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Post by bardes on May 4, 2019 4:37:31 GMT -5
Hi people,
I really, really like this song. Chill, funky guitar licks in second vers, guitar solo (!), hell yeah. Finally something different, I was so fucking tired of hearing the same chords progressions over and over again (in style of OASIS). Best song since his first solo album.
Cheers.
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Post by mimmihopps on May 4, 2019 4:50:40 GMT -5
Ive been away past days, so didn't follow the news about this new EP of Noel.
I've pre-ordered a picture disc on my way back home in the train last night.
I'm listening to this song for the first time as I type.
I have a disco ball in my head now. It's clear that Noel is showing us that his Oasis years are long long gone now.
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Post by rnrs001 on May 4, 2019 5:09:55 GMT -5
It's a 5 from me. I couldn't make it til the end as I find this kind of music just so utterly boring. There's no swagger, no attitude. It lacks idendity and it's bland. It doesn't move me and it's just... there, I guess.
Behind all the producing and layers of effects I reckon there's a good song in there somewhere as is often the case with his (over)produced stuff but as for the final result? Nah.
Noel's started to make the kind of music I tried to stray away from and was happy he didn't make. I'm sure this'll make some people happy but I'm not sure it's (what used to be?) his own target audience.
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Post by bt95 on May 4, 2019 5:58:12 GMT -5
Ive been away past days, so didn't follow the news about this new EP of Noel. I've pre-ordered a picture disc on my way back home in the train last night. I'm listening to this song for the first time as I type. I have a disco ball in my head now. It's clear that Noel is showing us that his Oasis years are long long gone now. I had BSD on in the car earlier, then the next song that came on shuffle was STMHTF, then the song after that was Acquiesce. It's incredible to think that these three songs came from the same songwriter, and I really love it. Regardless of opinions on the quality, it's nice to have such a variety now - and by the looks of it the variety will continue to increase. He can't be the 27/28-yr-old writing songs like Acquiesce any more, but the direction he's going in at least means there'll be more off a range. |
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Post by agarvey on May 4, 2019 5:58:58 GMT -5
Complete and Utter Rubbish
Let’s be honest if this was a new tune from anyone
else none of us would give it the time of day.
I am all for a new direction etc as long as there is
still a good tune there and just like WBTM (except for STMHTF) Black Star dancing is just boring and mediocre at best .
I seriously now think Noél has lost the plot completely and perhaps
can’t write decent songs anymore, gives me no joy in saying any of this as new material from Noel used to be something to be very excited about.
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Post by mouth on May 4, 2019 6:08:09 GMT -5
this could have been part of the stranger things soundtrack
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Post by deasy on May 4, 2019 6:45:38 GMT -5
Noel has been going on about releasing Hacienda inspired music with about 25 years and he has finally actually done it. Reliving his youth.
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Post by The Invisible Sun on May 4, 2019 7:09:37 GMT -5
It's such a shame because I think if Noel did a full on dreamy synth album, it would actually be amazing. But it seems like he's never willing to take that next step and fully let go of his past. So he ends up doing a half measure synth imitation filled with rock cliches. That's not a dig on him, mind you. He's done mostly a good job with that sound, ignoring Black Star Dancing. But if he'd take a full measure and forget old style music, he could craft something brilliant, original and modern in the genre while doing his own thing.
No more half measures, Noel.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2019 8:13:33 GMT -5
The next time someone puts on Black Star Dancing....
