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Post by The Escapist on Jun 8, 2019 9:47:27 GMT -5
Good question, just had a scan through my library and these were the ones that jumped out at me: - Adele (21)- Beirut (The Flying Club Cup)- Chance the Rapper (Acid Rap)- J Cole (Forest Hill Drive)- Future (DS2)I would personally also argue Drake with Never Was the Same, but most people prefer his earlier album Take Care so it wouldn't be the best example. 21 is the only album that will endure for Adele for sure. But Beirut - thought they still had a lot of goodwill creatively even if they’re not massive? Also, isn’t Chance The Rapper also massively revered with his albums (I wouldn’t know as I don’t listen but got the impression he’d released a spate of great albums). Chance is a bit of a funny one. His first mixtape was for sure well received, but Acid Rap is the one that really got love, so much so that a lot of people consider it to be the best mixtape ever, and so it's sort of become considered an album because of that. Colouring Book, his third tape or first album depending on who you sk, got critical acclaim and won a Grammy, but most fans found it disappointing. Now he makes hit-or-miss singles (I Might Need Security last year was fantastic, Groceries from this year was trash), and pops up with similarly inconsistent features. He's still got plenty of time to reassert himself though, what with the possibility of a Kanye collaboration album always on the horizon. At the moment, though, Acid Rap towers like the Burj Khalifa over the rest of his discography. And you're right that a lot of people still enjoy Beirut, for me they just kind of defined what their best sound was with that album and everything since has felt like they've been searching for a slightly different muse without the same success. They are still liked for sure, though.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Jun 8, 2019 20:43:47 GMT -5
Mostly all debuts here so I was wondering has any act ever released one great album in the middle of their career with everything either side of it bang average? Not necessarily everything either side being bang average but Blood On The Tracks
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Post by Manualex on Jun 8, 2019 21:07:00 GMT -5
My Chemical Romance's Black Parade is amazing. The rest of their work has some good songs but none has like that peak as a whole.
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Post by matt on Jun 9, 2019 6:35:17 GMT -5
A case to be made for The Beach Boys. There are good albums either side of Pet Sounds but to many, some will either think there’s a lot of filler (pre-Pet Sounds) or on a proper effort like Surfs Up, have already gone well beyond their peak.
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Post by The Escapist on Jun 9, 2019 6:37:59 GMT -5
My Chemical Romance's Black Parade is amazing. The rest of their work has some good songs but none has like that peak as a whole. Can't believe I missed them, that is definitely the best example.
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Post by lahaine on Jun 9, 2019 9:45:22 GMT -5
Bloc Party took a massive fall after their debut. I know some fan's rate the following albums but for me the debut was such a towering effort that it was a impossible job to follow it up. I've Elastica mention, that's another good one. They could have been huge if that second album had more of the same but they took years and the second album was just so different and underwhelming. The Darkness are another good call. I think they were always going to be a novelty type band. But if they kept turning out hits like the ones on their debut they could have gone on to churn out a bigger career. Also throw in the fact the frontman.main songwriter got a massive coke problem and end up screwing up the bands chances. They've got back together and they are a great live act and some of their following albums have been solid. someone mention Gorillaz and after Demon days nothing quite matched up. But I think Plastic Beach is every bit as good and their following albums are of good quality.
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Post by lahaine on Jun 9, 2019 9:59:09 GMT -5
Definitely Maybe is a total classic but Morning Glory and even Be Here Now saves them from this group. After that it was a massive fall imo The Killers were bought up, but they are a two classic album band both Hot Fuss and Sam's Town are excellent. I know this won't be popular but I think Franz Ferdinand never came close after their debut. I know some fan's go to bat for their following albums but none of them were never quite on the level as their debut for me. Scissor Sisters, still think their debut is pop classic. Mixing of early Elton John and disco, and their cover of Pink Floyd's Comfortably Numb turned into a disco is a masterstroke. After that it got way too campy and they had gems sprinkled on other albums but they never made another from start to finish great album. The Fratellis, a stonker of a debut album with full of hits but faded into mid table indie rock band after. The Hives, Veni Vidi Vicious is a legit top album. Perfectly sums up the band. After that they had the odd great song but became far too filler for me.
