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Post by underneaththesky on Feb 28, 2020 18:33:15 GMT -5
Liam blew it BIG time
and there is no way Noel would book another studio time to please him/or the fans.
i can see how he was angry about him leaving LA
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 28, 2020 18:40:08 GMT -5
Liam blew it BIG time and there is no way Noel would book another studio time to please him/or the fans. i can see how he was angry about him leaving LA Noel was being spiteful over Liam’s wedding. I find it very hard to believe they couldn’t get Liam studio time to sing vocals on two more songs. This is Oasis not Johnny’s first pub band. You make the time. I specially after he said one track was going to be the lead single and the other “Led Zeppelin doing The Beatles”. |
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Post by underneaththesky on Feb 28, 2020 18:49:21 GMT -5
Liam blew it BIG time and there is no way Noel would book another studio time to please him/or the fans. i can see how he was angry about him leaving LA Noel was being spiteful over Liam’s wedding. I find it very hard to believe they couldn’t get Liam studio time to sing vocals on two more songs. This is Oasis not Johnny’s first pub band. You make the time. I specially after he said one track was going to be the lead single and the other “Led Zeppelin doing The Beatles”. I believe Noel went for a bit of a revenge, sadly. you won't be singing any of 'em if you can't be arsed now." - thinking even more about going solo. I would have loved it track 6, 7 or 8 on DOYS. |
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Post by jeffrey on Feb 28, 2020 20:29:49 GMT -5
Fucking yes to this one, although the cow bit is appalling. It's a Wonder Stuff rip off Makes it even worse that he chose to rip off someone else’s horrid lyric. |
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Post by rebus on Feb 28, 2020 21:26:34 GMT -5
This sounds...like it was supposed to be on HFB1. It should've been instead of Stop The Clocks or Record Machine. Doesn't sound too bad, considering Sardy put his hands on it, but it drags a bit. I liked the ''heavyness'' of the demo and I think it's a shame that didn't really return in this version. Oh well, it's not as awful as Revolution Song turned out. The drums have "J E R E M Y S T A C Y", written over them, in sludgy, dull letters. |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Feb 28, 2020 22:13:51 GMT -5
I like the new version - the small tweaks remind me kind of how he made Revolution Song ethereal as well.
Nice one.
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Post by madferitusa2025 on Feb 28, 2020 22:32:23 GMT -5
7.772/10  The official lyric video is really well done. Should have kept the thumping bass and faded out with a Gem solo  Edit: BTW Wonder Stuff fan here. Never Loved Elvis. Offensive title, great record  |
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Post by Marissa on Feb 28, 2020 22:44:32 GMT -5
i can't believe i waited this long and it's cow
(i like the new version though)
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Feb 28, 2020 22:51:21 GMT -5
Also, I really like the video - completely DOYS era optics....
Really makes you wish Oasis still existed.
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Post by Headmaster on Feb 28, 2020 23:15:25 GMT -5
Cool song but Liam would make it even better.
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Post by andymorris on Feb 29, 2020 2:11:07 GMT -5
slower? from 96 to 93? slower? this is nothing, you only thought it was slower because the first verse is 'quiet'... Its definitely slower and noticeable although not by much but it changes everything. Transforms a big heavy tune into a more plaintive one. Noel changed it on purpose so that it doesn’t sound too oasis. And the lyrics make it hard to nail the melody at a faster tempo. This tempo suits his voice more. As for the production, i hope somewhere there is a DOYS version with a big ending with a. Orchestra or b. Wall of guitars |
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Post by drummert5 on Feb 29, 2020 3:34:56 GMT -5
The drums have "J E R E M Y S T A C Y", written over them, in sludgy, dull letters. Yep. Stacey’s drumming is pretty varied but when he’s drumming for Noel he has one mode, and it’s this one. We now know now Force of Nature would have sounded with Jeremy on drums. |
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Post by mystoryisgory on Feb 29, 2020 4:12:35 GMT -5
This is pretty much exactly what I expected this new version of Come On Outside to be. Spacier, groovier, more polished, without losing any of its original edge. I do miss the fadeout though. Fadeouts are underrated in general tbh. Fade outs are cop outs. Hard disagree on this. When your song ends with a repeating riff/melody/motif, fading out the song is very natural and ensures that the melody sticks in your head and leaves a better impression on you. Songs from Hey Jude to Columbia to Girls and Boys wouldn't stick with you as much as they do if they didn't fade out. Not saying that all songs should fade out, but forcing a true ending when the song doesn't call for one can be just as lazy. And in the case of Come On Outside 2020 edition, the true ending adds nothing to the song and you're not left with the ghost of the propulsive bass groove in your head long after the song has ended, like in the demo. Hence me missing the fadeout. |
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Post by oasisunited on Feb 29, 2020 7:29:58 GMT -5
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Post by dadrocker on Feb 29, 2020 8:27:44 GMT -5
Hard disagree on this. When your song ends with a repeating riff/melody/motif, fading out the song is very natural and ensures that the melody sticks in your head and leaves a better impression on you. Songs from Hey Jude to Columbia to Girls and Boys wouldn't stick with you as much as they do if they didn't fade out. Not saying that all songs should fade out, but forcing a true ending when the song doesn't call for one can be just as lazy. And in the case of Come On Outside 2020 edition, the true ending adds nothing to the song and you're not left with the ghost of the propulsive bass groove in your head long after the song has ended, like in the demo. Hence me missing the fadeout. Then there’s the real ending to Some Might Say which was only revealed due to Rock Band and is far superior to an elongated fade-our. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 29, 2020 9:19:39 GMT -5
Cool song but Liam would make it even better. DOYS should have been much much much better. A huge “what if?” album for me. Coming off the highs of DBTT and actually doing an album in Abbey Road incident free had my imagination stoked. I would have made sure these songs made the party. Come On, It’s Alright (Liam vox) Record Machine (Liam vox) Boy With The Blues I would then dump High Horse, Ain’t Got Muffins and Nature of Reality. Noel gonna Noel at the end of the day.... |
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Post by mimmihopps on Feb 29, 2020 9:21:26 GMT -5
I loved the demo version and I love the new version.
