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Post by shannee on Mar 2, 2019 18:51:19 GMT -5
Seems like the last album scared some people off and a classic song might bring them back. But maybe those are just shit talkers...
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Post by mossy on Mar 2, 2019 18:52:18 GMT -5
Noel’s certainly enjoying his freedom from Oasis. He’s always got a few projects on the go. Right from the beginning he was nipping between recording two albums.
Remember at one point it got mentioned he was doing an instrumental album that he couldn’t talk about? We thought it might’ve been a film soundtrack? What happened to that?
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Post by Lennon2217 on Mar 2, 2019 18:54:00 GMT -5
The timeline is just really odd. We had heard that he was going to be working with Holmes in January. We know he's supposed to be making a touring album. We also know that his management has teased new tracks. Is Noel really going to play a song live only for us not to hear the studio version for months? Because, the usual Noel timeline says that what he's recording now, we won't hear as a finished product until the fall. The Abbey Road bit is interesting. It has to be for the touring band album. Noel opted for boutique studios with David Holmes, a studio like Abbey Road would be unlikely for that project. It could also be somewhat likely that this album, whichever he's making, might have multiple producers. It could be that Sardy is only working on a couple of tracks. Here's my guess...we might have another Chasing Yesterday situation. It could be that he might want something to put out to promote the new tour, but isn't ready with either album. So Noel might have given the ok to Sardy to mix a track or two in Sardy's usual LA hunting grounds, while Noel works at Abbey Road to complete the rest of the album. They'd have the Sardy track/possible single out in the next few weeks and the album out in 4 months or so. Just like with Chasing Yesterday, he'd then have stoppages in the tour to continue working with Holmes and have that album out in the next year or two. I’ve always assumed a normal Birds album would come first over a Holmes follow up. The latter seems like it would take more time to complete given the previous ules Noel and Holmes employed for MOON. Granted I’m assuming they are still in play. Noel mentioned many times while touring for MOON he’s got a ton of songs ear marked for a normal Birds album. Since then we know he’s stated he wants a touring band album featuring his live band. Plus we know they’ve all been in and out of the studio together since mid November. Russell even turned down a Zutons reunion tour to focus on Noel’s projects. A good sign. Ideally Noel would be more like a modern day artist. Announce an album, drop a single and have it out in 2-4 months. That seems like how so many American bands do it these days. The long drawn out slow drip is a thing of a bygone era. I’m excited that new material is on the agenda for 2019. It’s weird Noel’s management would tease new material that could be played live in early May. Sooooooo not his style. Does Noel really want three dozen youtube videos of his songs online in the 5 months prior to an album? He’s bitched about that before. I really hope whatever he might play in May gets a single drop as well at the same time. Put it on Spotify, get ur vinyl preorders ready and away we go!!! |
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Post by mossy on Mar 2, 2019 19:00:11 GMT -5
The timeline is just really odd. We had heard that he was going to be working with Holmes in January. We know he's supposed to be making a touring album. We also know that his management has teased new tracks. Is Noel really going to play a song live only for us not to hear the studio version for months? Because, the usual Noel timeline says that what he's recording now, we won't hear as a finished product until the fall. The Abbey Road bit is interesting. It has to be for the touring band album. Noel opted for boutique studios with David Holmes, a studio like Abbey Road would be unlikely for that project. It could also be somewhat likely that this album, whichever he's making, might have multiple producers. It could be that Sardy is only working on a couple of tracks. Here's my guess...we might have another Chasing