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Post by Lennon2217 on Dec 1, 2021 19:40:54 GMT -5
It boggles my mind that the band was still so young during these sessions. Ringo - 28 John - 28 Paul - 26 George - 25 It's easy to forget because they all look older, and they seem so tired all the time. They all look late 30s.
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Post by girllikeabomb on Dec 1, 2021 22:14:57 GMT -5
It's easy to forget because they all look older, and they seem so tired all the time. They all look late 30s. 30 was the old 40. Totally serious about that. Different times. My parents are the Beatles age and they looked what I would describe as more mature too in their late 20s despite a lack of drugs and smoking (they did do plenty of drinking.) But also, people look for certain cues to age now that are different than they were then. True aging is most apparent in the skin. The Beatles barely have any lines in their faces in Get Back. They had a lot more when they were 40 (except for Ringo who still has few in his 80s and is surely drinking the blood of virgins.)
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Post by World71R on Dec 3, 2021 18:16:21 GMT -5
What an amazing 3 days it has been for us Beatles fans. I'm still processing what I just witnessed. I think I am going to watch all 3 back to back tomorrow. I'm with you. That footage was incredible to watch. I had tears of joy in my eyes at several points in the series and it was a treat to watch them in their rawest form just creating and performing and writing and being a band. Few documentaries top what we got. It really made me appreciate a lot of the Let it Be songs, especially I Got a Feelin', Dig a Pony and Two of Us. Two of Us, especially. I love how John and Paul perform that with a distinct comraderie and brother-like love for each other, and then them trading vocals on I Got a Feelin', you see what makes those songs special. Love it.
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Post by girllikeabomb on Dec 3, 2021 18:18:37 GMT -5
What an amazing 3 days it has been for us Beatles fans. I'm still processing what I just witnessed. I think I am going to watch all 3 back to back tomorrow. I'm with you. That footage was incredible to watch. I had tears of joy in my eyes at several points in the series and it was a treat to watch them in their rawest form just creating and performing and writing and being a band. Few documentaries top what we got. It really made me appreciate a lot of the Let it Be songs, especially I Got a Feelin', Dig a Pony and Two of Us. Two of Us, especially. I love how John and Paul perform that with a distinct comraderie and brother-like love for each other, and then them trading vocals on I Got a Feelin', you see what makes those songs special. Love it. Beautifully said.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Dec 3, 2021 19:41:41 GMT -5
I’m about an hour and a half in and the footage is incredible.
My main take away’s so far are.
John is clearly on another planet during the session.
Paul is an overbearing leader. He might have kept them together but I think he also hastened their departure.
The project was doomed from the start because I don’t think Paul was capable of rehearsing in a style required to pull it off.
The general dismissive attitude towards George is ridiculous. The amount of effort they have spent so far on Maxwells Silver Hammer rather than All Things Must pass is a case in point 😂. That two master songwriters can’t see its quality is ridiculous.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Dec 3, 2021 19:49:41 GMT -5
Oh and the director is a twonk 😂
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Post by tomlivesforever on Dec 3, 2021 20:07:45 GMT -5
Mal Evans is top man.
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Post by girllikeabomb on Dec 3, 2021 22:48:57 GMT -5
He was tragically shot to death by the LAPD in 1976.
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Post by matt on Dec 4, 2021 7:47:05 GMT -5
He was tragically shot to death by the LAPD in 1976. Unfortunately like The Beatles themselves, many within their circle struggled personally after the split. Evans was a big loss. Sad endings all round for a large group of Liverpudlian folk who were all a tight unit well before they were famous.
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Post by Rolo on Dec 4, 2021 15:21:09 GMT -5
How the fuck wasn't All Things Must Pass took more seriously?
