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Post by GivemeGin&tonic on Sept 22, 2019 12:53:37 GMT -5
I wouldn’t be surprised if in 10-15 years time once he’s done everything he can solo and the hype starts to fade. I could see him doing either of the first two albums in full with Bonehead and whoever else he could get under the Oasis name as massive outdoor shows. No new records, he’s smart enough not to go down that route. I won’t be that long he will be well into his 60s! I expect this in 3 or 4 years max |
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Post by andrewmattycoles on Sept 22, 2019 13:22:53 GMT -5
Jesus this thread need not be some painful to read.
So guessing it boils down to ownership of the name oasis and the rights to the name owed by the record company. It probably would have been a trademark of the record company...so i don’t think it is to do with Noel anymore.
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Post by shannee on Sept 22, 2019 14:37:57 GMT -5
Look it up on the Uk trademark website. It’s probably owned by either Sony or Big brother. If BB Liam will need Noel’s permission and Noel will probably need Liam’s permission, unless Noel has a larger controlling share
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Post by emil on Sept 22, 2019 14:40:06 GMT -5
Never heard of a record company owning a rockbands name/brand...
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Post by shannee on Sept 22, 2019 14:46:24 GMT -5
Here ya go, the trademark
Holder's name
OASIS, a UK Partnership consisting of the UK citizens Noel Gallagher and Liam Gallagher
c/o Ignition Management, London, NW1 6HL, United Kingdom
Dates
Filing date
26 July 1996
Date of entry in register
08 January 2002
Renewal date
26 July 2026
I don’t know if it’s something that a record co normally does but I bet a lot of bands don’t think to do it which leaves the door open for someone else to swoop in and take advantage
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Post by shannee on Sept 22, 2019 14:53:55 GMT -5
It’s interesting how they’ve filed it. As a partnership consisting of the two brothers. I wonder if that is legally binding meaning it can never be anything else.
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Post by GivemeGin&tonic on Sept 22, 2019 14:59:06 GMT -5
Reunion 2027
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Post by andrewmattycoles on Sept 22, 2019 15:00:52 GMT -5
I’ll set a reminder for me to file the trademark when it expires |
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Post by LlAM on Sept 22, 2019 15:01:33 GMT -5
It’s interesting how they’ve filed it. As a partnership consisting of the two brothers. I wonder if that is legally binding meaning it can never be anything else. I would think so. I would say one of them or both could refuse to renew in 2026, leaving it for the other, someone completely different or no one to own the rights to the name? Can't see anything else happen but both of them renewing together. Reunion? 😎 |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2019 15:02:35 GMT -5
Liam and Noel both have 120 shares, Marcus Russel has 30 and someone called McKinley has 30. The information is available online.
So I guess if Noel or Liam would sell his shares they could dissolve their partnership.
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Post by emil on Sept 22, 2019 15:03:43 GMT -5
Here ya go, the trademark Holder's name OASIS, a UK Partnership consisting of the UK citizens Noel Gallagher and Liam Gallagher c/o Ignition Management, London, NW1 6HL, United Kingdom Dates Filing date 26 July 1996 Date of entry in register 08 January 2002 Renewal date 26 July 2026 I don’t know if it’s something that a record co normally does but I bet a lot of bands don’t think to do it which leaves the door open for someone else to swoop in and take advantage But why would it be only Noel and Liam, and not the full then-band? |
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Post by LlAM on Sept 22, 2019 15:04:24 GMT -5
Liam and Noel both have 120 shares, Marcus Russel has 30 and someone called McKinley has 30. The information is available online. So I guess if Noel or Liam would sell his shares they could dissolve their partnership. Shares in a Trademark? 🤔 |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2019 15:06:40 GMT -5
Liam and Noel both have 120 shares, Marcus Russel has 30 and someone called McKinley has 30. The information is available online. So I guess if Noel or Liam would sell his shares they could dissolve their partnership. Shares in a Trademark? 🤔 I meant their company. |
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Post by shannee on Sept 22, 2019 15:10:49 GMT -5
It’s interesting how they’ve filed it. As a partnership consisting of the two brothers. I wonder if that is legally binding meaning it can never be anything else. I would think so. I would say one of them or both could refuse to renew in 2026, leaving it for the other, someone completely different or no one to own the rights to the name? Can't see anything else happen but both of them renewing together. Reunion? 😎 Imminent |
