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Post by The Escapist on Nov 30, 2018 20:56:50 GMT -5
Can anyone comment on the likelihood of more of these remix/deluxe albums? Is it nailed on for the future anniversaries?
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Post by fabulousbakers on Nov 30, 2018 21:03:36 GMT -5
Can anyone comment on the likelihood of more of these remix/deluxe albums? Is it nailed on for the future anniversaries? Nothing's confirmed but sales have apparently been pretty healthy (I think both the PEPPER and the WHITE ALBUM re-releases charted in the top ten) so I'd definitely expect an ABBEY ROAD set in 2019. A LET IT BE set isn't quite as certain which is a shame given the amount of audio and film available to them. I'd still list that as "probable" for 2020. After that who knows? I'd expect maybe combined sets for some of the earlier years (for example a 1963 box set that covers both PLEASE PLEASE ME and WITH THE BEATLES). Whether they stick to the 50th Anniversary timings I don't know - that would leave them a gap in 2021 and 2022 (although 2022 marks the 50th Anniversary of their first BBC radio session so a box set of those might plug that gap).
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 30, 2018 21:43:08 GMT -5
Can anyone comment on the likelihood of more of these remix/deluxe albums? Is it nailed on for the future anniversaries? Nothing's confirmed but sales have apparently been pretty healthy (I think both the PEPPER and the WHITE ALBUM re-releases charted in the top ten) so I'd definitely expect an ABBEY ROAD set in 2019. A LET IT BE set isn't quite as certain which is a shame given the amount of audio and film available to them. I'd still list that as "probable" for 2020. After that who knows? I'd expect maybe combined sets for some of the earlier years (for example a 1963 box set that covers both PLEASE PLEASE ME and WITH THE BEATLES). Whether they stick to the 50th Anniversary timings I don't know - that would leave them a gap in 2021 and 2022 (although 2022 marks the 50th Anniversary of their first BBC radio session so a box set of those might plug that gap). I think they combine Abbey Road and Let It Be together. Too much shared DNA. Over half of Abbey Road was demoed during Let It Be. Too close in anniversaries. They will want to get Christmas sales in at the end of 2019 for sure. For me Let It Be could be the real treasure trove.
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Post by mkoasis on Dec 1, 2018 1:04:47 GMT -5
I suppose there is a plan to eventually re-release the Anthologies 1-3 at some point? The rest of the albums, including the Past Masters compilations have been given the glossy digipak treatment so I'm sure they'll put these out when there's a lull.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2018 2:44:10 GMT -5
My prediction is they will eventually remix and re-release everything. There's too much money to be made for them not to.
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Post by MONO on Dec 1, 2018 3:25:04 GMT -5
]I think they combine Abbey Road and Let It Be together. Too much shared DNA. Over half of Abbey Road was demoed during Let It Be. Too close in anniversaries. I don't think so. Why release only one set if people will buy two of them and you can charge them twice? My prediction is they will eventually remix and re-release everything. There's too much money to be made for them not to. Exactly. They'll probably release SDE's of some pre-Pepper albums, too as the current SDE's sell so well.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Dec 1, 2018 9:41:34 GMT -5
]I think they combine Abbey Road and Let It Be together. Too much shared DNA. Over half of Abbey Road was demoed during Let It Be. Too close in anniversaries. I don't think so. Why release only one set if people will buy two of them and you can charge them twice? My prediction is they will eventually remix and re-release everything. There's too much money to be made for them not to. Exactly. They'll probably release SDE's of some pre-Pepper albums, too as the current SDE's sell so well. The logic I’m working with is on the principle that they are trying to tie Abbey Road and Let It Be to their 50th anniversaries. So that is September 2019 and April 2020. Not a lot of turn around time. They missed the boat on 50th anniversary for the previous albums. The second idea is that the two sessions overlap with a huge amount of material. So if they do do a Let It Be reissue, so much cool material would now be cannibalize off for Abbey Road just months prior. The third part of this is Giles saying there isn’t a huge amount of issues with the original stereo mix of Abbey Road and perhaps a lack of supportive outtakes to include. This just a theory. The all mighty dollar usually wins in the end.
