Lundblad
Oasis Roadie
Nothing ever lasts forever
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Post by Lundblad on Sept 13, 2019 5:05:17 GMT -5
I was gonna make a playlist with that imaginary album, but found out that someone had already done a similar one (including What is Love, but with no Ringo song):
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Lundblad
Oasis Roadie
Nothing ever lasts forever
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Post by Lundblad on Sept 13, 2019 5:13:43 GMT -5
Btw, we sometimes wonder what Oasis songs sound the closest to The Beatles but let's put it the other way round: which Beatles song(s) would be the closest to Oasis ? I'd say Rain. I kinda think Revoluton sounds like an Oasis song. At the very least, I'd like to hear Lîam cover it, he might struggle with some of the chorus but I think he would do it justice. God bless. I might be affected by the fact that they covered it, but I think that Helter Skelter is a good example too, could be an early Oasis song. Glass Onion and Get Back maybe. And Cry Baby Cry (covered by Beady Eye), sounds a bit like a Beady Eye song. |
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Post by AppleScruff on Sept 20, 2019 15:18:44 GMT -5
Also theyknowwhatimean, interesting article in The Guardian about the plans for what would have been a follow up to Abbey Road. www.theguardian.com/music/2019/sep/11/the-beatles-break-up-mark-lewisohn-abbey-road-hornsey-roadAlways assumed the band were conscious of the fact that it was most certainly their last album, so it’s a surprise to see them advocating plans for the next album - even more surprising as the most assertive is John. His idea was four tracks each by John, Paul and George with one or two from Ringo (and this giving George equal billing at last). An interesting concept, one which I’ve been thinking about how it might have looked when taking into account their immediate solo projects. For me, you have songs that were writtten/demoed during the bands lifetime or written immediately around and after their split (forgetting all the aggro based tunes concerning the breakup so no Wah Wah or Run of the Mill for example). My selection would be: JohnMother Jealous Guy Working Class Hero Instant Karma PaulMaybe I’m Amazed Junk Another Day The Backseat of My Car GeorgeMy Sweet Lord Isn’t It A Pity All Things Must Pass Awaiting On You All RingoIt Don’t Come Easy That’s actually an amazing album. I’d have to think about how to sequence that, but imagine some three way harmonies in tunes like Instant Karma or Awaiting On You All. Would have been a bonafide classic. I read that story earlier this week and I was surprised that this has never been revealed before. It certainly does change the conventional narrative. Incredible also, how frank (arguably brutal) Paul’s comments were regarding the quality of George’s submissions. This “Hornsey Road” show is coming to Edinburgh in November, think I’m gonna get myself along. |
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Post by matt on Sept 20, 2019 16:50:36 GMT -5
Also theyknowwhatimean, interesting article in The Guardian about the plans for what would have been a follow up to Abbey Road. www.theguardian.com/music/2019/sep/11/the-beatles-break-up-mark-lewisohn-abbey-road-hornsey-roadAlways assumed the band were conscious of the fact that it was most certainly their last album, so it’s a surprise to see them advocating plans for the next album - even more surprising as the most assertive is John. His idea was four tracks each by John, Paul and George with one or two from Ringo (and this giving George equal billing at last). An interesting concept, one which I’ve been thinking about how it might have looked when taking into account their immediate solo projects. For me, you have songs that were writtten/demoed during the bands lifetime or written immediately around and after their split (forgetting all the aggro based tunes concerning the breakup so no Wah Wah or Run of the Mill for example). My selection would be: JohnMother Jealous Guy Working Class Hero Instant Karma PaulMaybe I’m Amazed Junk Another Day The Backseat of My Car GeorgeMy Sweet Lord Isn’t It A Pity All Things Must Pass Awaiting On You All RingoIt Don’t Come Easy That’s actually an amazing album. I’d have to think about how to sequence that, but imagine some three way harmonies in tunes like Instant Karma or Awaiting On You All. Would have been a bonafide classic. I read that story earlier this week and I was surprised that this has never been revealed before. It certainly does change the conventional narrative. Incredible also, how frank (arguably brutal) Paul’s comments were regarding the quality of George’s submissions. This “Hornsey Road” show is coming to Edinburgh in November, think I’m gonna get myself along. I wonder if there’s another agenda to that debate about George’s songwriting. The proposed next album would have seen the Lennon/McCartney songwriting credits broken up into individual ones with George getting equal billing with John and Paul. Possibly an Allen Klein move - it would strengthen his hold on The Beatles if his three allies in the band (with the odd track from Ringo) got most of the songwriting credits in order to curry favour with him. Maybe it was Paul arguing for the status quo ensuring that Kleins influence on the band was minimal. McCartney was definitely the most business savvy of all The Beatles, he had Klein’s number from the very start. |
