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Post by Lennon2217 on Jun 22, 2023 13:12:28 GMT -5
Well, Well, Well. Apparently the project will be even bigger than a reissue of Anthology in 4K. I don't know where they're getting their info from, but that one guy was talking about the release of Now and Then a week before Paul announced it. This new project is being compared with the ABBA Voyage hologram shows. Music to my ears if true, I live just near the ABBA show and its epic. This has to be bigger than an Anthology reissue. Peter Jackson wouldn't be involved if it was just this (they can get any skilled film makers/record producers to clean up this material). Anthology is not nearly ambitious enough a project for him, we definitely need to think bigger with this. Exciting times! What was the Abba project. |
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Post by Manualex on Jun 22, 2023 13:34:04 GMT -5
Music to my ears if true, I live just near the ABBA show and its epic. This has to be bigger than an Anthology reissue. Peter Jackson wouldn't be involved if it was just this (they can get any skilled film makers/record producers to clean up this material). Anthology is not nearly ambitious enough a project for him, we definitely need to think bigger with this. Exciting times! What was the Abba project. A concert with holographic representation of ABBA in their younger days. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jun 22, 2023 13:44:43 GMT -5
What was the Abba project. A concert with holographic representation of ABBA in their younger days. Just give us Carnival of Light. |
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Post by matt on Jun 22, 2023 16:53:35 GMT -5
Music to my ears if true, I live just near the ABBA show and its epic. This has to be bigger than an Anthology reissue. Peter Jackson wouldn't be involved if it was just this (they can get any skilled film makers/record producers to clean up this material). Anthology is not nearly ambitious enough a project for him, we definitely need to think bigger with this. Exciting times! What was the Abba project. Hologram show in East London, like watching ABBA perform in their prime. I know holograms sound naff but it is properly impressive and very realistic. The venue is basically a pop up venue built especially for the show, so its built around the technology. Something that works very well for visually iconic artists so would be ideal for The Beatles. |
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Post by andymorris on Jun 23, 2023 1:38:24 GMT -5
Abba did return last year or was it this year ? Didnt quite work. did it ? I dont know.
I'm all for releasing old restored material or reworking Lennon's demos.
Holograms ? Hmm yeah, not for me.
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Post by fabulousbakers on Jun 23, 2023 1:40:34 GMT -5
What was the Abba project. Hologram show in East London, like watching ABBA perform in their prime. I know holograms sound naff but it is properly impressive and very realistic. The venue is basically a pop up venue built especially for the show, so its built around the technology. Something that works very well for visually iconic artists so would be ideal for The Beatles. It would be a real shame if this was the sort of Beatles project they were working on. |
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Post by andymorris on Jun 23, 2023 8:46:06 GMT -5
Was just thinking: if they are doing Now and Then, surely they are re-doing Free ad a bird and Real Love too. I'd love to heard a remix of those two with less of a 90s feel. Hell, maybe they are doing a full record  |
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Post by Let It🩸 on Jun 25, 2023 16:54:02 GMT -5
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Post by MacaRonic on Jun 29, 2023 18:53:46 GMT -5
Was just thinking: if they are doing Now and Then, surely they are re-doing Free ad a bird and Real Love too. I'd love to heard a remix of those two with less of a 90s feel. Hell, maybe they are doing a full record They may remix them again with a little help from MAL (machine assisted learning), but just to let you know “Free As A Bird” and “Real Love” were already remixed for the “1+ Blu-ray,” released in 2015. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jun 29, 2023 19:04:39 GMT -5
Sounds like a Red and Blue album plus EP of 1994 songs are coming this fall.