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Dec 1, 2018 13:06:38 GMT -5
Yeah, but he wrote it when he was 16, didn’t he? In 1958. One of his earliest compositions. They used to do in their sets at Hamburg, whenever the power went out. So I guess Paul wanted his voice higher to mimic how he sounded then. Also, the track was sounding quite lumpen and dirge-like at the speed they originally recorded it (have a listen of ‘Take 2’ on the “Deluxe Edition” of Pepper on your streaming service of choice). Yes but I think it was deliberately recorded too slow because they already knew they were going to speed it up when it was finished to make it sound like a younger man singing. They didn't finish it then decide it was too slow and needed speeding up. McCartney says, "I wanted to appear younger, but that was just to make it more rooty-tooty; just lift the key because it was starting to sound turgid."
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Post by tomlivesforever on Dec 1, 2018 14:18:25 GMT -5
Kanye has been a brilliant producer/songsmith at points in his career, especially early on but as he's grown older he's come to rely on that and use as a crutch because frankly while his rapping and words were passable at the start they aint no more.
Still loving these White Album mixes and all the extra's, I seem to find something more everytime I go back to them. Its an incredibly difficult job expertly done. Birthday is today's favourite, never thought I'd be writing that.
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Post by MONO on Dec 2, 2018 13:31:28 GMT -5
The logic I’m working with is on the principle that they are trying to tie Abbey Road and Let It Be to their 50th anniversaries. So that is September 2019 and April 2020. Not a lot of turn around time. They missed the boat on 50th anniversary for the previous albums. The second idea is that the two sessions overlap with a huge amount of material. So if they do do a Let It Be reissue, so much cool material would now be cannibalize off for Abbey Road just months prior. The third part of this is Giles saying there isn’t a huge amount of issues with the original stereo mix of Abbey Road and perhaps a lack of supportive outtakes to include. This just a theory. The all mighty dollar usually wins in the end. "The Let It Be" box could focus on existing audiovisual material whereas the Abbey Road box could be more audio-orientated. Just a theory as well!
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Post by fabulousbakers on Dec 3, 2018 3:23:22 GMT -5
"The Let It Be" box could focus on existing audiovisual material whereas the Abbey Road box could be more audio-orientated. Just a theory as well! As has been pointed out, alot of songs from the Abbey Road album were rehearsed during the Let It Be sessions. Film of those sessions could be added to an Abbey Road box set - even if they just want to create some new "promo videos" by synching up the rehearsal footage to the audio from the finished Abbey Road tracks.
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Post by MONO on Dec 3, 2018 3:30:48 GMT -5
As has been pointed out, alot of songs from the Abbey Road album were rehearsed during the Let It Be sessions. I know. It's not a secret. Film of those sessions could be added to an Abbey Road box set - even if they just want to create some new "promo videos" by synching up the rehearsal footage to the audio from the finished Abbey Road tracks. I'm not talking about new promo videos. I'm talking about the "Let it be" movie and several hours of unreleased audiovisual material.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Dec 3, 2018 10:26:00 GMT -5
I don’t think I ever want to watch the Let It Be film ever again. So boring and uncomfortable. There is a reason it’s been out of print for almost 50 years.
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Post by fabulousbakers on Dec 4, 2018 2:41:07 GMT -5
...I'm not talking about new promo videos. I'm talking about the "Let it be" movie and several hours of unreleased audiovisual material. Yes I'm well aware of that you were not talking about new promo videos. I was talking about new promo videos for the Abbey Road album using some Let It Be era footage. As has been pointed out, alot of songs from the Abbey Road album were rehearsed during the Let It Be sessions. I know. It's not a secret. I know it's not a secret. I even mentioned that it has already been "pointed out".