Yesterday situation. It could be that he might want something to put out to promote the new tour, but isn't ready with either album. So Noel might have given the ok to Sardy to mix a track or two in Sardy's usual LA hunting grounds, while Noel works at Abbey Road to complete the rest of the album. They'd have the Sardy track/possible single out in the next few weeks and the album out in 4 months or so. Just like with Chasing Yesterday, he'd then have stoppages in the tour to continue working with Holmes and have that album out in the next year or two. I’ve always assumed a normal Birds album would come first over a Holmes follow up. The latter seems like it would take more time to complete given the previous ules Noel and Holmes employed for MOON. Granted I’m assuming they are still in play. Noel mentioned many times while touring for MOON he’s got a ton of songs ear marked for a normal Birds album. Since then we know he’s stated he wants a touring band album featuring his live band. Plus we know they’ve all been in and out of the studio together since mid November. Russell even turned down a Zutons reunion tour to focus on Noel’s projects. A good sign. Ideally Noel would be more like a modern day artist. Announce an album, drop a single and have it out in 2-4 months. That seems like how so many American bands do it these days. The long drawn out slow drip is a thing of a bygone era. I’m excited that new material is on the agenda for 2019. It’s weird Noel’s management would tease new material that could be played live in early May. Sooooooo not his style. Does Noel really want three dozen youtube videos of his songs online in the 5 months prior to an album? He’s bitched about that before. I really hope whatever he might play in May gets a single drop as well at the same time. Put it on Spotify, get ur vinyl preorders ready and away we go!!! Maybe his team saw how successful Liam’s album was and realised fan uploads can actually help an album rather than hinder it. Also, in the past you didn’t get paid for YouTube bootlegs, but now the tech has improved so if you’re the rights owner you still get paid even if you didn’t upload the video yourself. Something is definitely afoot anyway. Good times. X |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Mar 2, 2019 21:46:48 GMT -5
I’ve always assumed a normal Birds album would come first over a Holmes follow up. The latter seems like it would take more time to complete given the previous ules Noel and Holmes employed for MOON. Granted I’m assuming they are still in play. Noel mentioned many times while touring for MOON he’s got a ton of songs ear marked for a normal Birds album. Since then we know he’s stated he wants a touring band album featuring his live band. Plus we know they’ve all been in and out of the studio together since mid November. Russell even turned down a Zutons reunion tour to focus on Noel’s projects. A good sign. Ideally Noel would be more like a modern day artist. Announce an album, drop a single and have it out in 2-4 months. That seems like how so many American bands do it these days. The long drawn out slow drip is a thing of a bygone era. I’m excited that new material is on the agenda for 2019. It’s weird Noel’s management would tease new material that could be played live in early May. Sooooooo not his style. Does Noel really want three dozen youtube videos of his songs online in the 5 months prior to an album? He’s bitched about that before. I really hope whatever he might play in May gets a single drop as well at the same time. Put it on Spotify, get ur vinyl preorders ready and away we go!!! Maybe his team saw how successful Liam’s album was and realised fan uploads can actually help an album rather than hinder it. Also, in the past you didn’t get paid for YouTube bootlegs, but now the tech has improved so if you’re the rights owner you still get paid even if you didn’t upload the video yourself. Something is definitely afoot anyway. Good times. X Could be, could be. I doubt Noel and his team from 1995 think like that. I lean some sort of song release in early to mid May. Shit, why do I get myself worked up about this type of crap??? I'm just gonna be let down. |
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Post by shannee on Mar 2, 2019 22:08:53 GMT -5
Liam just said on Twitter that the Sardy album will be put out by Warner..