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Post by daviesh on Jun 9, 2019 11:14:43 GMT -5
Definitely Maybe is a total classic but Morning Glory and even Be Here Now saves them from this group. After that it was a massive fall imo The Killers were bought up, but they are a two classic album band both Hot Fuss and Sam's Town are excellent. I know this won't be popular but I think Franz Ferdinand never came close after their debut. I know some fan's go to bat for their following albums but none of them were never quite on the level as their debut for me. Scissor Sisters, still think their debut is pop classic. Mixing of early Elton John and disco, and their cover of Pink Floyd's Comfortably Numb turned into a disco is a masterstroke. After that it got way too campy and they had gems sprinkled on other albums but they never made another from start to finish great album. The Fratellis, a stonker of a debut album with full of hits but faded into mid table indie rock band after. The Hives, Veni Vidi Vicious is a legit top album. Perfectly sums up the band. After that they had the odd great song but became far too filler for me. Veni Vidi Vicious is The Hives 2nd album. Can't argue with your other selections. Kings of Leon had two decent album before they went down the pan. The Libertines had two strong albums, nut the third after the reunion was forgettable.
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Post by glider on Jun 9, 2019 12:56:49 GMT -5
The Shore
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Post by mimmihopps on Jun 9, 2019 13:15:52 GMT -5
Their debut album could have been Urbam Hymns Part 2. What a brilliant album was that.
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Post by beentherenow on Jun 9, 2019 15:16:54 GMT -5
It’s all subjective of course but I actually think My Chemical Romance’s Three Cheers for Sweet Revenge is much better than The Black Parade
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2019 10:22:51 GMT -5
Mando Diao
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Post by seanrulesrh on Jun 10, 2019 10:44:40 GMT -5
The Stone Roses The Strokes The Verve (Yes,the verve stays in UH and even that one wasn't that good honestly..) Echosmith The Killers (Hot Fuss is brilliant and they can defend themselves tho)
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Post by lahaine on Jun 11, 2019 5:07:47 GMT -5
Definitely Maybe is a total classic but Morning Glory and even Be Here Now saves them from this group. After that it was a massive fall imo The Killers were bought up, but they are a two classic album band both Hot Fuss and Sam's Town are excellent. I know this won't be popular but I think Franz Ferdinand never came close after their debut. I know some fan's go to bat for their following albums but none of them were never quite on the level as their debut for me. Scissor Sisters, still think their debut is pop classic. Mixing of early Elton John and disco, and their cover of Pink Floyd's Comfortably Numb turned into a disco is a masterstroke. After that it got way too campy and they had gems sprinkled on other albums but they never made another from start to finish great album. The Fratellis, a stonker of a debut album with full of hits but faded into mid table indie rock band after. The Hives, Veni Vidi Vicious is a legit top album. Perfectly sums up the band. After that they had the odd great song but became far too filler for me. Veni Vidi Vicious is The Hives 2nd album. Can't argue with your other selections. Kings of Leon had two decent album before they went down the pan. The Libertines had two strong albums, nut the third after the reunion was forgettable. The Hives first two albums are great, it's mix of 60's garage rock and The Stooges was done to perfection on those. I was just saying Veni Vidi Vicious is their best album to date. I give Kings of Leon that third album Because of The Times too, it's not quite MOR of the following albums but you can hear it sneaking in on a track or two. Nothing beats their first two albums for me. I'm not a massive Libertines fan, never bought into the Pete Doherty act. But Up The Bracket is a fantastic album and Don't Look Back Into The Sun and What A Waster are great stand alone singles. The Self titled album has some great stuff on it but it has a ton of filler on it as well. Can't Stand Me Now,Last Post on the Bulge,The Man Who Would Be King, Music When The Lights Go Out, What Katie Did and What Became of the Likely Lads are all fantastic songs. The Third album was meh
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jun 11, 2019 7:01:37 GMT -5
The Stone Roses The Strokes The Verve (Yes,the verve stays in UH and even that one wasn't that good honestly..) Echosmith The Killers (Hot Fuss is brilliant and they can defend themselves tho) Remember when The Strokes were a thing?
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Post by seanrulesrh on Jun 11, 2019 7:09:44 GMT -5
The Stone Roses The Strokes The Verve (Yes,the verve stays in UH and even that one wasn't that good honestly..) Echosmith The Killers (Hot Fuss is brilliant and they can defend themselves tho) Remember when The Strokes were a thing? Those were the days... Have you heard the new track? It's boring as fuck
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jun 11, 2019 7:13:07 GMT -5
Remember when The Strokes were a thing? Those were the days... Have you heard the new track? It's boring as fuck The one they played at a festival a month or so back? I think I dug it. Sounded like vintage Strokes.
