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Post by tiger40 on Jan 5, 2022 14:25:40 GMT -5
So the useless Boris Johnson has said that the England's plan b rules will continue for now. What when some hospitals struggling to cope.
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Post by tiger40 on Jan 6, 2022 14:19:47 GMT -5
So Boris Johnson has called anti-vaccine campaigners mumbo jumbo. Well I thought that's what he is too. However, I guess he does have a point as much as I hate him. Meanwhile, MPs have told him to sort out the problems in the NHS but I bet he won't.
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Post by welshylad on Jan 7, 2022 7:07:38 GMT -5
Had my booster on Tuesday, felt like I was off my tits for 20 minutes about 2 hours after it. Other than that I'm totally fine, same as the first two vaccines.
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Post by tiger40 on Jan 7, 2022 14:03:27 GMT -5
I read on the BBC news pages that the World Heath Organisation say that the latest Covid strain shouldn't be considered as mild as it's killing people. Also, I've just read that UK advisers have said that a fourth Covid jab isn't yet needed because booster doses continue to provide high protection against server disease from the Omicron strain among older adults.
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Post by Elie De Beaufour π΄ on Jan 8, 2022 0:11:53 GMT -5
Because the anti vaxxers want it: #Australahasfallen for Grant Buckley.
Also I wonder how many have actually read 1984?
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Post by dampcottage on Jan 8, 2022 4:17:29 GMT -5
just using nightclubs as an example, so it was certificate of vaccination or negative test for entry, suddenly we have dicks shouting about medical apartheid, so why not just make condition of entry a negative test for everyone, vaccinated or not, no chance to say your being treated differently than anyone else and the highest possible chance of the venue being COVID free,I posted on here before about the rules concerning playing football here in France, it's almost as if someone has wrote a how not to stop the spread of COVID guide, it's a shambles, mixed messaging and already established mistrust in politicians along with them using it as a political tool has made things way worse than they need to be, as great man once said:they don't give a fuck about you, it's a big club, and we're not in it! The whole point is to treat people differently. The vaccines need greater than 85% uptake in a majority of countries on earth to let us get off this hamster wheel and back to normality. That part is known and there are no mixed messages on it. It just is what it is. Those who choose not to get vaccinated are prolonging the pandemic and pretty much every business and government on earth wants to end the pandemic so many are willing to tell people you canβt come in unless you're protected. Testing is an expensive, complicated, inaccurate and most importantly completely ineffective way to try to end the pandemic. There is no other way out than some form of global-scale mass immunity that stops the virus in its tracks. Β True the wealthy largely don't give a fuck about you, but people being sick is costing them money and they give a very big fuck about that ... so yes, they want the pandemic to end just like we all do. Β Then they will go back to the usual exploitation but this is just about a disease. Β sorry for dragging this back out girl! What I was trying to say is that vaccinated or not a negative test is surely the best indication that you don't have and aren't going to spread covid? saying a negative test is unacceptable makes zero sense!
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Post by girllikeabomb on Jan 8, 2022 4:33:01 GMT -5
The whole point is to treat people differently. The vaccines need greater than 85% uptake in a majority of countries on earth to let us get off this hamster wheel and back to normality. That part is known and there are no mixed messages on it. It just is what it is. Those who choose not to get vaccinated are prolonging the pandemic and pretty much every business and government on earth wants to end the pandemic so many are willing to tell people you canβt come in unless you're protected. Testing is an expensive, complicated, inaccurate and most importantly completely ineffective way to try to end the pandemic. There is no other way out than some form of global-scale mass immunity that stops the virus in its tracks. True the wealthy largely don't give a fuck about you, but people being sick is costing them money and they give a very big fuck about that ... so yes, they want the pandemic to end just like we all do. Then they will go back to the usual exploitation but this is just about a disease. sorry for dragging this back out girl! What I was trying to say is that vaccinated or not a negative test is surely the best indication that you don't have and aren't going to spread covid? saying a negative test is unacceptable makes zero sense! Totally get what you are saying cottage but I guess the point is that it really depends on what the goal is. The goal of most public health officials is to get somewhere around 85% of people vaccinated so if they allow negative tests at concerts and bars they fear we'll never reach a high enough rate of super-immunity to beat this thing back ... because the people have no incentive. It's basically bribery, no doubt, but bribery works. That's how public health people look at it, anyway. Obviously it's more complicated when you try to apply this stuff in nominally democratic countries. It's also now a whole new mess because Omicron doesn't show up as well on rapid tests in the first few days. So vaccinated or not vaccinated you can be carrying it even if you test negative. Which means the best way to be safe in a crowd right now is just to get vaccinated and hope for the best. We'll see what comes next. In a best case scenario, Omicron will tamp the whole thing down when it's done with its rampage. Yes, please. But if there's a more deadly but equally contagious variant that emerges expect much harsher measures to come, unfortunately. That's why I worry about infections being so out of control. Don't want that outcome!