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Post by matt on Dec 4, 2021 16:01:10 GMT -5
Limmy knows the score. But it's also partly true. Although overbearing, The Beatles would have been stumbled to a feeble demise without his intense work ethic and focus.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Dec 4, 2021 19:07:37 GMT -5
Limmy knows the score. But it's also partly true. Although overbearing, The Beatles would have been stumbled to a feeble demise without his intense work ethic and focus. They had weeks to write, rehearse and play an album of new songs live to an audience. Going over the same 30 seconds of one track over and over while denigrating another member of the band was never going to end well. George, John and Ringo were clearly more willing to work in the Dylan style. Working up a song by knowing the basic chords and actually playing it and see where it went. Paul just seems like he’s writing for a studio album with lots of time to do so. It’s mad to think what Let It Be could have been. With stuff like Gimmie Some Truth and All Things Must Pass being rehersed.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Dec 4, 2021 19:20:46 GMT -5
Limmy knows the score. But it's also partly true. Although overbearing, The Beatles would have been stumbled to a feeble demise without his intense work ethic and focus. They had weeks to write, rehearse and play an album of new songs live to an audience. Going over the same 30 seconds of one track over and over while denigrating another member of the band was never going to end well. George, John and Ringo were clearly more willing to work in the Dylan style. Working up a song by knowing the basic chords and actually playing it and see where it went. Paul just seems like he’s writing for a studio album with lots of time to do so. It’s mad to think what Let It Be could have been. With stuff like Gimmie Some Truth and All Things Must Pass being rehersed. I always thought Let It Be was just fine. My only complaint is that “Don’t Let Me Down” wasn’t on the final album. It’s literally the best thing during that period. What a tune! Outside of that what was going to make it better? Use future Abbey Road songs?
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Post by tomlivesforever on Dec 4, 2021 19:28:42 GMT -5
They had weeks to write, rehearse and play an album of new songs live to an audience. Going over the same 30 seconds of one track over and over while denigrating another member of the band was never going to end well. George, John and Ringo were clearly more willing to work in the Dylan style. Working up a song by knowing the basic chords and actually playing it and see where it went. Paul just seems like he’s writing for a studio album with lots of time to do so. It’s mad to think what Let It Be could have been. With stuff like Gimmie Some Truth and All Things Must Pass being rehersed. I always thought Let It Be was just fine. My only complaint is that “Don’t Let Me Down” wasn’t on the final album. It’s literally the best thing during that period. What a tune! Outside of that what was going to make it better? Use future Abbey Road songs? Well the two I listed would have undoubtedly made it better as would Don’t Let Me Down. Imagine the album with those three on! I like Let It Be in any case I’ve never thought it was as average as some have seemed to suggest.
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Post by girllikeabomb on Dec 4, 2021 23:11:24 GMT -5
I always thought Let It Be was just fine. My only complaint is that “Don’t Let Me Down” wasn’t on the final album. It’s literally the best thing during that period. What a tune! Outside of that what was going to make it better? Use future Abbey Road songs? Well the two I listed would have undoubtedly made it better as would Don’t Let Me Down. Imagine the album with those three on! I like Let It Be in any case I’ve never thought it was as average as some have seemed to suggest. I think though we have too much benefit of hindsight. We know the songs they turned into but in that room in that very moment in time they weren’t catching fire with the band and that is what counts. Gotta say I'm not fully convinced Gimme Some Truth would have been right on Let It Be, anyway. A great song (but a big part of its greatness is the lyrics which were changed later) and it was fun to see Paul playing with it, but I don’t personally see it belonging on that album much. Not the right vibe. But that’s for me part of the whole point. They were each by the late 60s on different wavelengths, starting down their own personal roads (John getting more and more political for one thing and Let It Be is not an overtly political album), and what is captured in Get Back is a bit of that last hurrah when they were still able to vibe together if only for some brief, beautiful moments.
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Post by Parka Flames on Dec 5, 2021 3:20:11 GMT -5
Noel G (and others) interviewed at the premiere. Noel is at the end of the vid.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Dec 5, 2021 6:11:27 GMT -5
Well the two I listed would have undoubtedly made it better as would Don’t Let Me Down. Imagine the album with those three on! I like Let It Be in any case I’ve never thought it was as average as some have seemed to suggest. I think though we have too much benefit of hindsight. We know the songs they turned into but in that room in that very moment in time they weren’t catching fire with the band and that is what counts. Gotta say I'm not fully convinced Gimme Some Truth would have been right on Let It Be, anyway. A great song (but a big part of its greatness is the lyrics which were changed later) and it was fun to see Paul playing with it, but I don’t personally see it belonging on that album much. Not the right vibe. But that’s for me part of the whole point. They were each by the late 60s on different wavelengths, starting down their own personal roads (John getting more and more political for one thing and Let It Be is not an overtly political album), and what is captured in Get Back is a bit of that last hurrah when they were still able to vibe together if only for some brief, beautiful moments. Maybe you’re right about Gimme Some Truth. I still think the other two would fit on there well. The biggest problem doesn’t seem personal, to me it looks professional, it’s not the idea but how they’re going to do it. You can see the life drain out of George after some initial enthusiasm. It’s good that George got to do a similar sort of project in style he probably preferred for Travelling Wilbury’s.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Dec 5, 2021 13:26:46 GMT -5
I’m about an hour and a half in and the footage is incredible. My main take away’s so far are. John is clearly on another planet during the session. Paul is an overbearing leader. He might have kept them together but I think he also hastened their departure. The project was doomed from the start because I don’t think Paul was capable of rehearsing in a style required to pull it off. The general dismissive attitude towards George is ridiculous. The amount of effort they have spent so far on Maxwells Silver Hammer rather than All Things Must pass is a case in point 😂. That two master songwriters can’t see its quality is ridiculous. Fun fact: The most takes they ever spent was on Not Guilty, a Harrisong that wasn't used as George didn't like it.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Dec 5, 2021 16:23:52 GMT -5
I’m about an hour and a half in and the footage is incredible. My main take away’s so far are. John is clearly on another planet during the session. Paul is an overbearing leader. He might have kept them together but I think he also hastened their departure. The project was doomed from the start because I don’t think Paul was capable of rehearsing in a style required to pull it off. The general dismissive attitude towards George is ridiculous. The amount of effort they have spent so far on Maxwells Silver Hammer rather than All Things Must pass is a case in point 😂. That two master songwriters can’t see its quality is ridiculous. Fun fact: The most takes they ever spent was on Not Guilty, a Harrisong that wasn't used as George didn't like it. Not Guilty is a masterpiece when compared twee nonsense like Maxwells Silver Hammer.
