DBTT era - Unheard*]
- [No Known Title - āā¦show me your loveā¦ā] [DBTT era - Unheard]
- [No Known Title - āā¦in my own timeā¦ā] [DBTT era - Unheard]- Bag It Up [DOYS era] - Ballroom Figured [DOYS era] - Come On Outside [DOYS era] - Evil Eye [DOYS era] - Falling Down [DOYS era] - I Believe In All [DOYS era] - Iām Outta Time [DOYS era*] - In the Bubble with a Bullet [DOYS era] - Millionaire [DOYS era] - Mindfield Feel [DOYS era] - The Nature of Reality [DOYS era] - The Shock of the Lightning [DOYS era] - Soldier On [DOYS era*] - Standing on the Edge of the Noise [DOYS era] - To Be Where There's Life [DOYS era] - The Turning [DOYS era] - Waiting for the Rapture [DOYS era] Other possible songs: Don't Stop, Dream On, Freaky Teeth, Man of Misery, Soldier Boys & Jesus Freaks Could've missed a few... Thanks for doing this, always appreciate this kind of information. |
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Post by smash on Feb 21, 2021 16:21:06 GMT -5
On one of the recent episodes, Noel kept insisting to Matt that he doesn't believe in UFOs, has no interest etc. But this is a 180 degree turn from old Noel - even the book Forever The People goes into his pilgrimage to the pyramids in Mexico being tied to his alien beliefs.
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Post by matt on Feb 21, 2021 19:49:09 GMT -5
On one of the recent episodes, Noel kept insisting to Matt that he doesn't believe in UFOs, has no interest etc. But this is a 180 degree turn from old Noel - even the book Forever The People goes into his pilgrimage to the pyramids in Mexico being tied to his alien beliefs. I think that section takes his interest a bit too literally. One of Noel's favourite film is Close Encounters of the Third Kind. Likewise, it is one of my favourite films too but I don't believe in UFOs! There's maybe just an otherworldly fascination there that extends to the legends of pyramids that doesn't necessarily mean anything superstitious. Either that, or cocaine is a hell of a drug. As an aside, the original concept for the Be Here Now album was placing each band member in a different part of the world ('All Around The World') - Noel's choice was to be photographed in front of the Devil's Tower, Wyoming that features predominantly in that film. |
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Post by breakingmad on Feb 22, 2021 9:04:26 GMT -5
To clarify the stuff available for DOYS that we know of is (assuming a SOTSOG era cut off): - For One So Young [SOTSOG era - Unheard]
- Revolution Song [SOTSOG era] - (Get Off Your) High Horse Lady [HC era] - Revival [HC era - Unheard - Possibly became The Hindu Times]
- The Good Rebel [HC era] - Instrumental #1 (Beetlejuice) [HC era - Unheard]
- The Roller [HC era] - Aināt Got Nothinā [DBTT era]
- Boy With The Blues [DBTT era]- Donāt Be Down [DBTT era - Unheard]
- God Help Us All [DBTT era - Possibly Unfinished]
- (I Wanna Live In A Dream In My) Record Machine [DBTT era] - Just Let It Come Down Over Me [DBTT era] - Stop The Clocks [DBTT era] - Sweet & Sour [DBTT era - Unheard]
- The Magic Canāt Be Right [DBTT era - Unheard]
- The Morning Son [DBTT era*]- Those Swollen Hand Blues [DBTT era] - Velvet Building [DBTT era - Unheard*]
- [No Known Title - āā¦show me your loveā¦ā] [DBTT era - Unheard]
- [No Known Title - āā¦in my own timeā¦ā] [DBTT era - Unheard]- Bag It Up [DOYS era] - Ballroom Figured [DOYS era] - Come On Outside [DOYS era] - Evil Eye [DOYS era] - Falling Down [DOYS era] - I Believe In All [DOYS era] - Iām Outta Time [DOYS era*] - In the Bubble with a Bullet [DOYS era] - Millionaire [DOYS era] - Mindfield Feel [DOYS era] - The Nature of Reality [DOYS era] - The Shock of the Lightning [DOYS era] - Soldier On [DOYS era*] - Standing on the Edge of the Noise [DOYS era] - To Be Where There's Life [DOYS era] - The Turning [DOYS era] - Waiting for the Rapture [DOYS era] Other possible songs: Don't Stop, Dream On, Freaky Teeth, Man of Misery, Soldier Boys & Jesus Freaks Could've missed a few... 'Velvet Building' becomes "Flick Of The Finger" |
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on Feb 22, 2021 9:19:11 GMT -5
To clarify the stuff available for DOYS that we know of is (assuming a SOTSOG era cut off): - For One So Young [SOTSOG era - Unheard]
- Revolution Song [SOTSOG era] - (Get Off Your) High Horse Lady [HC era] - Revival [HC era - Unheard - Possibly became The Hindu Times]
- The Good Rebel [HC era] - Instrumental #1 (Beetlejuice) [HC era - Unheard]
- The Roller [HC era] - Aināt Got Nothinā [DBTT era]
- Boy With The Blues [DBTT era]- Donāt Be Down [DBTT era - Unheard]
- God Help Us All [DBTT era - Possibly Unfinished]
- (I Wanna Live In A Dream In My) Record Machine [DBTT era] - Just Let It Come Down Over Me [DBTT era] - Stop The Clocks [DBTT era] - Sweet & Sour [DBTT era - Unheard]
- The Magic Canāt Be Right [DBTT era - Unheard]
- The Morning Son [DBTT era*]- Those Swollen Hand Blues [DBTT era] - Velvet Building [DBTT era - Unheard*]
- [No Known Title - āā¦show me your loveā¦ā] [DBTT era - Unheard]
- [No Known Title - āā¦in my own timeā¦ā] [DBTT era - Unheard]- Bag It Up [DOYS era] - Ballroom Figured [DOYS era] - Come On Outside [DOYS era] - Evil Eye [DOYS era] - Falling Down [DOYS era] - I Believe In All [DOYS era] - Iām Outta Time [DOYS era*] - In the Bubble with a Bullet [DOYS era] - Millionaire [DOYS era] - Mindfield Feel [DOYS era] - The Nature of Reality [DOYS era] - The Shock of the Lightning [DOYS era] - Soldier On [DOYS era*] - Standing on the Edge of the Noise [DOYS era] - To Be Where There's Life [DOYS era] - The Turning [DOYS era] - Waiting for the Rapture [DOYS era] Other possible songs: Don't Stop, Dream On, Freaky Teeth, Man of Misery, Soldier Boys & Jesus Freaks Could've missed a few... 'Velvet Building' becomes "Flick Of The Finger" Correct! I put the asterisk in for that reason but I probably should have typed it out. Sometime back I timestamped a YouTube video of the band recording what might be 'Velvet Building' in the studio. Unfortunately I can't find my post or the YouTube video. The video might have been The Ear Has No Memory but I'm not sure? |
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Post by tiger40 on Feb 22, 2021 14:36:41 GMT -5
I think that Noel has a bit of an interest in UFO stuff too as I seem to remember that back in 1997 Noel and Liam did an interview for the BE Here Now release and I remember Liam saying that he believed in Aliens. If I remember right I'm sure that Noel made a few comments about them too. But I can't remember now without digging out the interview which is somewhere in my store room.
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