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Post by neila83 on May 2, 2019 13:32:53 GMT -5
Well if I was Noel and I read this forum I'd be thinking 'fuck you, no more EPs for you miserable lot'.
He finally does what everyone's been begging for for years, and drops a new song overnight and does an EP, and still a lot of people do nothing but complain.
And yes thank god he's entering a new phase of his career. The man is in his 50s and been in the biz for 25 years, I think he's entitled to do a few different things before he dies. It's his life, and not yours.
Those saying he's just trying to be hip really don't know much about Noel or the music he was into in the 80s and 90s...he was a lot more diverse than many realise. That quote beforw about him being boxed in by his fans is exactly true, and painfully obvious from some of what's written here. Oasis are gone, he's moved on, you need to too.
If you don't like the track fine. But not if your reason is 'it*s not Noel Gallagher, I can't cope with change.'
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2019 13:36:40 GMT -5
At 124 votes....
60% are 6 or above.
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The comments however are clearly leaning negative.
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Post by Manualex on May 2, 2019 13:43:22 GMT -5
Not the worst song Noel has done under the HFB moniker. But I think this one has potential to reach an audience that isnt his main fanbase like WAL and HM did. Onwards.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2019 13:46:58 GMT -5
But not if your reason is 'it*s not Noel Gallagher, I can't cope with change.' My reasoning is that it lacks anything that I believe is good about Noel Gallagher and that I don't like this change. Does this meet your opinion acceptability standards?
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Post by Lennon2217 on May 2, 2019 14:32:17 GMT -5
I’m pretty sure Noel has never been hip. So I’m ok with him doing whatever he wants.
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Post by vitamin sea on May 2, 2019 14:45:17 GMT -5
None of you would get a minute into it if it wasn't Noel. Dunno dude. I listen to plenty of dance music that doesn't have NG's name on it. He's also blessed many remixes, so this doesn't seem that out of Leftfield. [I'll show myself out]
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Post by anika on May 2, 2019 14:49:23 GMT -5
The mid-life crisis continues. Absolute garbage. Someone give me a shout when they find the real Noel Gallagher.
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Post by carl80 on May 2, 2019 15:49:35 GMT -5
Had the song on repeat all day , since he went in the direction of trying the new stuff I think this is one of his best songs so far.
Glad he’s still trying the new stuff but my favourite is still his first solo from 2010 or whenever it was.
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Post by tomlivesforever on May 2, 2019 16:09:10 GMT -5
At 124 votes.... 60% are 6 or above. ----- The comments however are clearly leaning negative. Yeah but 7 people gave it a 10. To me that's saying its a good a Gimmie Shelter and errrr that would be wrong obviously.
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Post by mancraider on May 2, 2019 16:30:16 GMT -5
Gave it a 6.
Never really been a fan of Noel's solo career as I don't really like his voice on rock stuff. I don't think it suits him plus he always suffers from comparison to Liam when he sings stuff that you can imagine Liam singing. I'm liking his new direction and have warmed to him as a solo artist since WBTM? This is good and I imagine it'll grow on me more like his album did.
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Post by CFC2013 on May 2, 2019 16:31:38 GMT -5
Had no clue a new song was coming, so this was a pleasant surprise to wake up to this morning. Still not sure what to make of it, but props to Noel for continuing to push himself.
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Post by The Escapist on May 2, 2019 16:53:17 GMT -5
A few listens on headphones have made it grow on me in fairness, the subdued vibe is something I haven't heard from Noel before, and the verse melody is very catchy. The bass is fantastic, but I still have no idea why anyone felt a cheesey guitar solo was needed in such an intimate and vibe-y track. Great verses, okay chorus, unneeded solo, 7/10.
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Post by Manualex on May 2, 2019 16:57:31 GMT -5
A guy from reddit covered BSD
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Post by Aman on May 2, 2019 17:20:05 GMT -5
It's fine to be experimental, but when it's flat stuff like this? 😐
This is hotel lobby music.
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Post by mystoryisgory on May 2, 2019 17:40:19 GMT -5
At 124 votes.... 60% are 6 or above. ----- The comments however are clearly leaning negative. Yeah but 7 people gave it a 10. To me that's saying its a good a Gimmie Shelter and errrr that would be wrong obviously. As the infamous bastid who gave Holy Mountain a 10/10 on release and still maintains that it's a perfect 10, I'd have to agree. It's growing on me but this wouldn't have made it past David Holmes's quality control filter onto WBTM. But it's nice enough, and a welcome change in direction. In fact, I'd argue that this is the song most different stylistically from anything he's ever done before.
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Post by durk on May 2, 2019 17:42:13 GMT -5
i love it 8/10 for me not at all what i was expecting- and cringed all day/avoided playing at work while reading a lot of the negative comments- not wanting to be let down. when i finally allowed myself to listen to it tonight- i really dug it. it's got a great beat- and you can dance to it jk
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Post by tomlivesforever on May 2, 2019 17:44:33 GMT -5
Yeah but 7 people gave it a 10. To me that's saying its a good a Gimmie Shelter and errrr that would be wrong obviously. As the infamous bastid who gave Holy Mountain a 10/10 on release and still maintains that it's a perfect 10, I'd have to agree. It's growing on me but this wouldn't have made it past David Holmes's quality control filter onto WBTM. But it's nice enough, and a welcome change in direction. In fact, I'd argue that this is the song most different stylistically from anything he's ever done before.
