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Post by lahaine on Jun 17, 2019 12:56:53 GMT -5
I think a few things came to hit them hard, a lot of the guy's in the band sobered up and wanted in on the songwriting duties after it just been Julian for the first two albums. Also Julian just not been bothered really with The Strokes, it just feels to me that he rather been his solo stuff and he only goes back to The Strokes for a nice pay day. For me the first two albums are fantastic, but after that it got far too patchy for me. First impressions of Earth, first 4 songs are classic Strokes then it got patchy after that. They can always churn out a new album and tour on the back of the first album fame, that album will always keep them up in the cool band canon for decades. The other thing that hammered them to a degree and I only learned this maybe 5-6 years after their debut when the internet became better at looking shit up, is everyone in the band come from a rich family. Being a stroke was part of their early 20s rebellion years. They could always slum it and live in Manhattan making music because money was never an issue for any of them. Nobody lives in Manhattan like that at an early age. Especially a rock band! Definitely did help them that they were trust fund babies that's for sure, they never had to fight their way to get to be rich rock stars as they always had the wealth. The drive never seemed to be there. When you hear a band like Oasis especially from their debut, you can hear a band dreaming and wanting to be something they weren't world famous rich rock stars. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jun 17, 2019 13:06:36 GMT -5
The other thing that hammered them to a degree and I only learned this maybe 5-6 years after their debut when the internet became better at looking shit up, is everyone in the band come from a rich family. Being a stroke was part of their early 20s rebellion years. They could always slum it and live in Manhattan making music because money was never an issue for any of them. Nobody lives in Manhattan like that at an early age. Especially a rock band! Definitely did help them that they were trust fund babies that's for sure, they never had to fight their way to get to be rich rock stars as they always had the wealth. The drive never seemed to be there. When you hear a band like Oasis especially from their debut, you can hear a band dreaming and wanting to be something they weren't world famous rich rock stars. Oasis didn’t save anything for the swim back. There was nothing to return. Only a future they created. |
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Post by oasisserbia on Jun 18, 2019 9:31:23 GMT -5
Beatles
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Post by Bonehead's Barber on Jul 1, 2019 10:48:02 GMT -5
The Killers. Fantastic first album. Unfortunately it is all naff after that. As much as I love them.
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Post by lahaine on Jul 1, 2019 13:21:50 GMT -5
The Killers. Fantastic first album. Unfortunately it is all naff after that. As much as I love them. Surprised I've seen a few say that, I thought most agreed that after Sam's Town it was downhill. But guess not on here. |
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Post by russiangenius on Jul 1, 2019 13:33:46 GMT -5
Boston, The Darkness, Elastica, Electric Six... lol, somebody in this forum knows about Electric Six btw they still doing well, having 14 studio albums but with no real hype of course. And yeah, this music is far far away from Oasis standards, they're just weirdos |
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Post by Bonehead's Barber on Jul 1, 2019 13:39:06 GMT -5
The Killers. Fantastic first album. Unfortunately it is all naff after that. As much as I love them. Surprised I've seen a few say that, I thought most agreed that after Sam's Town it was downhill. But guess not on here. They have a few hits on each album, but they're very much a singles band. That first album is phenomenal, though |
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Post by beentherenow on Jul 1, 2019 14:03:55 GMT -5
The Killers 2nd album is actually better than the 1st IMO but then after that they did indeed go a bit crap
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Post by 2nz on Jul 3, 2019 16:56:10 GMT -5
Razorlight were done from before the first album coming out- the thing that made that album so good was the drumming, and he left before the album launched.
Libertines only have 1 good album, the self titled one has its moments but is poor enough.
Most bands from the mid 90s-mid 20s fit in this category.
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Post by morning_rain on Jul 6, 2019 12:18:44 GMT -5
The Vines and Interpol
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Post by lahaine on Jul 6, 2019 15:56:09 GMT -5
The Vines for sure, never came close to topping their debut album. Although the 2nd and 3rd albums had some good stuff on them. But that Highly Evolved had some stunners on it, stuff like Mary Jane, Factory, Get Free, Outtaway, Sunshinin, Autumn Shade and especially Homesick, that outro is just stunning. Interpol, their debut is their greatest work for sure. Although I like Antics a lot. Although after that they haven't been as strong but they have fans that stick up for their later work. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2019 1:44:51 GMT -5
The Rolling Stones
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Post by morning_rain on Jul 7, 2019 4:23:19 GMT -5
The Vines for sure, never came close to topping their debut album. Although the 2nd and 3rd albums had some good stuff on them. But that Highly Evolved had some stunners on it, stuff like Mary Jane, Factory, Get Free, Outtaway, Sunshinin, Autumn Shade and especially Homesick, that outro is just stunning. Interpol, their debut is their greatest work for sure. Although I like Antics a lot. Although after that they haven't been as strong but they have fans that stick up for their later work. Yeah The Vines 2nd and 3rd albums are also quite good (Ride, Winning Days, FTW, Spaceship, Don't listen to the radio...) but they lost it from that moment I think. There are some good songs on their later albums too, but they try so hard to replicate the sound of Highly Evolved. And I agree, Antics is great. I lost track on Interpol after the self titled, but I listened recently to Marauder and in terms of sound it reminded me a lot of those first albums, but it lacked some soul and most songs seemed unfinished. |
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Post by lahaine on Jul 23, 2019 5:25:25 GMT -5
The Vines for sure, never came close to topping their debut album. Although the 2nd and 3rd albums had some good stuff on them. But that Highly Evolved had some stunners on it, stuff like Mary Jane, Factory, Get Free, Outtaway, Sunshinin, Autumn Shade and especially Homesick, that outro is just stunning. Interpol, their debut is their greatest work for sure. Although I like Antics a lot. Although after that they haven't been as strong but they have fans that stick up for their later work. Yeah The Vines 2nd and 3rd albums are also quite good (Ride, Winning Days, FTW, Spaceship, Don't listen to the radio...) but they lost it from that moment I think. There are some good songs on their later albums too, but they try so hard to replicate the sound of Highly Evolved. And I agree, Antics is great. I lost track on Interpol after the self titled, but I listened recently to Marauder and in terms of sound it reminded me a lot of those first albums, but it lacked some soul and most songs seemed unfinished. Nothing comes close to that debut album when it comes to The Vines, Winning Day's is a decent album and the 3rd album was a bit above the 2nd album but the other albums have been disappointing. Yeah I'm with you they never got me back after the self titled third album, that album was meh. Shame. Their debut album is a cracker. |
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Post by lahaine on Jul 23, 2019 5:28:45 GMT -5
Another band comes to mind for this list are the Aussie band The Temper Trap and New Zealand band The Naked and The Famous. Fantastic debut albums but following albums have been meh at best.