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Post by yeayeayeah on Sept 21, 2019 4:02:02 GMT -5
Would just like to share these spellbinding fan made documentaries here. It’s an incredible labour of love from a true fanatic and far better than most official Beatles documentaries. So compelling. P.S. Not sure where Vol 1 is but very easy to dip into any of them. Cheers, very interesting stuff. Pains you to think of what might have been. |
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Post by andymorris on Sept 27, 2019 6:07:57 GMT -5
Listened to the Remix few mins ago, not much different than 2009 remix, back vox and bass pushed to the front. The extra stuff were also widely available on bootleg before. Nice overall but yeah, not the most interesting reissue. matt wasnt Wah wah written in 69 when George left temporarily ? i think you can include this one in your tracklist, it's not a beatles break up song to me, more a George fed up song. |
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Post by matt on Sept 27, 2019 6:35:49 GMT -5
Listened to the Remix few mins ago, not much different than 2009 remix, back vox and bass pushed to the front. The extra stuff were also widely available on bootleg before. Nice overall but yeah, not the most interesting reissue. matt wasnt Wah wah written in 69 when George left temporarily ? i think you can include this one in your tracklist, it's not a beatles break up song to me, more a George fed up song. I don’t think the panning is nearly as bad on the original stereo as, say, Rubber Soul but there’s a significant changes to a lot of this from what I’ve heard. For example, the backing harmony vocals on Oh Darling are a lot more prominent and gives so much extra power to the song for me. As for Wah-Wah, it could go on the track list for sure - it might be a gripe at the others but then again, Only A Northern Song could be seen as such! |
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Post by andymorris on Sept 27, 2019 6:51:31 GMT -5
Listened to the Remix few mins ago, not much different than 2009 remix, back vox and bass pushed to the front. The extra stuff were also widely available on bootleg before. Nice overall but yeah, not the most interesting reissue. matt wasnt Wah wah written in 69 when George left temporarily ? i think you can include this one in your tracklist, it's not a beatles break up song to me, more a George fed up song. I don’t think the panning is nearly as bad on the original stereo as, say, Rubber Soul but there’s a significant changes to a lot of this from what I’ve heard. For example, the backing harmony vocals on Oh Darling are a lot more prominent and gives so much extra power to the song for me. As for Wah-Wah, it could go on the track list for sure - it might be a gripe at the others but then again, Only A Northern Song could be seen as such! Got the thread title wrong haha, i was talking about the Abbey Road remix obviously, but you saw that. Abbey Road was pretty much perfect in its original form, the Beatles couldn't really top that anyway. The white album remix was the best of the bunch so far. Incredible what they did with Esher demos especially. |
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Post by Parka Flames on Sept 27, 2019 12:46:15 GMT -5
Remix sounds great imo.
Is Revolver ever going to get this treatment?
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Post by madferitusa2025 on Sept 27, 2019 21:35:48 GMT -5
Is this also Abbey Road thread? Disc two is very satisfying. Get on it.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Sept 27, 2019 21:48:55 GMT -5
Is this also Abbey Road thread? Disc two is very satisfying. Get on it. I'm not sure the proper album needed any sort of new "mixing" or reissue. The 2009 mono release sounds great. The bonus material is good, not great. The White album gave us much much more. Its the better buy of the two. I'm really looking forward to a potential Let It Be release. They worked on so many songs during those sessions. 100s really. |
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Post by madferitusa2025 on Sept 27, 2019 21:56:47 GMT -5
Is this also Abbey Road thread? Disc two is very satisfying. Get on it. The 2009 mono release sounds great. The bonus material is good, not great. The White album gave us much much more. Its the better buy of the two. I'm really looking forward to a potential Let It Be release. They worked on so many songs during those sessions. 100s really. Agreed. IMO disc two is solid all the way through. White was great, as was Pepper. Really don't look to compare them. A lot of potential for a Let It Be release. I look forward to that as well. |
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Post by andymorris on Sept 28, 2019 2:47:48 GMT -5