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Post by andymorris on Jun 30, 2023 1:42:54 GMT -5
Was just thinking: if they are doing Now and Then, surely they are re-doing Free ad a bird and Real Love too. I'd love to heard a remix of those two with less of a 90s feel. Hell, maybe they are doing a full record They may remix them again with a little help from MAL (machine assisted learning), but just to let you know “Free As A Bird” and “Real Love” were already remixed for the “1+ Blu-ray,” released in 2015. Oh ! ? thanx for the info, i'll look for those |
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Post by Bellboy on Jun 30, 2023 3:38:57 GMT -5
Sounds like a Red and Blue album plus EP of 1994 songs are coming this fall. Source? |
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Post by fabulousbakers on Jun 30, 2023 6:05:51 GMT -5
Sounds like a Red and Blue album plus EP of 1994 songs are coming this fall. Does that translate as as "one new song coming this fall"? |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jun 30, 2023 7:24:45 GMT -5
Sounds like a Red and Blue album plus EP of 1994 songs are coming this fall. Source? It’s from a guy on the Steve Hoffmann forum. He dropped several Beatles hints over the years and all came true. |
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Post by andymorris on Jul 2, 2023 5:48:47 GMT -5
In the meantime still waiting for back to the egg re-release from the archives
He’s announced this one what 15 years ago 🥸
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Jul 8, 2023 12:47:56 GMT -5
This is exciting. Back in the 90s they worked on the third song at least enough for George to record a usable rhythm guitar track, and Paul a vocal.
If it is 'Now and Then', I'm really happy to hear the finished version will have strings on it. When I listened to the demo recently (which has since disappearned off YouTube for some reason), I could imagine so clearly some beautiful strings arranged in George Martin's delicate style. Sadly, George is no longer around to make that happen; but with Giles we have the next best thing as far as honouring Beatles lore goes.
Possibly 'Real Love' should have had a string arrangement, or some horns or something, instead of being drenched in George's lead guitar. I know they weren't trying to exactly replicate their 60s sound (after all, Lennon's demos date from the late 70s), but there is no way they would have recorded the song in that way when they were a foursome, or if Lennon hadn't been killed and they'd reconvened in the 80s. I can imagine that George went to those Anthology sessions determined to have his ideas heard, not ignored and overruled as before, and Paul was probably keen to avoid any more issues of the kind they had back in the day, so took a back seat and let George do whatever he wanted.
Don't get me wrong. I think George's playing on 'Free As a Bird' is superb. That record is a real showcase for his talents as a musician, and it's great to hear him sing a bit of lead on a Lennon song (which probably wouldn't've happened had Lennon lived and brought the song into record with the reunited band in the 80s). But his playing on 'Real Love' is just a bit much for me. Overfaces the song somewhat, and takes away from its beauty. (John's chipmunk voice, stuck to a piano, is also to blame for that. Hopefully, on that last point, a nice Giles Martin remix, using machine-learning separation can lessen the effects of that). |
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Post by yeayeayeah on Jul 12, 2023 0:55:57 GMT -5
Excited for this. Doubt we'll get the Beatle background harmonies that were so great on Free As Bird if they only worked on it for a little while back in the 90s.
Also no George guitar solo.
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Post by andymorris on Jul 13, 2023 2:18:32 GMT -5
This is exciting. Back in the 90s they worked on the third song at least enough for George to record a usable rhythm guitar track, and Paul a vocal.
If it is 'Now and Then', I'm really happy to hear the finished version will have strings on it. When I listened to the demo recently (which has since disappearned off YouTube for some reason), I could imagine so clearly some beautiful strings arranged in George Martin's delicate style. Sadly, George is no longer around to make that happen; but with Giles we have the next best thing as far as honouring Beatles lore goes.
Possibly 'Real Love' should have had a string arrangement, or some horns or something, instead of being drenched in George's lead guitar. I know they weren't trying to exactly replicate their 60s sound (after all, Lennon's demos date from the late 70s), but there is no way they would have recorded the song in that way when they were a foursome, or if Lennon hadn't been killed and they'd reconvened in the 80s. I can imagine that George went to those Anthology sessions determined to have his ideas heard, not ignored and overruled as before, and Paul was probably keen to avoid any more issues of the kind they had back in the day, so took a back seat and let George do whatever he wanted.