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Post by tiger40 on Jan 8, 2022 14:13:22 GMT -5
I read on the BBC news pages earlier that more than 150,000 people in the UK have now died of Covid within 28 days of a positive test since the pandemic began and a further 313 deaths were reported in the governments daily figures on Saturday taking the total to 150,057.
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Post by Elie De Beaufour π΄ on Jan 8, 2022 17:16:34 GMT -5
Can someone please tell my younger sibling how feeling crook after permanent tube tying surgery is Covid?
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jan 9, 2022 0:40:51 GMT -5
I read on the BBC news pages earlier that more than 150,000 people in the UK have now died of Covid within 28 days of a positive test since the pandemic began and a further 313 deaths were reported in the governments daily figures on Saturday taking the total to 150,057. All very sad but what is the data since the vaccine? In America itβs the unvaccinated filling the hospitals and dying for the most part. Pre Vaccine is a different story but the numbers in America say it works and to get it so you and your loved ones donβt get really sick. I just got over COVID myself this week. Omnicron. I was fully vaccinated with a booster shot in October. The only symptoms I had were a sinus headache one night and the loss of taste/smell for 3 days. On day 6 I tested negative again. Vaccine works folks.
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Post by tiger40 on Jan 9, 2022 14:41:36 GMT -5
I read on the BBC news pages earlier that more than 150,000 people in the UK have now died of Covid within 28 days of a positive test since the pandemic began and a further 313 deaths were reported in the governments daily figures on Saturday taking the total to 150,057. All very sad but what is the data since the vaccine? In America itβs the unvaccinated filling the hospitals and dying for the most part. Pre Vaccine is a different story but the numbers in America say it works and to get it so you and your loved ones donβt get really sick. I just got over COVID myself this week. Omnicron. I was fully vaccinated with a booster shot in October. The only symptoms I had were a sinus headache one night and the loss of taste/smell for 3 days. On day 6 I tested negative again. Vaccine works folks. I'm sorry to hear that you're just getting over Covid yourself. I'm not sure what the data is since the vaccine but in the UK from what I've read it seems like the same situation as in America concerning people who are in hospital are mainly unvaccinated people.
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Post by tiger40 on Jan 9, 2022 14:46:19 GMT -5
Thanks to Boris Johnson and his crones the home Covid test kits will no longer be free. It's just typical of this government.
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Post by dampcottage on Jan 10, 2022 3:02:47 GMT -5
sorry for dragging this back out girl! What I was trying to say is that vaccinated or not a negative test is surely the best indication that you don't have and aren't going to spread covid? saying a negative test is unacceptable makes zero sense! Totally get what you are saying cottage but I guess the point is that it really depends on what the goal is. Β The goal of most public health officials is to get somewhere around 85% of people vaccinated so if they allow negative tests at concerts and bars they fear we'll never reach a high enough rate of super-immunity to beat this thing back ... because the people have no incentive. Β It's basically bribery, no doubt, but bribery works. Β That's how public health people look at it, anyway. Β Obviously it's more complicated when you try to apply this stuff in nominally democratic countries. Β It's also now a whole new mess because Omicron doesn't show up as well on rapid tests in the first few days. Β So vaccinated or not vaccinated you can be carrying it even if you test negative. Β Which means the best way to be safe in a crowd right now is just to get vaccinated and hope for the best. Β We'll see what comes next. Β In a best case scenario, Omicron will tamp the whole thing down when it's done with its rampage. Β Yes, please. Β But if there's a more deadly but equally contagious variant that emerges expect much harsher measures to come, unfortunately. Β That's why I worry about infections being so out of control. Β Don't want that outcome! Β agree with you it's (badly planned) bribery and it is working to an extent, but vaccinated people still have and pass covid, the same as unvaccinated, the 85% has been passed in a lot of places and yet still bringing in restrictions, my problem is saying do X and y to fix a problem when to most it makes no sense and won't have the end outcome promised
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Jan 10, 2022 10:46:46 GMT -5
At least you're not in complete lockdown. Man, what I would give to be able to go to a concert..or to go shopping even.
