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Post by spaneli on Aug 22, 2019 11:30:27 GMT -5
Noel is about to make a significant profit off a massive tour and by peddling three EPs without putting in much work in promotion and without betting much if anything.
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Post by MONO on Aug 22, 2019 11:30:32 GMT -5
That's why pointing out his streaming numbers is bascially saying nothing. No. In a world with a dying physical market, it says everything. |
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Post by spaneli on Aug 22, 2019 11:31:20 GMT -5
That's why pointing out his streaming numbers is bascially saying nothing. No. In a world with a dying physical market, it says everything. It says Noel's team has a different business model. That's it. |
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Post by MONO on Aug 22, 2019 11:32:06 GMT -5
It says Noel's team has a different business model. That's it. No. It says he has a different audience. And his music becomes less relevant. |
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Post by spaneli on Aug 22, 2019 11:35:12 GMT -5
It says Noel's team has a different business model. That's it. No. It says he has a different audience. And his music becomes less relevant. Shrugs All we can go by are album and tour sales, and both of those have been rock solid. Anything past that is making mountains out of molehills. |
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Post by mossy on Aug 22, 2019 11:36:47 GMT -5
That's why pointing out his streaming numbers is bascially saying nothing. No. In a world with a dying physical market, it says everything. This statement isn’t quite true. Vinyl sales are actually increasing. It’s a niche market but clearly profitable for Noel who consistently tops the physical charts. You said the EP didn’t chart but I think it was actually ineligible due to the number of tracks. Still clearly a profitable enterprise for Noely Poly, especially as he gets all the royalties being independent with no co-writers. X  |
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Post by spaneli on Aug 22, 2019 11:41:03 GMT -5
No. In a world with a dying physical market, it says everything. This statement isn’t quite true. Vinyl sales are actually increasing. It’s a niche market but clearly profitable for Noel who consistently tops the physical charts. You said the EP didn’t chart but I think it was actually ineligible due to the number of tracks. Still clearly a profitable enterprise for Noely Poly, especially as he gets all the royalties being independent with no co-writers. X Bingo. Does Noel make more money investing in Spotify for higher chart placements or 3 deluxe EPs that he can upcharge? The difference is obvious. |
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Post by MONO on Aug 22, 2019 11:42:12 GMT -5
No. In a world with a dying physical market, it says everything. This statement isn’t quite true. Vinyl sales are actually increasing. It’s a niche market but clearly profitable for Noel who consistently tops the physical charts. It is true. Vinyl sales may be rising but CD sales are dying faster. And if it had so much impact: why is his music less sucessfull although he releases it in more and more (vinyl) formats? You said the EP didn’t chart but I think it was actually ineligible due to the number of tracks. Still clearly a profitable enterprise for Noely Poly, especially as he gets all the royalties being independent with no co-writers. X The singles didn't chart as well.
Of course it remains profitable!
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Post by mossy on Aug 22, 2019 11:44:50 GMT -5
This statement isn’t quite true. Vinyl sales are actually increasing. It’s a niche market but clearly profitable for Noel who consistently tops the physical charts. It is true. Vinyl sales may be rising but CD sales are dying faster. And if it had so much impact: why is his music less sucessfull although he releases it in more and more (vinyl) formats? You said the EP didn’t chart but I think it was actually ineligible due to the number of tracks. Still clearly a profitable enterprise for Noely Poly, especially as he gets all the royalties being independent with no co-writers. X The singles didn't chart as well.
Of course it remains profitable!
Noel should just retire now hey? Clearly he’s making a massive loss and his band and crew are working for free on goodwill. X |
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Post by MONO on Aug 22, 2019 11:46:20 GMT -5
Noel should just retire now hey? Clearly he’s making a massive loss and his band and crew are working for free on goodwill. X I cannot read this anywhere in my postings. |
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Post by spaneli on Aug 22, 2019 11:51:28 GMT -5
This statement isn’t quite true. Vinyl sales are actually increasing. It’s a niche market but clearly profitable for Noel who consistently tops the physical charts. It is true. Vinyl sales may be rising but CD sales are dying faster. And if it had so much impact: why is his music less sucessfull although he releases it in more and more (vinyl) formats? You said the EP didn’t chart but I think it was actually ineligible due to the number of tracks. Still clearly a profitable enterprise for Noely Poly, especially as he gets all the royalties being independent with no co-writers. X The singles didn't chart as well.