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Post by girllikeabomb on Dec 5, 2021 16:32:23 GMT -5
Maybe you’re right about Gimme Some Truth. I still think the other two would fit on there well. The biggest problem doesn’t seem personal, to me it looks professional, it’s not the idea but how they’re going to do it. You can see the life drain out of George after some initial enthusiasm. It’s good that George got to do a similar sort of project in style he probably preferred for Travelling Wilbury’s. Yeah there was a big upside for George which was that he had this great material for a solo album where he was able to really express himself the way he wanted without trying to please Paul and John... and that set the tone for his whole post-Beatles career which I think was a happy one (if far too short.) As for "Don't Let Me Down" it will always be just completely nuts that Phil Spector ixnayed it from Let It Be. B-side or not it was a centerpiece of those sessions and maybe Lennon's best song of that period ...
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Post by matt on Dec 5, 2021 17:12:49 GMT -5
Limmy knows the score. But it's also partly true. Although overbearing, The Beatles would have been stumbled to a feeble demise without his intense work ethic and focus. They had weeks to write, rehearse and play an album of new songs live to an audience. Going over the same 30 seconds of one track over and over while denigrating another member of the band was never going to end well. George, John and Ringo were clearly more willing to work in the Dylan style. Working up a song by knowing the basic chords and actually playing it and see where it went. Paul just seems like he’s writing for a studio album with lots of time to do so. It’s mad to think what Let It Be could have been. With stuff like Gimmie Some Truth and All Things Must Pass being rehersed. But as the above says, Paul's a grafter so is going to become tedious and overbearing. His perfectionism, attention to detail and craftsmanship is what set him apart from Lennon and Harrison. Lennon and Harrison certainly more raw, but The Beatles wouldn't have been the lush sophisticated pop band without McCartney. Despite misgivings towards his attitude in some places, he was the one who held it all together and eeked the last bits of greatness from the band.
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Post by oasisserbia on Dec 5, 2021 19:24:27 GMT -5
Noel G (and others) interviewed at the premiere. Noel is at the end of the vid. Wtf is Noel saying, is he high :-) This is one my favourite albums I don't like Let It Be
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Post by Lennon2217 on Dec 5, 2021 19:28:18 GMT -5
Noel G (and others) interviewed at the premiere. Noel is at the end of the vid. Wtf is Noel saying, is he high :-) This is one my favourite albums I don't like Let It Be I like the album but I can never get into “The Long and Winding Road”. Just isn’t for me. Has nothing to do with Spector mix because none of the versions suit me.
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Post by Binary Sunset on Dec 5, 2021 20:02:15 GMT -5
Noel G (and others) interviewed at the premiere. Noel is at the end of the vid. Wtf is Noel saying, is he high :-) This is one my favourite albums I don't like Let It Be The only thing i can possibly think he's saying that makes any sense, is that he hates the "Let it Be" film. But whatever
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Post by girllikeabomb on Dec 5, 2021 20:39:23 GMT -5
Noel G (and others) interviewed at the premiere. Noel is at the end of the vid. Wtf is Noel saying, is he high :-) This is one my favourite albums I don't like Let It Be Hahaha. I thought maybe he meant to say he didn't like Abbey Road but those wrong words came out as they sometimes can ...
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