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Post by MONO on Dec 4, 2018 3:08:44 GMT -5
I don’t think I ever want to watch the Let It Be film ever again. So boring and uncomfortable. There is a reason it’s been out of print for almost 50 years. It is indeed mostly boring and uncomfortable (the 'rooftop cocnert' is not). However, it's a piece of history that just deserves a proper release. I'd definitely watch it again if it's released in proper quality.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2019 14:36:06 GMT -5
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Post by madferitusa2025 on Jan 11, 2019 22:23:23 GMT -5
I don’t think I ever want to watch the Let It Be film ever again. So boring and uncomfortable. There is a reason it’s been out of print for almost 50 years. In case there is someone who hasn't (unlikely I know) seen it yet. Been on YT for a couple weeks now. I have two completely shit copies of it. This one's pretty good. Of course I nicked it for my HD. It won't be long yeah yeah, till Apple takes this down. Love it or hate it. A fascinating document.
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Post by matt on Jan 12, 2019 7:51:27 GMT -5
I don’t think I ever want to watch the Let It Be film ever again. So boring and uncomfortable. There is a reason it’s been out of print for almost 50 years. In case there is someone who hasn't (unlikely I know) seen it yet. Been on YT for a couple weeks now. I have two completely shit copies of it. This one's pretty good. Of course I nicked it for my HD. It won't be long yeah yeah, till Apple takes this down. Love it or hate it. A fascinating document. Ha, I watched this video last week! It’s interesting from the perspective of a Beatles fanatic and seeing the disintegration - a world away from the care free spirited lads from 8 years previously. For the casual observer though, it is a bit dull I think.
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Post by matt on Jan 12, 2019 7:58:36 GMT -5
"The Let It Be" box could focus on existing audiovisual material whereas the Abbey Road box could be more audio-orientated. Just a theory as well! As has been pointed out, alot of songs from the Abbey Road album were rehearsed during the Let It Be sessions. Film of those sessions could be added to an Abbey Road box set - even if they just want to create some new "promo videos" by synching up the rehearsal footage to the audio from the finished Abbey Road tracks. This would be ideal, to lump any preliminary sessions of Abbey Road with an Abbey Road boxset as opposed to a behemoth Let It Be rerelease. The only reason I say that is that while the LIB phase is fascinating in terms of band dynamics, it’s not great musically. Some great individual songs but its shit vibes also produced quite hit and miss songs, mainly because they never finished it, and Spector production is saccharine and awful.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jan 12, 2019 9:38:57 GMT -5
I was skeptical at first but overall this was a fun release with tons of goodies for Beatle die hards. Can't wait for a Let It Be/Abbey Road hybrid.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2019 17:36:43 GMT -5
Regardless if it would make sense of not, there is more $$$$$ to be made if they release Abbey Road and Let It Be separately. So of course, that's what they'll do.
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Post by madferitusa2025 on Jan 13, 2019 13:42:17 GMT -5
Ha, I watched this video last week! It’s interesting from the perspective of a Beatles fanatic and seeing the disintegration - a world away from the care free spirited lads from 8 years previously. For the casual observer though, it is a bit dull I think.
Fair play. Have gotten that reaction from a few, until it gets to the studio parts. Then it's like "whoa, look at them rip Shake Rattle and Roll". Would like to see a clean release of this. Obviously they have reservations bc of the disintegration bit. Part of the history though. When you tuck it into a $400 super deluxe edition, casuals are out of the equation anyway. A further note. When I posted this some 36 hrs ago, view count was at roughly 17,000. It now stands at 276,218 views. Comments overwhelmingly positive. Seems to be a fair amount of interest. Maybe Apple is letting it stay up for a bit to test the waters. Edit: It's now been pulled down at 371,000 views.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2019 9:33:58 GMT -5
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Post by MONO on Jan 30, 2019 6:14:30 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2019 6:02:43 GMT -5
Not White Album but I was listening to Abbey Road last night and I forgot how mediocre Maxwell's Silver Hammer is. One of their worst tracks, ever. Can't stand Because anymore too. It's a shit song, innit ?
On the other hand, Octopus's Garden is really underrated. Finest Ringo work.
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