Of course it remains profitable!
Who sells CDs anymore? I don't even think you can buy the EPs in that format. Noel has moved on from the CD as the dominant physical format, like everyone else, and has bought into the speciality/multiple vinyl format market instead. And it's obviously very profitable for him. |
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Post by mossy on Aug 22, 2019 11:54:11 GMT -5
It is true. Vinyl sales may be rising but CD sales are dying faster. And if it had so much impact: why is his music less sucessfull although he releases it in more and more (vinyl) formats? The singles didn't chart as well.
Of course it remains profitable!
Who sells CDs anymore? I don't even think you can buy the EPs in that format. Noel has moved on from the CD as the dominant physical format, like everyone else, and has bought into the speciality/multiple vinyl format market instead. And it's obviously very profitable for him. Yeah, he’s not done CD singles since the first album cycle in 2012 I think. Same for most other artists too. With my massive CD collection I’m very hip and way ahead of the Compact Disc revival which is coming in a few years ;-D X |
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Post by MONO on Aug 22, 2019 11:54:36 GMT -5
Who sells CDs anymore? I don't even think you can buy the EPs in that format. Noel has moved on from the CD as the dominant physical format, like everyone else, and has bought into the speciality/multiple vinyl format market instead. And it's obviously very profitable for him. Are you sure you got my postings? Because I am not. |
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Post by spaneli on Aug 22, 2019 11:59:59 GMT -5
Who sells CDs anymore? I don't even think you can buy the EPs in that format. Noel has moved on from the CD as the dominant physical format, like everyone else, and has bought into the speciality/multiple vinyl format market instead. And it's obviously very profitable for him. Are you sure you got my postings? Because I am not. You keep asking the same question to what's already been answered. He's relying solely on the vinyl format. He's not charting as high with the greater variety of formats because he's bascially ignoring streaming, which counts toward the charts. He's ignoring streaming because he's looking solely for profit, not for higher chartings. Relying on vinyls grants him the same profits CDs once did, without spending extra money on streaming, while only sacrificing a couple extra spots on the charts because there's not that much extra prestige between charting at #31 or 21. |
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Post by mossy on Aug 22, 2019 12:05:25 GMT -5
Are you sure you got my postings? Because I am not. You keep asking the same question to what's already been answered. He's relying solely on the vinyl format. He's not charting as high with the greater variety of formats because he's bascially ignoring streaming, which counts toward the charts. He's ignoring streaming because he's looking solely for profit, not for higher chartings. Relying on vinyls grants him the same profits CDs once did, without spending extra money on streaming, while only sacrificing a couple extra spots on the charts because there's not that much extra prestige between charting at #31 or 21. Move on Spaneli. Mono has proved beyond a doubt that Noel is a failure. We all need to start appreciating some real artists now, who have decent streams and chart positions. Like Dua Lipa... . |
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Post by mossy on Aug 22, 2019 12:08:38 GMT -5
Noel should just retire now hey? Clearly he’s making a massive loss and his band and crew are working for free on goodwill. X I cannot read this anywhere in my postings.  X |
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Post by MONO on Aug 22, 2019 12:15:58 GMT -5
He's relying solely on the vinyl format. So that's the reason people don't listen to his songs? Because you can't stream a record? He's not charting as high with the greater variety of formats because he's bascially ignoring streaming, which counts toward the charts. He's not ignoring streaming. Users are ignoring his new music. He's ignoring streaming because he's looking solely for profit, not for higher chartings. Higher chartings = higher profits. Relying on vinyls grants him the same profits CDs once did, I'm sure you can prove that. without spending extra money on streaming, More inside knowledge from you  while only sacrificing a couple extra spots on the charts because there's not that much extra prestige between charting at #31 or 21. I thought it was about profit? Mono has proved beyond a doubt that Noel is a failure. His new music is not as popular as the older solo tunes. If you want to call this a failure: I won't stop you. |
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Post by dampcottage on Aug 22, 2019 12:26:43 GMT -5
In Noels next interview he will say how he loves looking at a blue sky on a sunny day, followed by a social media onslaught consisting of statements such as "arrogant fookin Tory boy has forgot where he comes from, it's never fookin sunny in Manchester, I won't be buying anything he releases again" it's only music, not life and fuckin death
