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Post by Jack on Oct 18, 2018 4:36:36 GMT -5
Agree with the sentiments made by The Escapist and mattChinatown is a fucking horrid song that should never have been released. FWIW is alright live as a singalong. I don't really go back to it. Not the biggest fan of Wall Of Glass but I do like that it's a bit different. Bold/Greedy Soul/Come Back To Me/I've All I Need/Better Run - they were probably the highlights of the album for me in terms of the 'Oasis style' songs. But songs like Wall Of Glass and Doesn't Have To Be That Way showed Liam has the ability to take songs to a different place and hopefully grow as a solo. Chinatown might actually be my favourite track on the album. I think its such a beautiful song and associate it with many memories from last year. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2018 4:40:48 GMT -5
Chinatown is one of the highlights on the album for me.
The video is great too. I would take another Chinatown over FWIW ballads.
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Post by freddy838 on Oct 18, 2018 8:07:49 GMT -5
I'm looking forward to hearing his vocals on this one, even between the recording of As You Were and the end of the tour he had far more confidence in his voice, with more of his circa 2000 Oasis characteristics showing up and a bit less nasal.
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Post by bathqueen1 on Oct 19, 2018 9:45:47 GMT -5
Overstaying his welcome. he got great reviews and sales for his solo album. shouldve quit as a winner and wait till some coloboration with Noel come up someday Overstaying his welcome after one successful solo album? Its not after one successful albums, its after 20 years of every release including him gets slammed. he was at the top, then played for 200 people with beady eye. the fact he got to go on stage at finsbury again is not something youd expected 5 years ago. not many times you can play this game |
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Post by draper on Oct 19, 2018 9:56:30 GMT -5
Glad he's doing a second album.
Love the fact he's making new music & will tour again.
If it's as good as As You Were, then I'm all for it.
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Post by tezza198 on Oct 20, 2018 3:21:31 GMT -5
The debate of whether he was going to do a second album or not wasn’t even a question. I’d argue Liam is bigger now than what he was in the later days of oasis
When are you expecting the second album to come out?
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Post by tomlivesforever on Oct 20, 2018 5:38:45 GMT -5
Overstaying his welcome after one successful solo album? Its not after one successful albums, its after 20 years of every release including him gets slammed. he was at the top, then played for 200 people with beady eye. the fact he got to go on stage at finsbury again is not something youd expected 5 years ago. not many times you can play this game Your post is utterly baffling and potentiality stupid. |
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Post by mrose on Oct 20, 2018 8:03:17 GMT -5
What I’m worried about is it ending up some cheesy rocky/punky album that’s way too polished and it sounds like when One Direction tried to do a rock song.
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Post by Flashbax on Oct 20, 2018 8:24:48 GMT -5
Any chance he will play the Etihad or Wembley on his next tour in the UK?
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Post by The Escapist on Oct 20, 2018 8:35:36 GMT -5
What I’m worried about is it ending up some cheesy rocky/punky album that’s way too polished and it sounds like when One Direction tried to do a rock song. Same, we know Liam preferred the (clearly superior) live version of Greedy Soul, so hopefully he pushes for that kind of sound on album #2. Liam will be popular as a lovable dickhead rockstar, let him be all those things...throw the occasional For What it's Worth in there for the mums, but keep songs like Wall of Glass as the center of the template. I'm confident in the second album, though; it won't be Definitely Maybe but I fully expect another solid and enjoyable rock-pop album. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Oct 20, 2018 9:11:55 GMT -5
I wish Liam would do an AA album secretly and have it come out really really good and shock Noel and us fans.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Oct 20, 2018 9:13:32 GMT -5
Glad he's doing a second album. Love the fact he's making new music & will tour again. If it's as good as As You Were, then I'm all for it. Like I said in 2009. The brothers both needed proper solo careers. Liam in Oasis minus Noel was a mistake and an extremely difficult task. An uphill battle with no clear victory markers. Solo Liam is his best self post Oasis. |
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Post by tomlivesforever on Oct 20, 2018 9:50:36 GMT -5
Glad he's doing a second album. Love the fact he's making new music & will tour again. If it's as good as As You Were, then I'm all for it. Like I said in 2009. The brothers both needed proper solo careers. Liam in Oasis minus Noel was a mistake and an extremely difficult task. An uphill battle with no clear victory markers. Solo Liam is his best self post Oasis. I agree with your conclusion but Liam would not be where he is now without starting Beady Eye. How open would Liam have been to collaboration on a solo effort in 2009? Would Gem have been producing it ffs? Given the results of his solo venture I'm happy things happened the way they did. There is no way you can say it would ahve been better in 2009, he might have damaged his career beyond repair. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2018 10:02:36 GMT -5