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Post by freddy838 on Mar 3, 2019 5:03:56 GMT -5
Maybe he got together briefly with Holmes in January but he just wasn't feeling it so went back to working on the Birds project. If he's planning on doing a big tour with the Pumpkins I would think a classic Noel single will help boost sales for that in the US It's possible, I think Noel was genuinely surprised that Holy Mountain got pretty universally panned at the time judging from his interviews. His bravado meant that he said he'd happily work with Holmes again, perhaps this is his way of saying 'I tried again with Holmes but it didn't work out for x, y or z reason' and he has gone back to the classic sound. That's not to say he won't work with Holmes ever again but probably with less studio-only writing, more shaping some ideas he takes into the studio. I think that would be my ideal scenario. |
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Post by mossy on Mar 3, 2019 6:37:21 GMT -5
Maybe he got together briefly with Holmes in January but he just wasn't feeling it so went back to working on the Birds project. If he's planning on doing a big tour with the Pumpkins I would think a classic Noel single will help boost sales for that in the US It's possible, I think Noel was genuinely surprised that Holy Mountain got pretty universally panned at the time judging from his interviews. His bravado meant that he said he'd happily work with Holmes again, perhaps this is his way of saying 'I tried again with Holmes but it didn't work out for x, y or z reason' and he has gone back to the classic sound. That's not to say he won't work with Holmes ever again but probably with less studio-only writing, more shaping some ideas he takes into the studio. I think that would be my ideal scenario. When he worked with Holmes before it was only ever for a few weeks at a time. It’s entirely possible he has a really productive few weeks with Holmes in January, then moved back onto the normal album with Sardy in Feb. I think it’s jumping the gun a bit to think this is evidence of the Holmes album getting shelved. “I’ve got a whole backlog of songs, I write all the time so I’ve got plenty of material,” he said. “I’m going to make another record with David (Holmes) in this way but the last one took four years so I’ll probably have to make another one alongside it in the more traditional sense.” X |
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Post by mossy on Mar 3, 2019 6:42:54 GMT -5
Liam just said on Twitter that the Sardy album will be put out by Warner.. Here’s the tweet. Wow. If this is true the good news is Warner’s will definitely take a more modern approach to marketing Noel’s album. The bad news is I suspect they might line up Liam and Noel’s album releases again to be at similar times for the publicity. Really surprised by that as Noel avoided interviews this time round he was so sick of being asked about Liam. X |
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Post by bogaloo on Mar 3, 2019 7:04:27 GMT -5
Liam just said on Twitter that the Sardy album will be put out by Warner.. Here’s the tweet. Wow. If this is true the good news is Warner’s will definitely take a more modern approach to marketing Noel’s album. The bad news is I suspect they might line up Liam and Noel’s album releases again to be at similar times for the publicity. Really surprised by that as Noel avoided interviews this time round he was so sick of being asked about Liam. X If true, this can be a smart, despite "dickish" move,in my opinion, and be free to disagree, to "restrain" Liam. They may release both albums together it ramp up publicity, but they also have nothing to earn from one of their signings putting down the quality of the other. So it can indeed help tame the boring "rivarly"thing. |
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Post by mossy on Mar 3, 2019 7:06:46 GMT -5
Here’s the tweet. Wow. If this is true the good news is Warner’s will definitely take a more modern approach to marketing Noel’s album. The bad news is I suspect they might line up Liam and Noel’s album releases again to be at similar times for the publicity. Really surprised by that as Noel avoided interviews this time round he was so sick of being asked about Liam. X If true, this can be a smart, despite "dickish" move,in my opinion, and be free to disagree, to "restrain" Liam. They may release both albums together it ramp up publicity, but they also have nothing to earn from one of their signings putting down the quality of the other. So it can indeed help tame the boring "rivarly"thing. I doubt Noel being on the same record label will tame Liam! X |
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Post by MONO on Mar 3, 2019 7:09:16 GMT -5
I'd take this with a huge grain of salt as well
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Post by bogaloo on Mar 3, 2019 7:25:16 GMT -5
If true, this can be a smart, despite "dickish" move,in my opinion, and be free to disagree, to "restrain" Liam. They may release both albums together it ramp up publicity, but they also have nothing to earn from one of their signings putting down the quality of the other. So it can indeed help tame the boring "rivarly"thing. I doubt Noel being on the same record label will tame Liam! X True. But I'd guess the label might not be fully on board with it as they may be now,for publicity sake. Anyway. I'd take it with a grain of salt. Weren't they arleady distributing the albums or something? |
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Post by MONO on Mar 3, 2019 7:55:09 GMT -5
Afaik, Universal distributes NGHFB basically in the whole world minus UK and Western Europe. UK/IE distribution is handled by Warner and Western Europe by various local indie distributors.