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Post by lahaine on Jul 23, 2019 5:33:32 GMT -5
Razorlight were done from before the first album coming out- the thing that made that album so good was the drumming, and he left before the album launched. Libertines only have 1 good album, the self titled one has its moments but is poor enough. Most bands from the mid 90s-mid 20s fit in this category. Also Johnny Borrell started to believe he was the second coming of Bono, was another downfall. Also didn't help Andy Burrows, the drummer who replaced the guy from the first album was writing all their best material and Borrell ended up falling out with him. But agree their debut album was the best thing they did. The reason the Libertines are so held up as this great British band is of Doherty's drug antics as we know fan's and music mags love a good drug casualty in waiting. Their debut, and stand alone singles What A Waster and Don't look Back Into The Sun are great and agree that the second album has moments but it's far too hit and miss. Their third album was disappointing imo. |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Jul 28, 2019 17:08:39 GMT -5
A case to be made for The Beach Boys. There are good albums either side of Pet Sounds but to many, some will either think there’s a lot of filler (pre-Pet Sounds) or on a proper effort like Surfs Up, have already gone well beyond their peak. While Pet Sounds is obviously their masterpiece, and IMO one of the best albums ever made (and I know shitloads of people agree), their run from Today up and until Surf's Up is pretty good. |
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Post by The Escapist on Jul 29, 2019 8:02:00 GMT -5
Mostly all debuts here so I was wondering has any act ever released one great album in the middle of their career with everything either side of it bang average? Not necessarily everything either side being bang average but Blood On The Tracks To even think about putting Dylan's 60's material anywhere near the "average" category is mental. Blood on the Tracks might well be his best, but The Freewheelin' Bob Dylan, Bringing it All Back Home, Highway 61 Revisited, and Blonde on Blonde are all classic records too. Not to mention gems like Desire, Nashville Skyline, and Time out of Mind in the rest of his career. |
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Post by tomlivesforever on Jul 29, 2019 8:28:28 GMT -5
Not necessarily everything either side being bang average but Blood On The Tracks To even think about putting Dylan's 60's material anywhere near the "average" category is mental. Blood on the Tracks might well be his best, but The Freewheelin' Bob Dylan, Bringing it All Back Home, Highway 61 Revisited, and Blonde on Blonde are all classic records too. Not to mention gems like Desire, Nashville Skyline, and Time out of Mind in the rest of his career. Oh absolutely, I meant more the albums in the vicinity of Blood On The Tracks, the 70's primarily. New Morning, Planet Waves and Nashville Skyline one side which are not terrible but don't compare with his best work and Desire and Street Legal on the other, Desire being a Gem and Street Legal being a mess albeit having three of his best songs on it. |
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Post by norkbauer on Jul 29, 2019 8:33:35 GMT -5
Pearl Jam. I never could get any of their albums besides Ten.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jul 29, 2019 9:41:27 GMT -5
Pearl Jam. I never could get any of their albums besides Ten. This wounds the soul. |
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Post by norkbauer on Jul 29, 2019 9:49:25 GMT -5
Pearl Jam. I never could get any of their albums besides Ten. This wounds the soul. I felt the same when I saw "Black Rebel Motorcycle Club" on the first page  |
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Post by The Escapist on Jul 29, 2019 10:30:10 GMT -5
To even think about putting Dylan's 60's material anywhere near the "average" category is mental. Blood on the Tracks might well be his best, but The Freewheelin' Bob Dylan, Bringing it All Back Home, Highway 61 Revisited, and Blonde on Blonde are all classic records too. Not to mention gems like Desire, Nashville Skyline, and Time out of Mind in the rest of his career. Oh absolutely, I meant more the albums in the vicinity of Blood On The Tracks, the 70's primarily. New Morning, Planet Waves and Nashville Skyline one side which are not terrible but don't compare with his best work and Desire and Street Legal on the other, Desire being a Gem and Street Legal being a mess albeit having three of his best songs on it. Ah, I get you, I thought you were including his whole discography. For the 70s you're definitely right, Blood on the Tracks is on a level of its own. |
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