Don't get me wrong. I think George's playing on 'Free As a Bird' is superb. That record is a real showcase for his talents as a musician, and it's great to hear him sing a bit of lead on a Lennon song (which probably wouldn't've happened had Lennon lived and brought the song into record with the reunited band in the 80s). But his playing on 'Real Love' is just a bit much for me. Overfaces the song somewhat, and takes away from its beauty. (John's chipmunk voice, stuck to a piano, is also to blame for that. Hopefully, on that last point, a nice Giles Martin remix, using machine-learning separation can lessen the effects of that). Interesting, I never thought of it that way. George's guitar parts are indeed taking over the song compared to the mellow feeling of the demo. But it was the 90s, it had to have a big solo right Would be interesting to have another version, although I cant see the other two removing George's parts, that would create mayhem. |
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Jul 13, 2023 7:56:32 GMT -5
This is exciting. Back in the 90s they worked on the third song at least enough for George to record a usable rhythm guitar track, and Paul a vocal.
If it is 'Now and Then', I'm really happy to hear the finished version will have strings on it. When I listened to the demo recently (which has since disappearned off YouTube for some reason), I could imagine so clearly some beautiful strings arranged in George Martin's delicate style. Sadly, George is no longer around to make that happen; but with Giles we have the next best thing as far as honouring Beatles lore goes.
Possibly 'Real Love' should have had a string arrangement, or some horns or something, instead of being drenched in George's lead guitar. I know they weren't trying to exactly replicate their 60s sound (after all, Lennon's demos date from the late 70s), but there is no way they would have recorded the song in that way when they were a foursome, or if Lennon hadn't been killed and they'd reconvened in the 80s. I can imagine that George went to those Anthology sessions determined to have his ideas heard, not ignored and overruled as before, and Paul was probably keen to avoid any more issues of the kind they had back in the day, so took a back seat and let George do whatever he wanted.
Don't get me wrong. I think George's playing on 'Free As a Bird' is superb. That record is a real showcase for his talents as a musician, and it's great to hear him sing a bit of lead on a Lennon song (which probably wouldn't've happened had Lennon lived and brought the song into record with the reunited band in the 80s). But his playing on 'Real Love' is just a bit much for me. Overfaces the song somewhat, and takes away from its beauty. (John's chipmunk voice, stuck to a piano, is also to blame for that. Hopefully, on that last point, a nice Giles Martin remix, using machine-learning separation can lessen the effects of that). Interesting, I never thought of it that way. George's guitar parts are indeed taking over the song compared to the mellow feeling of the demo. But it was the 90s, it had to have a big solo right Would be interesting to have another version, although I cant see the other two removing George's parts, that would create mayhem. I like the guitar breaks in both songs. I think they're legitimate. But the noodling in-between lyrics on 'Real Love' is such Wayne's World-style guitar wankery that I find it a bit embarrasing. Very 90s, as you say, but not in a good way.
I also think it's a shame that Paul's bass playing was so reigned in. It was such a part of their sound in the 60s, and he was so wild with some of his basslines, walking up and down the fretboard, spanning octaves at leisure. I wish he'd let loose a bit on the Anothology recordings. I know that neither 'Free As a Bird' nor 'Real Love' really encouraged it, being slower songs, but just listen to 'Something'. Macca's bass playing on that record is pretty chaotic -- maybe too chaotic, but it's still great fun to listen to. I at least wanted Macca to play that descending run of notes in-between "Seems that all I really was doing..." and "...was waiting for you/love." That's one of the best melodic ideas in the song, it sounds lovely played on piano on Lennon's demos; and they relegated it to a single acoustic guitar panned hard left. Such a waste. Every time I listen to the Anthology 2 version of 'Real Love' I wish that Macca'll run through it once on his bass, even though I know he doesn't.
The muting of bass is a very 90s thing too, as we know being Oasis fans. Be Here Now might just be the least bassy rock album ever recorded.
