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Post by matt on Nov 23, 2019 10:58:35 GMT -5
the best song on the album isn't even on the album Flags released as a bonus track in Japan today Amazing Hang on, what tune is this? |
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Post by matt on Nov 23, 2019 11:10:02 GMT -5
This is a very good point. Although I don't agree about MX sounding anything but fully-formed (there are only two acoustic songs on the album, one of which is less than two minutes long), I agree that the reason albums like Everyday Life - and, dare I say it, Ghost Stories - are just "very good" and not "another masterpiece" is because the band is looking in two directions. Said it many times, but they work best when there is a guiding producer like Eno who can push them all towards one common goal. Viva and Mylo both feel like Chris, Jonny, Guy, and Will were all bringing their colourful contributions to a sound. However, I think we should still be really very happy with what we got yesterday. Sunrise is such a beautiful piece of music. Arabesque might be the best song they've ever made. Stuff like BrokEn, When I Need a Friend, and Cry Cry Cry are gorgeously experimental interludes. And then you get more traditional Coldplay anthems in Church, Orphans, Daddy, and Champion of the World. They did good this time. I'm very happy with the album, overall. This is the result of a couple of issues.......... When the band was initially promoting MX, they made a point of telling everyone they started making two albums, acoustic and experimental. That started to shade opinions and expectations, fair or unfair. Besides the obvious acoustic songs like Us Against The World and UFO, we know Charlie Brown was reworked from the acoustic album along with a few others the band mentioned over time. I'm assuming songs like Up In Flames and Up With The Birds had piano/acoustic beginnings. So what would be 5 songs right there. God only knows how many other songs were abandoned and sent to the basement. I feel like this band has 100 fully formed released songs in their vaults. Mylo Xyloto era was first gonna be acoustic, then electronic, then combined, then an animated film was going to support the overall theme of the album and then abandoned (although comics now exist apparently) until we are just left with Mylo Xyloto. That is some wild ride of directions. If you think about it, Viva is the only album since A Rush Of Blood that has stayed true to its course since its inception and it’s quite telling how it is the outstanding album post-X&Y. You have the Mylo Xyloto episode above, and Ghost Stories/Head Full Of Dreams which both sound lightweight where the band would have benefited from focusing on just one album since MX. I think this one will be my favourite of theirs since VLV though (it’s a solid 8/10 for me), and I think much of that has to do with the core production team of Rik Simpson and co (aka The Dream Team) who have been with them for years and know their true quality, eschewing any fad sounds. But it still suffers from the same criticism in saying that it is arguably undercooked in some places and could be more focused, but these things look so much better in hindsight if the next album is a belter. |
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Post by durk on Nov 23, 2019 11:24:45 GMT -5
the production is outstanding
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Post by durk on Nov 23, 2019 11:33:07 GMT -5
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 23, 2019 11:34:42 GMT -5
My flags MP3 has a skip in it mid way. Shiiiiiit.
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Post by durk on Nov 23, 2019 11:43:44 GMT -5
My flags MP3 has a skip in it mid way. Shiiiiiit. you sure it's not a hihat chic? mine is clean or try the flac version? |
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Post by batfink30 on Nov 23, 2019 11:52:23 GMT -5
This is the result of a couple of issues.......... When the band was initially promoting MX, they made a point of telling everyone they started making two albums, acoustic and experimental. That started to shade opinions and expectations, fair or unfair. Besides the obvious acoustic songs like Us Against The World and UFO, we know Charlie Brown was reworked from the acoustic album along with a few others the band mentioned over time. I'm assuming songs like Up In Flames and Up With The Birds had piano/acoustic beginnings. So what would be 5 songs right there. God only knows how many other songs were abandoned and sent to the basement. I feel like this band has 100 fully formed released songs in their vaults. Mylo Xyloto era was first gonna be acoustic, then electronic, then combined, then an animated film was going to support the overall theme of the album and then abandoned (although comics now exist apparently) until we are just left with Mylo Xyloto. That is some wild ride of directions. If you think about it, Viva is the only album since A Rush Of Blood that has stayed true to its course since its inception and it’s quite telling how it is the outstanding album post-X&Y. You have the Mylo Xyloto episode above, and Ghost Stories/Head Full Of Dreams which both sound lightweight where the band would have benefited from focusing on just one album since MX. I think this one will be my favourite of theirs since VLV though (it’s a solid 8/10 for me), and I think much of that has to do with the core production team of Rik Simpson and co (aka The Dream Team) who have been with them for years and know their true quality, eschewing any fad sounds. But it still suffers from the same criticism in saying that it is arguably undercooked in some places and could be more focused, but these things look so much better in hindsight if the next album is a belter. Their next album will infuriatingly be AHFOD Pt2. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 23, 2019 11:54:07 GMT -5