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Post by neila83 on May 4, 2019 10:11:16 GMT -5
Líam's the one who should be doing what Noël's doing: pushing himself outside of the box, he has the best instrument, a unique voice, and he's wasting it on absolute shit like ' For What Cats Are Worth'..... Thanks. this song would be great with puppies in it though.. and i agree, as soon as the melody isnt there noels songs wont do anything to me anymore. imagine a timeline where these two were in a band. lets call it 'paradise' or 'water in the desert'. that would be something. Danke. Yeh, and we get PAITM and Ain't got nothing. I'd rather not thanks. Also hard for Noel to write with much melody when he's writing for a singer who has lost all range. I imagine that was frustrating. |
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Post by oasis6 on May 4, 2019 10:54:52 GMT -5
It's because his music is pretty bland really. Fans will always rate it differently because of familiarity with the artist and some sort of emotional involvement but if you look at his solo music objectively, it's hardly going to grab people. Especially his latest offerings, you would even say there is a great song in there. Liam's solo stuff may have been very generic and obvious for a Liam record, but you can still hear a song like For What It's Worth and understand why people would really enjoy the song, if you're not overly bothered about artists pushing the boat out and just want to hear a decent solid song. I like the fact Noel tries to go in different directions, i just find his current songwriting to be very weak for the most part, by his own standards. You can experiment AND have good songs. People seem to be giving him a pass for his weak songs and give him praise because he isn't following the same formula. Fine, but plenty of writers go in all sorts of directions while maintaining a high quality of writing. His last album barely registered outside of his hardcore fan base. That's not because it was "different" because it wasn't even that experimental or anything. It was simply because it lacked strong songs. What songs are weak, though? Fort Knox isn't. Holy Mountain certainly isn't. She Taught Me How To Fly isn't. It's A Beautiful World has one of the most soaring choruses he's written in years. DITW could have been released as a b-side and on the Masterplan, let's be honest. His last album got to number 1. And the singles off it 'registered outside of hardcore fanbases' just as much as the singles off Chasing Yesterday did. Holy Mountain will be as familiar to people now as Heat of the Moment was by late 2015, or as The Death Of You And Me was by 2012. Also, by the time last summer had rolled around and he was playing festivals - casuals crowds - the new stuff all went down really well. I've said it before but the Tramlines gig I went to in July is by far the best Noel has been live, and anything but bland. I've found Noel to be fairly consistent over the 3 albums. Each one has about 3 or 4 tracks that really stand out for me and would also be high end Oasis MK2 tracks. There isn't anything overall that I despise, maybe other than the Mexican. There are songs that I find meh and if I'm not in the right mood, I will skip. But I think Noel has at least brought the consistency, even if there is slight blandness to it. |
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Post by The Escapist on May 4, 2019 11:00:24 GMT -5
Complete and Utter Rubbish
Let’s be honest if this was a new tune from anyone
else none of us would give it the time of day.I am all for a new direction etc as long as there is still a good tune there and just like WBTM (except for STMHTF) Black Star dancing is just boring and mediocre at best . I seriously now think Noél has lost the plot completely and perhaps can’t write decent songs anymore, gives me no joy in saying any of this as new material from Noel used to be something to be very excited about. This is like free-form poetry. |
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Post by matt on May 4, 2019 11:01:16 GMT -5
It's such a shame because I think if Noel did a full on dreamy synth album, it would actually be amazing. But it seems like he's never willing to take that next step and fully let go of his past. So he ends up doing a half measure synth imitation filled with rock cliches. That's not a dig on him, mind you. He's done mostly a good job with that sound, ignoring Black Star Dancing. But if he'd take a full measure and forget old style music, he could craft something brilliant, original and modern in the genre while doing his own thing. No more half measures, Noel. I think if Holmes was presiding over this, he’d force Noel to re-do it so to get even further away from old habits. It’s obviously easy to subconsciously fall into those habits as an artist but that’s why you need another creative force who will take you out the comfort zone. That’s what I worry with Noel - you’re always going to be guaranteed a couple of gems with Noel as his own creative self but without guidance it’s most likely you’ll see him fall into dirty habits - e.g. Lock All The Doors, Dream On, Wrong Beach, Mexican, Girl With X Ray Eyes, etc |
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Post by oasis6 on May 4, 2019 11:03:54 GMT -5
i prefer this over every recent noel adventure song. this is probably my favourite gallagher song since 'the death of you and me' I will agree, that out of every Gallagher solo track which has branched out, this one is my favourite. One reason is because this is very Tame Impala-ish so its the sound I want and like. But also because this works with Liam's voice. Noel could not do this song. Just like Liam could not do AKAWAL. I have enjoyed Noel branching away overall, but I have found I do enjoy AKAWAL and TBOTMI more than let's say IABW and STMHTF. |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on May 4, 2019 11:25:17 GMT -5
It’s better than WAL.
It feels disjointed for some reason, though.
At least we have a return of a proper solo, although wish it were longer.
This would make a perfect FIFA 20 soundtrack. Not really a compliment, though.
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Post by RocketMan on May 4, 2019 11:30:09 GMT -5
this song would be great with puppies in it though.. and i agree, as soon as the melody isnt there noels songs wont do anything to me anymore. imagine a timeline where these two were in a band. lets call it 'paradise' or 'water in the desert'. that would be something. Danke. Yeh, and we get PAITM and Ain't got nothing. I'd rather not thanks. Also hard for Noel to write with much melody when he's writing for a singer who has lost all range. I imagine that was frustrating. You shouldnt assume the worst outcome tbh. For me none of noels solo Albums have any longevity. Every single one got boring after a while. Liams solo Album isnt any good either but i still enjoy liams voice and i do believe most of Noels solo stuff would be way better with Liam singing on it. But thats just me, i respect everybody who still enjoys their work but it isnt something i get excited about. I just want a timeline where Noel and Liam reform, go into a Studio with kanye West or Kevin Parker or both and release a New improved oasis Album. But thats unlikely  |
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Post by captaincrankshaft on May 4, 2019 11:31:35 GMT -5
After listening and re-listening and trying my best to like this song I’ve come to the conclusion that it is indeed a great steaming pile of shit. As was the last LP.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on May 4, 2019 11:42:51 GMT -5
Growing on me, tbf.