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Post by oasisserbia on Jul 14, 2023 2:31:28 GMT -5
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Jul 30, 2023 17:01:57 GMT -5
I quite like 'Maxwell's Silver Hammer', but by far the thing I enjoy about it most is Paul corpsing as he tries to get the "He waits behind, writing fifty times 'I must not be so'" lyric out. If it's true that Lennon mooning him from across the studio was the cause of his amusement, that makes it even funnier.
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Post by andymorris on Jul 31, 2023 2:22:21 GMT -5
I quite like 'Maxwell's Silver Hammer', but by far the thing I enjoy about it most is Paul corpsing as he tries to get the "He waits behind, writing fifty times 'I must not be so'" lyric out. If it's true that Lennon mooning him from across the studio was the cause of his amusement, that makes it even funnier. Paul's "cabaret" songs are vastly underrated. I love them all. |
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Post by yeayeayeah on Aug 3, 2023 0:21:54 GMT -5
I quite like 'Maxwell's Silver Hammer', but by far the thing I enjoy about it most is Paul corpsing as he tries to get the "He waits behind, writing fifty times 'I must not be so'" lyric out. If it's true that Lennon mooning him from across the studio was the cause of his amusement, that makes it even funnier. Paul's "cabaret" songs are vastly underrated. I love them all. I like all of them quite a lot bar Maxwell's. Honey Pie is one of my favourite songs on the White Album. Apparently, Now and Then is going to be released on a remixed version of the Red and Blue albums. It'll be interesting hearing the AI separation of the early 2 and 4 track songs. I can't quite imagine what it'll be like but I have high hopes. I'm not sure we'll get a Rubber Soul remix this year if this comes out. I think they should package Please, Please Me and With The Beatles into a 63 boxset as it's 60 years since they were released and then work forward up to Rubber Soul. |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Aug 6, 2023 14:46:41 GMT -5
I quite like 'Maxwell's Silver Hammer', but by far the thing I enjoy about it most is Paul corpsing as he tries to get the "He waits behind, writing fifty times 'I must not be so'" lyric out. If it's true that Lennon mooning him from across the studio was the cause of his amusement, that makes it even funnier. Paul's "cabaret" songs are vastly underrated. I love them all. Me too, especially Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da. Never fails to put a smile on my face and so much fun to sing along to. |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Aug 6, 2023 14:51:18 GMT -5
This is exciting. Back in the 90s they worked on the third song at least enough for George to record a usable rhythm guitar track, and Paul a vocal.
If it is 'Now and Then', I'm really happy to hear the finished version will have strings on it. When I listened to the demo recently (which has since disappearned off YouTube for some reason), I could imagine so clearly some beautiful strings arranged in George Martin's delicate style. Sadly, George is no longer around to make that happen; but with Giles we have the next best thing as far as honouring Beatles lore goes.
Possibly 'Real Love' should have had a string arrangement, or some horns or something, instead of being drenched in George's lead guitar. I know they weren't trying to exactly replicate their 60s sound (after all, Lennon's demos date from the late 70s), but there is no way they would have recorded the song in that way when they were a foursome, or if Lennon hadn't been killed and they'd reconvened in the 80s. I can imagine that George went to those Anthology sessions determined to have his ideas heard, not ignored and overruled as before, and Paul was probably keen to avoid any more issues of the kind they had back in the day, so took a back seat and let George do whatever he wanted.
Don't get me wrong. I think George's playing on 'Free As a Bird' is superb. That record is a real showcase for his talents as a musician, and it's great to hear him sing a bit of lead on a Lennon song (which probably wouldn't've happened had Lennon lived and brought the song into record with the reunited band in the 80s). But his playing on 'Real Love' is just a bit much for me. Overfaces the song somewhat, and takes away from its beauty. (John's chipmunk voice, stuck to a piano, is also to blame for that. Hopefully, on that last point, a nice Giles Martin remix, using machine-learning separation can lessen the effects of that). I agree. Same goes for Free as a bird for me. It's one of the reasons I never listen to those two songs. It's a shame, because Real Love is a song that really doesn't need much. |
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