Remix sounds great imo. Is Revolver ever going to get this treatment? They do sound great, but the Abbey Road is clearly the less necessary of the three so far. As for Revolver, it will happen at some point, they will do all of them clearly, but started with the big sellers first. My guess for the running order : Let It Be, Revolver, Rubber Soul, Help, Magical Mystery tour / Yellow Submarine bundle, then the early ones packaged together (although those, i dont know what they could do since they were recorded in a day or so...) |
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Post by Parka Flames on Sept 28, 2019 4:23:32 GMT -5
Remix sounds great imo. Is Revolver ever going to get this treatment? They do sound great, but the Abbey Road is clearly the less necessary of the three so far. As for Revolver, it will happen at some point, they will do all of them clearly, but started with the big sellers first. My guess for the running order : Let It Be, Revolver, Rubber Soul, Help, Magical Mystery tour / Yellow Submarine bundle, then the early ones packaged together (although those, i dont know what they could do since they were recorded in a day or so...) Yeah, really the only big thing I noticed was panning smoothed out in a few places, Polythene Pam being a good example. Sound clarity is fantastic, but then I haven't listened to Abbey Road on reference headphones before now, so... Let It Be is unnecessary tbh as we basically already had a remix with ...Naked. If I had my way the release order would go Revolver, Rubber Soul, Yellow Sub and Magical Mystery Tour. Also the singles from '65 onwards. Earlier than that? Unless they plan to do proper stereo mixing that isnt literally painful to listen to through headphones, which would be a radical change that doesnt seem to fit with this project's philosophy, I'll stick with the original mono. |
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Sept 28, 2019 5:43:23 GMT -5
Is this also Abbey Road thread? Disc two is very satisfying. Get on it. I'm not sure the proper album needed any sort of new "mixing" or reissue. The 2009 mono release sounds great. The bonus material is good, not great. The White album gave us much much more. Its the better buy of the two. I'm really looking forward to a potential Let It Be release. They worked on so many songs during those sessions. 100s really. Wasn't the mono just the stereo mix folded down? Anyway, most people don't get to hear the mono mixes. They're not readily available on streaming sites, as downloads, or physical. The stereo definitely needed mixing again. Having said that, I'm not sure how fond I am of the new mixes yet. I know the old ones so well that any changes are going to take some getting used to--and Giles and his team have not been shy of making changes. |
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Post by matt on Sept 28, 2019 6:06:11 GMT -5
The extras aren’t close to The White Album, but that’s not a surprise. This album was a tightly controlled experiment in the studio, there really wasn’t as much on the cutting room floor and certainly no Esher like demo processes.
The extras are a mere bonus as always, even with The White Album, but the remix of the album is essential. The medley flows much better and less of the hard panning you’d hear in the original stereo likePolythene Pam.
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Post by matt on Sept 28, 2019 6:10:36 GMT -5
They do sound great, but the Abbey Road is clearly the less necessary of the three so far. As for Revolver, it will happen at some point, they will do all of them clearly, but started with the big sellers first. My guess for the running order : Let It Be, Revolver, Rubber Soul, Help, Magical Mystery tour / Yellow Submarine bundle, then the early ones packaged together (although those, i dont know what they could do since they were recorded in a day or so...) Yeah, really the only big thing I noticed was panning smoothed out in a few places, Polythene Pam being a good example. Sound clarity is fantastic, but then I haven't listened to Abbey Road on reference headphones before now, so... Let It Be is unnecessary tbh as we basically already had a remix with ...Naked. If I had my way the release order would go Revolver, Rubber Soul, Yellow Sub and Magical Mystery Tour. Also the singles from '65 onwards. Earlier than that? Unless they plan to do proper stereo mixing that isnt literally painful to listen to through headphones, which would be a radical change that doesnt seem to fit with this project's philosophy, I'll stick with the original mono. Think the first two albums will be difficult to remix being only on two tape? The monos sound great for them so not essential but then again, if they can do something to replace the stereo versions, then all the better for it. |
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Post by yeayeayeah on Sept 28, 2019 14:50:45 GMT -5
Im not keen on the new "I Want You ( She's So Heavy)'. John's voice doesn't blend with his guitar as much and the bass seems quiter on the little runs Paul does.
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Post by rorymcbride on Sept 29, 2019 3:38:02 GMT -5
I saw Mark Lewisohn’s “Hornsey Road” Abbey Road lecture last night. It was amazing and the lengths of research he went to to find out who “Mean Mr Mustard” was made the entire theatre gasp.
I was also sat next to Gem who, true to form, kept his coat on throughout.