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Post by GlastoEls on Mar 3, 2019 8:17:00 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2019 8:44:10 GMT -5
Strange move from Noel (if true), they must have offered a lot of money...
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Post by matt on Mar 3, 2019 9:07:19 GMT -5
Hey, might be a good move. Might be good to have industry professionals tell him to stop making middle aged mid tempo dad rock and go back to cosmic pop.
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Post by popeyebonaparte on Mar 3, 2019 9:10:47 GMT -5
I suspect that Liam's success may have given him a kick up the arse and he wants a slice too. Maybe he's decided to write an all out hit record himself. Who knows? I suspect the future holds interesting things...
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Post by bogaloo on Mar 3, 2019 9:17:47 GMT -5
Strange move from Noel (if true), they must have offered a lot of money... Strange, maybe. Hypocritical (depending on the actual details of the deal). But, in a way logical- If you can't beat them marketing wise, join them. It kind of makes sense in the long game. Even more so, when everyone here tended to agree Noel's marketing team was using outdated tactics. If the timeline is as we believe it is, Warner Will have no input on the "artistical" direction of the album. And if it helps, in any way, to stop the media and twitter insults between the two, than thank f**ck for Warner. I do, genuinely believe no record label Will want to kill any chicken that lay a golden egg. They'll have to keep things as harmless as possible for both of them. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2019 10:26:32 GMT -5
I called it strange move, because in his interview with Q Magazine not so long ago he was still happy being independent artist:
"To be a solo artist and an independent artist is a great place to be because you don't answer to a record label, you don't answer to an A&R department. It can be hairy at times, trying to make it all work, but it's better than I thought it would be. I thought it would be hard work and it's been a breeze. If you can write and you can play, you've got it all"."
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Post by bogaloo on Mar 3, 2019 10:39:43 GMT -5
I called it strange move, because in his interview with Q Magazine not so long ago he was still happy being independent artist: "To be a solo artist and an independent artist is a great place to be because you don't answer to a record label, you don't answer to an A&R department. It can be hairy at times, trying to make it all work, but it's better than I thought it would be. I thought it would be hard work and it's been a breeze. If you can write and you can play, you've got it all"." Yes, it is strange, but strange is not entirely out of charachter for Noel. We are, however, and if true, speculating about something we don't know the full details of. And, as you know, there are many ways to skin a cat, and probably equaly as many to write contracts to record deals. It's all speculative right now. Whatever that deal is, it may go from a full scope signing to a restricted and limited one. We need detail to judge, as always. |
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Post by mossy on Mar 3, 2019 11:05:55 GMT -5
I suspect that Liam's success may have given him a kick up the arse and he wants a slice too. Maybe he's decided to write an all out hit record himself. Who knows? I suspect the future holds interesting things... If he’s to be taken at his word that he’s been stockpiling songs for the last 5+ years, if he brings all his best tunes to the table he could have an absolute monster of a record with a professional record label marketing it properly. All good news for us fans. X |
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Post by dadrocker on Mar 3, 2019 11:09:29 GMT -5
Might just be for distribution right? Not an actual recording contract.
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Post by mossy on Mar 3, 2019 11:12:26 GMT -5
Might just be for distribution right? Not an actual recording contract. Yeah we don’t know anything for sure yet and doubt even Liam knows the details (or is being disingenuous for the sake of being able to criticise Noel on Twitter). X |
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Post by freddy838 on Mar 3, 2019 11:14:02 GMT -5
Hey, might be a good move. Might be good to have industry professionals tell him to stop making middle aged mid tempo dad rock and go back to cosmic pop. Isn't a major label more likely to want the safer option? I dont really care who the label is, I just think his team is out of date and the management or whoever it is are just too slow to get everything done. Noel could easily drop an album tomorrow and preserve his record of number 1 albums thanks to his name alone, if that's what he's been worried about before. |
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