If you think about it, Viva is the only album since A Rush Of Blood that has stayed true to its course since its inception and it’s quite telling how it is the outstanding album post-X&Y. You have the Mylo Xyloto episode above, and Ghost Stories/Head Full Of Dreams which both sound lightweight where the band would have benefited from focusing on just one album since MX. I think this one will be my favourite of theirs since VLV though (it’s a solid 8/10 for me), and I think much of that has to do with the core production team of Rik Simpson and co (aka The Dream Team) who have been with them for years and know their true quality, eschewing any fad sounds. But it still suffers from the same criticism in saying that it is arguably undercooked in some places and could be more focused, but these things look so much better in hindsight if the next album is a belter. Their next album will infuriatingly be AHFOD Pt2. That would hurt so much. Chris’ comments around that album scare me. Peak Coldplay? Gimme a break. Wake up Chris. Wake up. |
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Post by matt on Nov 23, 2019 11:55:51 GMT -5
Their next album will infuriatingly be AHFOD Pt2. That would hurt so much. Chris’ comments around that album scare me. Peak Coldplay? Gimme a break. Wake up Chris. Wake up. What he say? |
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Post by The Escapist on Nov 23, 2019 12:10:20 GMT -5
If LP9 sounds like Orphans, I'm fine with that. We'll see how it goes. Right now, I'm enjoying Everyday Life.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 23, 2019 12:18:17 GMT -5
My flags MP3 has a skip in it mid way. Shiiiiiit. you sure it's not a hihat chic? mine is clean or try the flac version? Def pauses entirely at the 2 min 57 sec mark. |
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Post by glider on Nov 23, 2019 12:36:05 GMT -5
The pop music landscape is completely different now. AHFOD Part 2 will not work.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 23, 2019 12:54:44 GMT -5
That would hurt so much. Chris’ comments around that album scare me. Peak Coldplay? Gimme a break. Wake up Chris. Wake up. What he say? They were all comments back in 2015. All bands play up their shit but I hope he doesn’t truly deeply believe. He said this was the album coldplay was always working towards. The album they always wanted to achieve. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 23, 2019 12:55:26 GMT -5
My flags MP3 has a skip in it mid way. Shiiiiiit. you sure it's not a hihat chic? mine is clean or try the flac version? I have not been fortunate enough to stumble upon the FLAC |
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Post by The Escapist on Nov 23, 2019 16:27:20 GMT -5
Jesus fucking fuck Arabesque is amazing. I can hardly believe this is a Coldplay song.
One of the best tracks of 2019.
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Post by mystoryisgory on Nov 23, 2019 18:38:24 GMT -5
Jesus fucking fuck Arabesque is amazing. I can hardly believe this is a Coldplay song. One of the best tracks of 2019. I love it when rock musicians incorporate jazz influences, whether it be The National Anthem, The Right Stuff, If They Move, Kill 'Em, or Tis a Pity She was a Whore. In fact, the more nods your music of any genre makes to jazz, the more likely I am to say it's the best thing ever.  |
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Post by glider on Nov 23, 2019 22:40:21 GMT -5
Jesus fucking fuck Arabesque is amazing. I can hardly believe this is a Coldplay song. One of the best tracks of 2019. I love it when rock musicians incorporate jazz influences, whether it be The National Anthem, The Right Stuff, If They Move, Kill 'Em, or Tis a Pity She was a Whore. In fact, the more nods your music of any genre makes to jazz, the more likely I am to say it's the best thing ever. I'm the same when it comes to ambient themes. Any incorporation of moogs, modulars, delays, into ambient washes of ethereal sound I'm immediately on board. |
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Post by matt on Nov 24, 2019 7:44:54 GMT -5
Interesting little tidbit, John Metcalfe who co-produced/arranged a couple of songs was a member of the Manchester post punk band Durutti Column (featuring Vini Reilly - Morrissey’s first solo collaborator) and launched Factory Classical with Tony Wilson. Also has his own distinguished solo career.
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Post by matt on Nov 24, 2019 7:57:23 GMT -5
Jesus fucking fuck Arabesque is amazing. I can hardly believe this is a Coldplay song. One of the best tracks of 2019. The type of song we all knew they could do but wouldn’t. Glad it came to fruition as it’s such a breath of fresh air. The instrumentation is them at their best and the jazz fusion is seamless. |
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Post by The Escapist on Nov 24, 2019 15:40:37 GMT -5
 Chris on "Daddy". |
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Post by World71R on Nov 24, 2019 21:38:35 GMT -5
the production is outstanding My only gripe is that the guitar parts on Orphans aren't louder. Jonny does some good stuff on that song, in a style that isn't seen on a lot of the album, and it gets relegated to the back of the mix, minus some parts of the outro. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 25, 2019 2:36:58 GMT -5
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Post by Manualex on Nov 25, 2019 10:05:45 GMT -5
Pretty shocking that MX is still their best rated album in P4K |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Nov 25, 2019 11:35:33 GMT -5
Everyday Shite.
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Post by World71R on Nov 25, 2019 11:41:50 GMT -5
Pretty shocking that MX is still their best rated album in P4K Tbf, MX is a really good album, very underrated too. I wish Moving to Mars was on there, instead of Princess of China, because I'd regard it as an electronic art-pop masterpiece, but it's still a really good album. It's the last time the band really felt like a whole band all the way through the album. |
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