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Post by mossy on Aug 22, 2019 12:34:28 GMT -5
He's relying solely on the vinyl format. So that's the reason people don't listen to his songs? Because you can't stream a record? He's not charting as high with the greater variety of formats because he's bascially ignoring streaming, which counts toward the charts. He's not ignoring streaming. Users are ignoring his new music. He's ignoring streaming because he's looking solely for profit, not for higher chartings. Higher chartings = higher profits. Relying on vinyls grants him the same profits CDs once did, I'm sure you can prove that. without spending extra money on streaming, More inside knowledge from you while only sacrificing a couple extra spots on the charts because there's not that much extra prestige between charting at #31 or 21. I thought it was about profit? Mono has proved beyond a doubt that Noel is a failure. His new music is not as popular as the older solo tunes. If you want to call this a failure: I won't stop you. . |
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Post by dampcottage on Aug 22, 2019 12:39:55 GMT -5
So that's the reason people don't listen to his songs? Because you can't stream a record? He's not ignoring streaming. Users are ignoring his new music. Higher chartings = higher profits. I'm sure you can prove that. More inside knowledge from you I thought it was about profit? His new music is not as popular as the older solo tunes. If you want to call this a failure: I won't stop you. . keep these coming |
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Post by mossy on Aug 22, 2019 13:11:45 GMT -5
Spotify streams come down to plays, but like anything, those plays comes down to how much money you're willing to pay. Getting significant Spotify streams isn't difficult. Much of the time, labels make sure artists land on the hot playlists, thereby driving up streams, which then drive up the charting. Liam with Wall of Glass showed up on multiple big playlists even before One Love. That's not an accident. That's Warner. Noel's team clearly hasn't invested the same energy or money into Spotify. They believe their better bet is physical sales, which leads to diminishing returns with chart placements, but still gives Noel the same steady income. That's why pointing out his streaming numbers is bascially saying nothing. I think Liam just appeals more to young Oasis fans from the new generation. Where as fat dads buy Noels records. Those fat dads got to see Oasis in their absolute prime. X |
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Post by dadrocker on Aug 22, 2019 13:49:10 GMT -5
I think Liam just appeals more to young Oasis fans from the new generation. Where as fat dads buy Noels records. Those fat dads got to see Oasis in their absolute prime. X Amen. |
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Post by fartpanic on Aug 22, 2019 15:59:16 GMT -5
In Noels next interview he will say how he loves looking at a blue sky on a sunny day, followed by a social media onslaught consisting of statements such as "arrogant fookin Tory boy has forgot where he comes from, it's never fookin sunny in Manchester, I won't be buying anything he releases again" it's only music, not life and fuckin death Hes being called a tory boy because hes made it pretty clear his opinion is i have loads of money and fuck the rest of you. Hes brought everything on himself with all he's said. |
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Post by mossy on Aug 22, 2019 16:08:58 GMT -5
In Noels next interview he will say how he loves looking at a blue sky on a sunny day, followed by a social media onslaught consisting of statements such as "arrogant fookin Tory boy has forgot where he comes from, it's never fookin sunny in Manchester, I won't be buying anything he releases again" it's only music, not life and fuckin death Hes being called a tory boy because hes made it pretty clear his opinion is i have loads of money and fuck the rest of you. This is news to you? X |
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Post by dampcottage on Aug 22, 2019 16:10:12 GMT -5
In Noels next interview he will say how he loves looking at a blue sky on a sunny day, followed by a social media onslaught consisting of statements such as "arrogant fookin Tory boy has forgot where he comes from, it's never fookin sunny in Manchester, I won't be buying anything he releases again" it's only music, not life and fuckin death Hes being called a tory boy because hes made it pretty clear his opinion is i have loads of money and fuck the rest of you. Hes brought everything on himself with all he's said. that applies to anyone with plenty of money, not just Tory supporter's, those lucky enough to have don't give a fuck about those who don't, and if I was lucky enough I wouldn't give a fuck either, I've paid my dues so to speak, unfortunately I still fall in the bracket of those that don't, but I would never begrudge people like Noel and Liam who dragged themselves out of the shite with talent and determination (and a fair slice of luck), it's impossible to be the same person once money enters the equation, and I don't care about Noels opinion of me any more than he cares about mine of him |
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