When are you expecting the second album to come out? June(ish) I reckon, but I think As You Were was delayed slightly? So maybe later but definitely a single or two before this. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2018 10:07:09 GMT -5
Any chance he will play the Etihad or Wembley on his next tour in the UK? I think we should expect less gigs but higher capacity venues. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Oct 20, 2018 11:11:06 GMT -5
Like I said in 2009. The brothers both needed proper solo careers. Liam in Oasis minus Noel was a mistake and an extremely difficult task. An uphill battle with no clear victory markers. Solo Liam is his best self post Oasis. I agree with your conclusion but Liam would not be where he is now without starting Beady Eye. How open would Liam have been to collaboration on a solo effort in 2009? Would Gem have been producing it ffs? Given the results of his solo venture I'm happy things happened the way they did. There is no way you can say it would ahve been better in 2009, he might have damaged his career beyond repair. Well like I said in the past. I didn’t expect solo Liam that quickly. I mean Oasis broke up in August 2009. The dust needed to settle for everyone. 2012 sounds about right. I’ve also always assumed solo Liam would mean outside help with songs and proper producer. Everyone assumes he would just fall on Gem or Andy for help. But why? Liam proved with DIV he can do cool things on his own, go potentially down a different road. That collaboration was awesome. That was all Liam and Noel tried to copy that with DBTT/DIV. Beady Eye around BE was Liam rock bottom. Very rock bottom. Career and image were negatively impacted for a few years when he was a punchline to many many jokes and rock n roll cliches. |
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Post by stxparkamonkey on Oct 25, 2018 16:25:03 GMT -5
I was at the gym earlier this morning when Come Back To Me came on and my god the mix on that is atrocious. It sounds great in my car and when I stream it via my surround sound setup at home but on earbuds it just blows IMO.
Let's hope Mark Stent does the mixing for the album in full.
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Post by ninestonecowboy on Nov 4, 2018 11:18:07 GMT -5
classics like BOLD or IVE ALL I NEED. Hahaha classics? come on. |
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Post by ninestonecowboy on Nov 4, 2018 11:22:41 GMT -5
What I’m worried about is it ending up some cheesy rocky/punky album that’s way too polished and it sounds like when One Direction tried to do a rock song. it shouldn't be if Andrew Wyatt is involved. His music is anything but cheesy. if he's using songwriters then i'd prefer to see Andrew Wyatt involved more. Greg Kurstin is capable of cheesy music though when it comes to writing but he's a good producer. Then again, a good portion of the oasis back catalogue is very cheesy. |
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Post by tezza198 on Nov 5, 2018 4:30:39 GMT -5
classics like BOLD or IVE ALL I NEED. Hahaha classics? come on. Umm yeah? They are |
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Post by ninestonecowboy on Nov 5, 2018 5:24:48 GMT -5
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Post by tomlivesforever on Nov 5, 2018 5:47:37 GMT -5
If they are to Tezza then that's that. I happen to think both are very good songs and if someone considers them to be great then fine. |
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Post by ninestonecowboy on Nov 5, 2018 7:37:57 GMT -5
If they are to Tezza then that's that. I happen to think both are very good songs and if someone considers them to be great then fine. Yeah but that doesn't mean something is an actual classic. A classic is something that is revered over a period of time and the general consensus being that it is worthy of that status and recognised as such, even if it's your cup of tea or not. i don't think the world "classic" can be attributed to some fillers on an album that come out a year ago |
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Post by tomlivesforever on Nov 5, 2018 7:41:15 GMT -5
If they are to Tezza then that's that. I happen to think both are very good songs and if someone considers them to be great then fine. Yeah but that doesn't mean something is an actual classic. A classic is something that is revered over a period of time and the general consensus being that it is worthy of that status and recognised as such, even if not your cup of tea or not. i don't think the world "classic" can be attributed to some fillers on an album that come out a year ago But if they are that to Tezza personally then where is the issue? Or we could keep going with it and say that the general concensus would say you were wrong to call them 'fillers' a year out from release. But really if you don't rate them that's fair enough. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2018 8:58:07 GMT -5
Music is subjective. That's why it's ridiculous to argue whether a song is a "classic" or not. Who makes that decision?
And who the fuck even cares?
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