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Post by shannee on Sept 22, 2019 15:12:47 GMT -5
Here ya go, the trademark Holder's name OASIS, a UK Partnership consisting of the UK citizens Noel Gallagher and Liam Gallagher c/o Ignition Management, London, NW1 6HL, United Kingdom Dates Filing date 26 July 1996 Date of entry in register 08 January 2002 Renewal date 26 July 2026 I don’t know if it’s something that a record co normally does but I bet a lot of bands don’t think to do it which leaves the door open for someone else to swoop in and take advantage But why would it be only Noel and Liam, and not the full then-band? Very interesting right! Totally equal between the brothers but no mention of bonehead or guigsy in 96 |
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Post by shannee on Sept 22, 2019 15:15:24 GMT -5
I’ll set a reminder for me to file the trademark when it expires Considering ignition is on the case, you might get it! 😂 |
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Post by standbymoi on Sept 22, 2019 16:40:38 GMT -5
I wouldn’t be surprised if in 10-15 years time once he’s done everything he can solo and the hype starts to fade. I could see him doing either of the first two albums in full with Bonehead and whoever else he could get under the Oasis name as massive outdoor shows. No new records, he’s smart enough not to go down that route. I won’t be that long he will be well into his 60s! I expect this in 3 or 4 years max Possible though. Roger Daltry 75, still touring with the Who, but a few years back he went out on his own when Townsend didn’t want to tour under the name ‘Daltry plays Tommy live’ or something |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2019 16:54:39 GMT -5
Noel and Liam are what we call 'full partners' in the music industry. They split album sales, out side of ASCAP. Gem and andy are basically hired guns, they don't have a hand in the estate. The original lineup has probably sold off to Noel and Liam. Liam would need to pay or convince Noel to let him use the name. No matter what, Noel would get a cut of the revenue unless Liam purchased his share. I hope this concludes this thread and any and all confusion.
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Post by emil on Sept 22, 2019 17:09:50 GMT -5
Noel and Liam are what we call 'full partners' in the music industry. They split album sales, out side of ASCAP. Gem and andy are basically hired guns, they don't have a hand in the estate. The original lineup has probably sold off to Noel and Liam. Liam would need to pay or convince Noel to let him use the name. No matter what, Noel would get a cut of the revenue unless Liam purchased his share. I hope this concludes this thread and any and all confusion. So has e.g. Bonehead ever been part of owning the band/brand/name ? They were all equal partners in the beginning, but got paid off when they left? |
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Post by Binary Sunset on Sept 22, 2019 17:31:13 GMT -5
Well, my question is about if it is possible, legally. Not if it's a good or bad idea. I think he could've kept the Oasis name going legally immediately after Noel left, but not anymore. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2019 17:35:31 GMT -5
Noel and Liam are what we call 'full partners' in the music industry. They split album sales, out side of ASCAP. Gem and andy are basically hired guns, they don't have a hand in the estate. The original lineup has probably sold off to Noel and Liam. Liam would need to pay or convince Noel to let him use the name. No matter what, Noel would get a cut of the revenue unless Liam purchased his share. I hope this concludes this thread and any and all confusion. So has e.g. Bonehead ever been part of owning the band/brand/name ? They were all equal partners in the beginning, but got paid off when they left? They were all full partners, if Tony, guigs, and Bonehead were smart, they would've gotten royalties for albums that they weren't apart of just by being in the partnership. My guess is they gave em a few million to fuck off. |
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Post by shannee on Sept 22, 2019 18:02:28 GMT -5
Getting royalties from a record contract is completely separate and different issue from owning the trademark of the name oasis. One could look and see if there was ever a trademark filed from 94-96 that registered oasis differently, to the band as a whole for example. I doubt it though, I didn’t see it listed.
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Post by parkamonkey93 on Sept 22, 2019 18:24:27 GMT -5
He could call it Liam Gallagher and Friends.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Sept 22, 2019 18:57:46 GMT -5
Nobody needs Beady Eye chapter 3. Been there. Done that. I thought that you were one of the most intelligent members.. BEHAVE YERSELF.  |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Sept 22, 2019 18:59:13 GMT -5
He could call it Liam Gallagher and Friends. Liam Gallagher’s Parka Monkehs |
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