Oasis has had so so many missed opportunities, all caused by nothing and everything.
We've waited for this new (album) version for more than 10 years.
I'm glad it's not like Stop The Clocks.
Having said that, if this song was included in DOYS, my opinion on this album would have been different.
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Post by theseventwenty on Feb 29, 2020 9:23:45 GMT -5
Hard disagree on this. When your song ends with a repeating riff/melody/motif, fading out the song is very natural and ensures that the melody sticks in your head and leaves a better impression on you. Songs from Hey Jude to Columbia to Girls and Boys wouldn't stick with you as much as they do if they didn't fade out. Not saying that all songs should fade out, but forcing a true ending when the song doesn't call for one can be just as lazy. And in the case of Come On Outside 2020 edition, the true ending adds nothing to the song and you're not left with the ghost of the propulsive bass groove in your head long after the song has ended, like in the demo. Hence me missing the fadeout. Then there’s the real ending to Some Might Say which was only revealed due to Rock Band and is far superior to an elongated fade-our. Anywhere I can hear that? |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 29, 2020 9:59:08 GMT -5
I loved the demo version and I love the new version. Oasis has had so so many missed opportunities, all caused by nothing and everything. We've waited for this new (album) version for more than 10 years. I'm glad it's not like Stop The Clocks. Having said that, if this song was included in DOYS, my opinion on this album would have been different. Oasis needed an A&R man (or woman) badly after 1998. Noel made such strange artistic and non commercial choices between 2002 and the breakup in 2009. He knew the second act of Oasis was never gonna be like the first, the band really needed the best men on the pitch. Fuck the "concepts", "democracy" and "grooves". Best songs make the team. Noel's whole reasoning for "Come On, It's Alright" and "Record Machine" not being on DOYS just never sat right for me. Big deal Liam left abruptly to get married back in England. Was it a dick move? Probably but they still were in LA mixing/doing vocals when Liam returned from his wedding. Then they had another 6 months prior to the album dropping. It's such spiteful shit. It didn't hurt Liam it only hurt us fans! |
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Post by burningrain on Feb 29, 2020 12:32:34 GMT -5
Then there’s the real ending to Some Might Say which was only revealed due to Rock Band and is far superior to an elongated fade-our. Anywhere I can hear that? But I am not sure this is the version dadrocker is referring to. |
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Post by mystoryisgory on Feb 29, 2020 13:27:04 GMT -5
Hard disagree on this. When your song ends with a repeating riff/melody/motif, fading out the song is very natural and ensures that the melody sticks in your head and leaves a better impression on you. Songs from Hey Jude to Columbia to Girls and Boys wouldn't stick with you as much as they do if they didn't fade out. Not saying that all songs should fade out, but forcing a true ending when the song doesn't call for one can be just as lazy. And in the case of Come On Outside 2020 edition, the true ending adds nothing to the song and you're not left with the ghost of the propulsive bass groove in your head long after the song has ended, like in the demo. Hence me missing the fadeout. Then there’s the real ending to Some Might Say which was only revealed due to Rock Band and is far superior to an elongated fade-our. Again, disagree. Giving it the resolution of a true ending robs it of the euphoric power of its ending guitar solo. Stretching out Some Might Say to its true ending makes it less memorable because nothing happens in the song after Noel's last guitar solo, and the traces of that guitar solo's brilliance no longer linger in your brain. Fadeouts serve a purpose my dude. Like anything else they can be poorly executed, but there's a reason they've been since the beginning of recorded music, and across pretty much every genre. It's another artistic choice to make your song better if the song calls for it. |
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Post by The Escapist on Feb 29, 2020 13:53:16 GMT -5
Some Might Say definitely suits a fade-out. That ending euphoria feels like it could go on forever.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 29, 2020 14:22:54 GMT -5
Someone might have mentioned it already, but Liam is saying (on instagram) he recorded a version of this.
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Post by durk on Feb 29, 2020 14:28:57 GMT -5
this is more like it
love this song
actually better than the demo
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Post by rebus on Feb 29, 2020 15:06:48 GMT -5
Someone might have mentioned it already, but Liam is saying (on instagram) he recorded a version of this. Where? |
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