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Post by oasisunited on Mar 6, 2019 18:57:08 GMT -5
Go find another forum and take your Noel-hating friends with you, please. Now this is gatekeeping! At least he said "please"
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Post by Manualex on Mar 6, 2019 22:31:24 GMT -5
This much discussion on a stupid tweet from a stupid man with a stupid view of the world, still limited by stupid concepts of ego vs. validation on a social media platform that's almost built to encourage stupid takes? Like a man with a fork, in a world of soup.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Mar 6, 2019 23:48:52 GMT -5
This much discussion on a stupid tweet from a stupid man with a stupid view of the world, still limited by stupid concepts of ego vs. validation on a social media platform that's almost built to encourage stupid takes? Like a man with a fork, in a world of soup.
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Post by MONO on Mar 7, 2019 2:40:42 GMT -5
If you can't find genius on Noel's first two albums, especially CY, then you don't know much about music. Nah nah nah nah nah Nah nah nah nah nah nah nah nah nah What an underrated cultural asset. Not. It's erectile dysfunction music Are you affected?
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Post by matt on Mar 7, 2019 3:49:53 GMT -5
If you can't find genius on Noel's first two albums, especially CY, then you don't know much about music. Nah nah nah nah nah Nah nah nah nah nah nah nah nah nah What an underrated cultural asset. Not. It's erectile dysfunction music Are you affected? Everyone’s affected when they listen to it.
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Post by freddy838 on Mar 7, 2019 3:58:36 GMT -5
Love Is The Law is hardly boner-worthy either
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Post by mossy on Mar 7, 2019 7:21:22 GMT -5
Love Is The Law is hardly boner-worthy either There are some strange people out there my friend. I know someone who is a furry. Don’t google that at work! I think we should not judge and let everyone get boners how they want, as long as it is in the privacy of their own home. X
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Post by andymorris on Mar 7, 2019 8:50:08 GMT -5
Love is The Law is a lollipop, who doesn't like lollipops ? Sad adults who forgot their own childhood, getting dirty but having the time fo their life, that's who.
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Post by vespa on Mar 7, 2019 10:04:56 GMT -5
Chasing yesterday is Noel’s best collection of songs in a very long time ,shit songs seriously? Riverman? While song remains? They damn fine tunes! Who built the moon was ok but sounds forced and song wise is his worst collection in awhile , the productions ok but if Noel wants different then he’s got to go full on , beautiful world , Fort Knox ,she taught me...all good tunes the rest sound like pieces together tracks that Holmes as tried to make sound different but they are average at best
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Post by Lennon2217 on Mar 7, 2019 10:06:01 GMT -5
When does Noel announce the new album? Surely Warner isn’t teaming up two of their clients, Pumpkins and Noel, not to push new material this summer. Let’s get this party poppin’.
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Post by The Escapist on Mar 7, 2019 10:09:47 GMT -5
Fort Knox twats the majority of Noel's first two albums. Absolutely twats them.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Mar 7, 2019 10:11:58 GMT -5
NGHFB is a great album of Oasis leftovers. CY is one of the most boring albums ever released and WBTM consists of 5 songs blown up to ten and then spread over 7 releases. The CY/WBTM remixes are the only tracks I regularly listen to from these two records. You're dumber than a bag of rocks. If you can't find genius on Noel's first two albums, especially CY, then you don't know much about music. I'm sure you love that doorbell jackhammer in Fort Knox though - bet you and the rest of the remix only-lovers think it's "fookin brilliant mate!". Ugh. Go find another forum and take your Noel-hating friends with you, please. Sure the bell goes on too long but other than that Fort Knox is a big tune.
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Post by Rolo on Mar 7, 2019 10:46:52 GMT -5
Fort Knox is amazing.
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Post by LightsOffInside on Mar 7, 2019 11:29:26 GMT -5
For me WBTM was on par with his other albums, as in - there's a couple great songs, a few good ones, and a few shite ones.
The production is really great at some points, but the album is let down by a couple of really shit songs, which is Noel's fault not David Holmes. Songs like She Taught Me To Fly or The Man Who Built The Moon are up there with his best songs, whereas Keep On Reaching, Love Is The Law, Be Careful What You Wish for? Absolutely terrible. Those appalling songs didn't deserve the David Holmes treatment.
It's a shame, because it could have been better, but due to the shit songs and flakey instrumentals (not including Fort Knox in that), its only as good as his previous 2.
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Post by dadrocker on Mar 7, 2019 11:45:15 GMT -5
Replace The Mexican with Freaky Teeth and the Girl With X-Ray Eyes with Revolution Song and it's a complete and amazing record. I still don't get the hate for Lock All The Doors. Great tune.
WBTM was never as good as it's trailer. I like the album more now than before, but it still doesn't live up to the hype of the that trailer.