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Post by seanrulesrh on Jun 11, 2019 7:15:15 GMT -5
Those were the days... Have you heard the new track? It's boring as fuck The one they played at a festival a month or so back? I think I dug it. Sounded like vintage Strokes. Yes,Adults Are Talking or something like that. I thought it sounded like Comedown Machine. Just meh. Apparently they got an album coming towards the end of the year,but I'm not too excited.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jun 11, 2019 8:27:54 GMT -5
The one they played at a festival a month or so back? I think I dug it. Sounded like vintage Strokes. Yes,Adults Are Talking or something like that. I thought it sounded like Comedown Machine. Just meh. Apparently they got an album coming towards the end of the year,but I'm not too excited. Not gonna lie. Pretty big Strokes guy back in the day. That was until I bought First Impressions of Earth and knew the party was OFFICIALLY over. Couple of good tunes but that album was a far cry from what The Strokes were and what they meant to people. Yikes.
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Post by seanrulesrh on Jun 11, 2019 9:04:46 GMT -5
Yes,Adults Are Talking or something like that. I thought it sounded like Comedown Machine. Just meh. Apparently they got an album coming towards the end of the year,but I'm not too excited. Not gonna lie. Pretty big Strokes guy back in the day. That was until I bought First Impressions of Earth and knew the party was OFFICIALLY over. Couple of good tunes but that album was a far cry from what The Strokes were and what they meant to people. Yikes. Yes,that album is quite terrible. Too much songs,but except for YOLO,Juicebox,Electricityscape and Ize Of The World the rest is pure fill. I must admit that I enjoyed most songs on Comedown Machine than in FIOE. Tap Out is a tune,All The Time could've been in Is This It. 80s Comedown Machine is a beautiful song and even Slow Animals. But their last EP...ffs that was beyond horrendous.
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Post by lahaine on Jun 15, 2019 10:19:42 GMT -5
Yes,Adults Are Talking or something like that. I thought it sounded like Comedown Machine. Just meh. Apparently they got an album coming towards the end of the year,but I'm not too excited. Not gonna lie. Pretty big Strokes guy back in the day. That was until I bought First Impressions of Earth and knew the party was OFFICIALLY over. Couple of good tunes but that album was a far cry from what The Strokes were and what they meant to people. Yikes. I think a few things came to hit them hard, a lot of the guy's in the band sobered up and wanted in on the songwriting duties after it just been Julian for the first two albums. Also Julian just not been bothered really with The Strokes, it just feels to me that he rather been his solo stuff and he only goes back to The Strokes for a nice pay day. For me the first two albums are fantastic, but after that it got far too patchy for me. First impressions of Earth, first 4 songs are classic Strokes then it got patchy after that. They can always churn out a new album and tour on the back of the first album fame, that album will always keep them up in the cool band canon for decades.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jun 15, 2019 10:42:07 GMT -5
Not gonna lie. Pretty big Strokes guy back in the day. That was until I bought First Impressions of Earth and knew the party was OFFICIALLY over. Couple of good tunes but that album was a far cry from what The Strokes were and what they meant to people. Yikes. I think a few things came to hit them hard, a lot of the guy's in the band sobered up and wanted in on the songwriting duties after it just been Julian for the first two albums. Also Julian just not been bothered really with The Strokes, it just feels to me that he rather been his solo stuff and he only goes back to The Strokes for a nice pay day. For me the first two albums are fantastic, but after that it got far too patchy for me. First impressions of Earth, first 4 songs are classic Strokes then it got patchy after that. They can always churn out a new album and tour on the back of the first album fame, that album will always keep them up in the cool band canon for decades. The other thing that hammered them to a degree and I only learned this maybe 5-6 years after their debut when the internet became better at looking shit up, is everyone in the band come from a rich family. Being a stroke was part of their early 20s rebellion years. They could always slum it and live in Manhattan making music because money was never an issue for any of them. Nobody lives in Manhattan like that at an early age. Especially a rock band!
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Post by pedrobrasil on Jun 15, 2019 11:02:02 GMT -5
I dont get it people who puts oasis here.Yes,the first 3 albums are stronger.But they still made great music after that.
Gas panic Go let it out Where did all go wrong Hindu times Little by little Songbird Stop crying your heart out(big hit all over the world) Born on a different cloud Turn up the sun Lyla Im outta time Falling down And many others
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jun 15, 2019 12:30:55 GMT -5
I dont get it people who puts oasis here.Yes,the first 3 albums are stronger.But they still made great music after that. Gas panic Go let it out Where did all go wrong Hindu times Little by little Songbird Stop crying your heart out(big hit all over the world) Born on a different cloud Turn up the sun Lyla Im outta time Falling down And many others I think it was done out of jest........
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2019 9:49:48 GMT -5
The Stone Roses The Strokes The Verve (Yes,the verve stays in UH and even that one wasn't that good honestly..) Echosmith The Killers (Hot Fuss is brilliant and they can defend themselves tho) Urban Hymns is only their 3rd best album.
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