I do love the different layers.
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Post by Officer Jim Kurring on May 4, 2019 11:49:41 GMT -5
¿Does anyone else feel like the song would be better if it were called 'Black Cat Dancing'?
Maybe it's just me...
God bless.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2019 12:00:44 GMT -5
FFS, this song and this thread both have already jumped the shark, and both are only a few days old.
Fucking Sardy !!!
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Post by jeffrey on May 4, 2019 13:13:41 GMT -5
It's because his music is pretty bland really. Fans will always rate it differently because of familiarity with the artist and some sort of emotional involvement but if you look at his solo music objectively, it's hardly going to grab people. Especially his latest offerings, you would even say there is a great song in there. Liam's solo stuff may have been very generic and obvious for a Liam record, but you can still hear a song like For What It's Worth and understand why people would really enjoy the song, if you're not overly bothered about artists pushing the boat out and just want to hear a decent solid song. I like the fact Noel tries to go in different directions, i just find his current songwriting to be very weak for the most part, by his own standards. You can experiment AND have good songs. People seem to be giving him a pass for his weak songs and give him praise because he isn't following the same formula. Fine, but plenty of writers go in all sorts of directions while maintaining a high quality of writing. His last album barely registered outside of his hardcore fan base. That's not because it was "different" because it wasn't even that experimental or anything. It was simply because it lacked strong songs. What songs are weak, though? Fort Knox isn't. Holy Mountain certainly isn't. She Taught Me How To Fly isn't. It's A Beautiful World has one of the most soaring choruses he's written in years. DITW could have been released as a b-side and on the Masterplan, let's be honest. His last album got to number 1. And the singles off it 'registered outside of hardcore fanbases' just as much as the singles off Chasing Yesterday did. Holy Mountain will be as familiar to people now as Heat of the Moment was by late 2015, or as The Death Of You And Me was by 2012. Also, by the time last summer had rolled around and he was playing festivals - casuals crowds - the new stuff all went down really well. I've said it before but the Tramlines gig I went to in July is by far the best Noel has been live, and anything but bland. Should be careful with absolutes. Your comments are opinion. I personally think HM is utter shit, IABW is decent until the chorus (which ruins it in my opinion), and STMHTF is the definition of bland. It’s personal taste. I don’t dislike the style he’s attempting, I just don’t think he’s good at it and it loses some of the genius that made me love Noel Gallagher. I.e.: songwriting/melodies. Plus his voice sounds weak to me. |
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Post by rebel79 on May 4, 2019 14:06:30 GMT -5
8 to me!!!I read too much crap here!!!
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Post by didthedamage on May 4, 2019 14:25:15 GMT -5
Was pleasantly surprised to hear it on alt radio in Canada last night. I *think* that's the first NG song I've heard on the radio since ITHOTM.
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Post by freddy838 on May 4, 2019 14:38:57 GMT -5
What songs are weak, though? Fort Knox isn't. Holy Mountain certainly isn't. She Taught Me How To Fly isn't. It's A Beautiful World has one of the most soaring choruses he's written in years. DITW could have been released as a b-side and on the Masterplan, let's be honest. His last album got to number 1. And the singles off it 'registered outside of hardcore fanbases' just as much as the singles off Chasing Yesterday did. Holy Mountain will be as familiar to people now as Heat of the Moment was by late 2015, or as The Death Of You And Me was by 2012. Also, by the time last summer had rolled around and he was playing festivals - casuals crowds - the new stuff all went down really well. I've said it before but the Tramlines gig I went to in July is by far the best Noel has been live, and anything but bland. Should be careful with absolutes. Your comments are opinion. I personally think HM is utter shit, IABW is decent until the chorus (which ruins it in my opinion), and STMHTF is the definition of bland. It’s personal taste. I don’t dislike the style he’s attempting, I just don’t think he’s good at it and it loses some of the genius that made me love Noel Gallagher. I.e.: songwriting/melodies. Plus his voice sounds weak to me. I agree with everything you say. I always go back to Setting Sun, now that was a great dance tune and based on a strong Oasis demo. I wouldn't br surprised if I enjoyed the AA album a lot more than Noel's recent stuff, but I guess I will never find out. |
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Post by The Escapist on May 4, 2019 16:29:39 GMT -5
I think 6/10 as the top pick is about right. Good song for sure, but nothing special.
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