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Post by freddy838 on Mar 7, 2019 12:58:08 GMT -5
Love is The Law is a lollipop, who doesn't like lollipops ? Sad adults who forgot their own childhood, getting dirty but having the time fo their life, that's who. If you like lollipops made out of dog poo and knives lol
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Mar 7, 2019 13:08:33 GMT -5
NGHFB is a great album of Oasis leftovers. CY is one of the most boring albums ever released and WBTM consists of 5 songs blown up to ten and then spread over 7 releases. The CY/WBTM remixes are the only tracks I regularly listen to from these two records. You're dumber than a bag of rocks. If you can't find genius on Noel's first two albums, especially CY, then you don't know much about music. I'm sure you love that doorbell jackhammer in Fort Knox though - bet you and the rest of the remix only-lovers think it's "fookin brilliant mate!". Ugh. Go find another forum and take your Noel-hating friends with you, please. Noel's very talented, but he's no genius.
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Post by bogaloo on Mar 7, 2019 13:54:16 GMT -5
You're dumber than a bag of rocks. If you can't find genius on Noel's first two albums, especially CY, then you don't know much about music. I'm sure you love that doorbell jackhammer in Fort Knox though - bet you and the rest of the remix only-lovers think it's "fookin brilliant mate!". Ugh. Go find another forum and take your Noel-hating friends with you, please. Noel's very talented, but he's no genius. I wouldn't classify him as a genius either, but then, who is one? Everyone is flawed. Every single one of us and every songwriter in the world. I much prefer the notion that everyone can have moments of genius. Some more than others. For some, there are clusters of absolute inspiration and and ability to translate that inspiration, for others it's more like a gradual dripping thing. Why is one better than other? For instance, for me, Yann Tiersen is nearly what probably fits the definition I suppose you guys are using of "a genius". But not everything he did is genius. In fact I think he sometimes forces himself too much into "avant garde" territory and consiously neglects his melodic ability, where (in my opinion) his true genius lies, and comes up with utterly meaningless stuff. But then again,music,as any form of art is subjective, so why should we be labelling people on placing them in tiers?
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Post by theone on Mar 7, 2019 14:35:26 GMT -5
Everyone has their own opinions. I think Chasing had some of the best written Noel songs since the 90's. WBTM not as good as Chasing but damn close.
The first album, well not that great outside of a few tracks
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Mar 7, 2019 14:37:28 GMT -5
Noel's very talented, but he's no genius. I wouldn't classify him as a genius either, but then, who is one? Everyone is flawed. Every single one of us and every songwriter in the world. I much prefer the notion that everyone can have moments of genius. Some more than others. And then again,music,as any form of art is subjective. Being a genius doesn't mean being perfect in ever way; they can still be flawed. As far as all round geniuses in the field of popular music composition go, I'd say Bob Dylan was our surest option. I think John Lennon had spark of something magical, but even he wasn't the full package. Mostly you just get people who seem to possess an aptitude for doing one thing extraordinarily well, whether that be writing lyrics, or playing the guitar, or whatever you like.
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Post by bogaloo on Mar 7, 2019 15:03:17 GMT -5
I wouldn't classify him as a genius either, but then, who is one? Everyone is flawed. Every single one of us and every songwriter in the world. I much prefer the notion that everyone can have moments of genius. Some more than others. And then again,music,as any form of art is subjective. Being a genius doesn't mean being perfect in ever way; they can still be flawed. As far as all round geniuses in the field of popular music composition go, I'd say Bob Dylan was our surest option. I think John Lennon had spark of something magical, but even he wasn't the full package. Mostly you just get people who seem to possess an aptitude for doing one thing extraordinarily well, whether that be writing lyrics, or playing the guitar, or whatever you like. Eh eh, funny you'd go for Dylan, I love the guy, I find him a brilliant lyricist, but not that brilliant as a melodist, for instance. Maybe I'm a bit spoilt too, because my second language being Portuguese, and because I'm fluent in it, there is such a huge weatlh of "all arounders" in Portuguese and Brazilian music that I absolutely adore, that it makes many others seem pale in comparison! I know a lot will be lost in translation, but I just feel compelled to leave this here. Zeca Afonso, the father of modern Portuguese songwriters, made to be a genius lyricist, if not for other reasons, to be able to escape the censorship of a fascist regime. This one is not a political song (many were, but amidst surrealist, beautiful poetry- they had to be smarter than the censors, you see)... The lyrics translate as something like: Sleep my boy, the star of dawn I already looked for it and I did not see it. If it does not come at dawn Another one I know will come for you. Another I know of in the dark night About your charming smile You will hear singing in the heights Lullabies and songs bring you to sleep Narrow my throat, my singer. When the light goes out in the windows The star of dawn looses its glow Loose the little star If another does not come to render Sleep when the night is in bloom, and Let her come to sleep too.
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Post by magicman on Mar 7, 2019 16:00:41 GMT -5
Everybody knows Kanye is a musical genius. Just ask him.
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Post by MONO on Mar 7, 2019 16:01:59 GMT -5
What about Michael Jackson?
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Post by magicman on Mar 7, 2019 16:04:12 GMT -5
What about Michael Jackson? No doubt, MJ was out of this world talented. I'd suggest Prince was a musical genius as well.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2019 16:43:14 GMT -5
What about Michael Jackson? No doubt, MJ was out of this world talented. I'd suggest Prince was a musical genius as well. You could argue that whatever "talent" MJ had that it was drastically augmented thru years of having it beat into him from a young age. Sure, the talent was there, but his own work got him to what people now consider him to be. His whole life story is quite tragic honestly. If that is what it takes to be considered a "genius", then count me among the ignorantly blissful.
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