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Sept 29, 2019 6:31:53 GMT -5
Im not keen on the new "I Want You ( She's So Heavy)'. John's voice doesn't blend with his guitar as much and the bass seems quiter on the little runs Paul does. I don't think they're very good at mixing the heavier songs. I was bitterly disappointed with how weak the drums sounded on the new 'Yer Blues', and the decision to turn down the rhythm guitar and bass on 'Helter Skelter' still baffles me. The prettier, usually mid-tempo songs they do very well, though. 'Something' and 'Here Comes the Sun' sound incredible now. The only thing I like about the new 'I Want You' more than the old one is the final three minutes or so after the last "She's so...!" I think it builds in intensity more than the old one did, which seemed to remain level throughout. |
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Sept 29, 2019 6:32:42 GMT -5
I saw Mark Lewisohn’s “Hornsey Road” Abbey Road lecture last night. It was amazing and the lengths of research he went to to find out who “Mean Mr Mustard” was made the entire theatre gasp. I was also sat next to Gem who, true to form, kept his coat on throughout. Great. I'll try and get tickets for Manchester then. |
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Post by matt on Sept 29, 2019 13:47:50 GMT -5
Im not keen on the new "I Want You ( She's So Heavy)'. John's voice doesn't blend with his guitar as much and the bass seems quiter on the little runs Paul does. I don't think they're very good at mixing the heavier songs. I was bitterly disappointed with how weak the drums sounded on the new 'Yer Blues', and the decision to turn down the rhythm guitar and bass on 'Helter Skelter' still baffles me. The prettier, usually mid-tempo songs they do very well, though. 'Something' and 'Here Comes the Sun' sound incredible now. The only thing I like about the new 'I Want You' more than the old one is the final three minutes or so after the last "She's so...!" I think it builds in intensity more than the old one did, which seemed to remain level throughout. Definitely agree with this, the conclusion of ‘I Want You...’ is definitely heavier. Still love that transition from this dark heavy sound into the bright and optimistic Here Comes The Sun. The musical equivalent of being bolted wide awake after a nightmare to find that the sun is shining! |
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Post by yeayeayeah on Sept 29, 2019 14:31:36 GMT -5
Im not keen on the new "I Want You ( She's So Heavy)'. John's voice doesn't blend with his guitar as much and the bass seems quiter on the little runs Paul does. I don't think they're very good at mixing the heavier songs. I was bitterly disappointed with how weak the drums sounded on the new 'Yer Blues', and the decision to turn down the rhythm guitar and bass on 'Helter Skelter' still baffles me. The prettier, usually mid-tempo songs they do very well, though. 'Something' and 'Here Comes the Sun' sound incredible now. The only thing I like about the new 'I Want You' more than the old one is the final three minutes or so after the last "She's so...!" I think it builds in intensity more than the old one did, which seemed to remain level throughout. It sounded a lot better once I listened to it on record. Agree about the ending, it does build more. I couldn't believe how weak the guitar sounds on the Helter Skelter remix. |
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Sept 29, 2019 15:00:06 GMT -5
I don't think they're very good at mixing the heavier songs. I was bitterly disappointed with how weak the drums sounded on the new 'Yer Blues', and the decision to turn down the rhythm guitar and bass on 'Helter Skelter' still baffles me. The prettier, usually mid-tempo songs they do very well, though. 'Something' and 'Here Comes the Sun' sound incredible now. The only thing I like about the new 'I Want You' more than the old one is the final three minutes or so after the last "She's so...!" I think it builds in intensity more than the old one did, which seemed to remain level throughout. It sounded a lot better once I listened to it on record. Agree about the ending, it does build more. I couldn't believe how weak the guitar sounds on the Helter Skelter remix. Yeah, I think the whole album sounds better on record. I was blown away by 'Oh! Darling' all over again last night. What a rollicking performance. And I wasn't straining to hear the anvil on 'Maxwell's Silver Hammer' like when I listen through my headphones--it sounded just right. |
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Post by MacaRonic on Oct 2, 2019 2:41:26 GMT -5
I’m enjoying the new Abbey Road remix but not as much as the Pepper and White Album remix’s. I think Abbey Road was the best of the Beatles’ original mixes anyway. The outtakes are brilliant, especially I Want You.
I’m looking forward to see what they do with a Let It Be box. My wish would be to get at least 2 brand new, fully fledged, mixed to album standard songs from those sessions. I don’t care if they have frankenstein, chop up and fly in multiple takes of a song. Just get it done.
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