I’m not for a second saying I couldn’t understand why people think it’s good but 10/10 are banded round much too easily. That score is reserved for the very best. Funny how a song writer’s newest work makes you reflect on their last effort. Having heard this I almost appreciate Holy Mountain more, it’s definitely a better song.
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Post by matt on May 2, 2019 17:46:14 GMT -5
It’s just too bland for a David Holmes produced track, and sure enough, he doesn’t have a hand in the song as it’s produced by Noel himself. Holmes produced tracks have a real drive to them, this just feels tepid in comparison. It’s mere window dressing isn’t it - more style than substance.
Like I said in an earlier post, he needs a yin to his yang, a collaborator who will push him creatively and force him to rethink. I’m not interested anymore if he doesn’t align himself with world class producers. No matter how hard he tries to dress songs up on his own, he just falls into his comfort zone which is blandness.
There’s no shame in ceding ground to another source of talent in the studio. Very very rarely do you see top solo talents doing it just by themselves - there’s mostly a guru in the studio who will push the artist in a particular direction.
Noel needs that for sure.
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Post by mystoryisgory on May 2, 2019 17:46:38 GMT -5
As the infamous bastid who gave Holy Mountain a 10/10 on release and still maintains that it's a perfect 10, I'd have to agree. It's growing on me but this wouldn't have made it past David Holmes's quality control filter onto WBTM. But it's nice enough, and a welcome change in direction. In fact, I'd argue that this is the song most different stylistically from anything he's ever done before.
I’m not for a second saying I couldn’t understand why people think it’s good but 10/10 are banded round much too easily. That score is reserved for the very best. Funny how a song writer’s newest work makes you reflect on their last effort. Having heard this I almost appreciate Holy Mountain more, it’s definitely a better song. Not disagreeing with you, man. 10 is way too much for this song for me too. And I know you know why people like this song.
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Post by mystoryisgory on May 2, 2019 17:48:22 GMT -5
It’s just too bland for a David Holmes produced track, and sure enough, he doesn’t have a hand in the song as it’s produced by Noel himself. Holmes produced tracks have a real drive to them, this just feels tepid in comparison. Like I said in an earlier post, he needs a yin to his yang, a collaborator who will push him creatively. I’m not interested anymore if he doesn’t align himself with world class producers. No matter how hard he tries to dress songs up on his own, he just falls into his comfort zone which is blandness. There’s no shame in ceding ground to another source of talent in the studio. Very very rarely do you see top solo talents doing it just by themselves - there’s mostly a guru in the studio who will push the artist in a particular direction. Noel needs that for sure. Agreed, Black Star Dancing, if anything, proves that Noel needs Holmes to streamline his experimental tendencies into something more impactful. If Noel had tried making WBTM by himself, it would've sounded like this, and I don't know if I would have enjoyed that.
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Post by bt95 on May 2, 2019 17:50:26 GMT -5
The guitar lick that kicks in after the first refrain/chorus is brilliant. It's so sexy, slick, chilled.
It's a great track.
Suffers from maybe not going 'anywhere' after the solo... but I genuinely think that was done on purpose.
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Post by bt95 on May 2, 2019 17:53:23 GMT -5
As the infamous bastid who gave Holy Mountain a 10/10 on release and still maintains that it's a perfect 10, I'd have to agree. It's growing on me but this wouldn't have made it past David Holmes's quality control filter onto WBTM. But it's nice enough, and a welcome change in direction. In fact, I'd argue that this is the song most different stylistically from anything he's ever done before.
I’m not for a second saying I couldn’t understand why people think it’s good but 10/10 are banded round much too easily. That score is reserved for the very best. Funny how a song writer’s newest work makes you reflect on their last effort. Having heard this I almost appreciate Holy Mountain more, it’s definitely a better song. I gave it a 7 initially and then an 8. Really, it's probably a 7/7.5. If we go that the standard Oasis 7 is like a Digsy's Dinner, maybe (or maybe that's like a 6.5). I really do love parts of this song maybe more than the whole song itself. I love the first half and the solo. After that I feel it's missing something that would take it somewhere else. But I do think that was a stylistic choice. As an aside, not that you're saying this, but I don't think this would have fit at all on WBTM. I don't really think it sounds remotely like anything on that record apart from maybe STMHTF.
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Post by bt95 on May 2, 2019 17:54:51 GMT -5
A few listens on headphones have made it grow on me in fairness, the subdued vibe is something I haven't heard from Noel before, and the verse melody is very catchy. The bass is fantastic, but I still have no idea why anyone felt a cheesey guitar solo was needed in such an intimate and vibe-y track. Great verses, okay chorus, unneeded solo, 7/10. I think the solo works well. Definitely wouldn't describe it as cheesy? But fair enough. The best part for me is the guitar riff that runs from the start of the second verse through to the solo.
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Post by bt95 on May 2, 2019 17:56:59 GMT -5
The lick reminds me so much of this:
(from about 1min 20 in)
and also
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Post by scorpiosonic on May 2, 2019 18:04:30 GMT -5
A guy from reddit covered BSD wow thanks for posting this, it's actually opened my eyes there's a good song here, I would've liked to hear noel do an acoustic / country style version of this tune I guess it's just the production and 80's vibe i strongly dislike. To each their own silver lining
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