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Post by tiger40 on Jan 10, 2022 14:08:50 GMT -5
I read on the BBC news pages that according to a study colds may offer some protection against Covid too. But experts say that nobody should rely on this defense alone, and vaccines remain key.
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Post by tiger40 on Jan 11, 2022 14:20:37 GMT -5
So Boris Johnson and his misses attended a garden party in 2020 while the country was in lockdown according to reports. If this is true then the PM has once again broken his own law on Covid.
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Post by tiger40 on Jan 12, 2022 14:17:47 GMT -5
Boris Johnson is facing calls to quit after party apology by the Labour leader. And, the PM is also under pressure from his own MPs over the May 2020 party. Good it serves him right then.
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Post by tiger40 on Jan 13, 2022 14:34:37 GMT -5
I read on the BBC news pages that self-isolation period for people test positive for Covid is being cut to five full days in England from Monday. As long as they test negative for Covid after five and six days. It's an attempt to cut the shortage of working people.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jan 13, 2022 17:30:22 GMT -5
I read on the BBC news pages that self-isolation period for people test positive for Covid is being cut to five full days in England from Monday. As long as they test negative for Covid after five and six days. It's an attempt to cut the shortage of working people. Worked for me! I tested positive on rapid. Then the next day positive on PCR. Asymptomatic except loss of taste and smell. They told me to isolate for 5 days and test on day 6. They said I would definitely test negative and I did. Back to normal life and nobody else I know got sick from me.
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Post by matt on Jan 13, 2022 17:59:50 GMT -5
Boris Johnson is facing calls to quit after party apology by the Labour leader. And, the PM is also under pressure from his own MPs over the May 2020 party. Good it serves him right then. I remember when one government scandal would have brought a government down. One scandal is bad enough but one after another makes me blank out all this stuff now. I just can't be bothered getting angry about it. Standards have fallen across the country to constantly allow this to happen. From the government themselves to the media and finally the electorate who are as much to blame for voting this shite in and most of whom have as much moral fibre as the Conservative party, everyone's to blame. And still, we'll probably see the Tories rise in the polls. Such a cesspit of a country.
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Post by Elie De Beaufour π΄ on Jan 13, 2022 18:58:19 GMT -5
So an idiot who doesn't know his arse from his elbow has released a documentary hating everyone vaccinated and praising Trump. Um, dickhead? He WANTS you vaccinated.
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Post by tiger40 on Jan 14, 2022 14:27:11 GMT -5
I read on the BBC news pages that self-isolation period for people test positive for Covid is being cut to five full days in England from Monday. As long as they test negative for Covid after five and six days. It's an attempt to cut the shortage of working people. Worked for me! I tested positive on rapid. Then the next day positive on PCR. Asymptomatic except loss of taste and smell. They told me to isolate for 5 days and test on day 6. They said I would definitely test negative and I did. Back to normal life and nobody else I know got sick from me. That's good if it worked for you. But I'm just wondering if it would work for everyone else.
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Post by tiger40 on Jan 14, 2022 14:31:56 GMT -5
Boris Johnson is facing calls to quit after party apology by the Labour leader. And, the PM is also under pressure from his own MPs over the May 2020 party. Good it serves him right then. I remember when one government scandal would have brought a government down. One scandal is bad enough but one after another makes me blank out all this stuff now. I just can't be bothered getting angry about it. Standards have fallen across the country to constantly allow this to happen. From the government themselves to the media and finally the electorate who are as much to blame for voting this shite in and most of whom have as much moral fibre as the Conservative party, everyone's to blame. And still, we'll probably see the Tories rise in the polls. Such a cesspit of a country. Well, I'm pleased to say that I didn't vote for this lot and have never voted Tory in my life and never will. But this scandal will run and run for a while I think. The thing is though Boris Johnson is too arrogant to step down and will try and hold on to power for as long as possible.
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Post by tiger40 on Jan 14, 2022 14:36:10 GMT -5
I read on the BBC news pages earlier that most Covid rules in Wales will be scrapped as cases have dropped and if they continue to do so over the next two weeks. I don't know how cases are doing in other parts of the UK though.
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Post by globe on Jan 14, 2022 16:44:05 GMT -5
^coming down now up here too. Today this first time since Xmas Eve that the total number in hospital has come down. Hopefully the start of the endβ¦
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