Does it work on 2018 Bob Dylan? Can we make him sound like 1965 Bob Dylan again?

Absolutely it does, because "comparable" does not mean "equal to". I can compare Patrick Troughton, the second Doctor, to The Beatles, because he has the same haircut - it doesn't mean he could write Dear Prudence. Kanye is comparable to The Beatles because of his influence, creativity, and consistency in music. And no-one is saying that he was the first to use vocal effects, so unless Cher brought a melodic and vulnerable sound to hip-hop (which I'm gonna go out on a limb and say she didn't) then the point is totally moot.

And the people who would characterise Kanye and Cudi like that are generally over-thirty, and know extremely little about hip-hop or modern music. It's true that to older music fans, Kanye is typically seen as a moron celebrity, but for the vast majority of younger music fans, he's a controversial genius. You might hate him, but very few would dispute that he is one of the most important and iconic artists of the century. 

Side-Note: I dislike the noise thing tacked onto the end of Strawberry Fields. Considering editing it out.

I find offense in that statement. You do realize people in their 30s were once young and in their teens and twenties right? For example when Kaynes first two mega hit record came out I was 22 and 23. Now I’m 37, like a lot of his original fans. We got older. I lived thru the excitement and the fun hype. Back then it was mostly if not all about the music. He’s changed. Most people would agree to that. His music is also just not as good as it was 13-15 years ago. Doesn’t matter the volume, the quality doesn’t match. Meanwhile I’m willing to bet that during kaynes breakthrough years you were probably 8-9 years old and are now retroactively going back to judge his work and I guess us “30 year olds who don’t know hip hop or modern music”. Shit, most of the “modern” music (Radiohead, Oasis, Coldplay, arcade Fire, Kanye, etc) you post about on this forum was made before you were 12 years old and the people that helped make those bands and albums hits were in their early 20s. So yes, us “30 year olds” get and understand hip hop and modern music.

I’m gonna be honest. There were plenty of young people who thought he was an idiot back in 2004-2005 as well. You just hear about it more now because of social media. But trust me, it’s the same. Like all bands or artists, there will always be a faction of people who don’t like you. All walks of life and ages.

And what are you basing that on? I can flat out tell you when in college I knew just as many people who didn’t like Kanye. They were all in their 20s. I can say the same for bands like Oasis and Radiohead in high school in the 90s. For every fan I found I can easily find the same amount who found those bands either depressing or Beatle Ripoffs. Also in their teens. And I’m sure people in their 20s and 30s echoed similar thoughts at the same time. You are definitely being too broad and general. You aren’t acknowledging people of ur own age group who currently think Kanye is an idiot. Trust me they are out there in force. Bottom line is some people like Kanye. Others don’t. I wouldn’t bring age into it. Because like I said I probably know more 20 year olds who think he’s an idiot than 30 year olds.

Okay, here's a challenge for you. Find where I said that statement. I never did. My statement was this:

The people who characterise modern rap acts like Kanye as talentless are, the majority of the time, over-thirty.

The classifier in that statement is people who characterise modern rap acts like Kanye as talentless. You're getting confused between that, and all over-thirties. Even if I'm only talking about 3% of other-thirties, the point is that will be a larger number than the people who characterise modern rap acts like Kanye as talentless who are under-thirty. At no point did I say young people couldn't think that, or that all older people do, just that if we look purely at the human beings who think modern rap stars are talentless idiots, then the majority of them will be over-thirty. I apologise for any offence you took, but the statements you're attributing to me simply didn't happen.

I mean this supports what I'm talking about. You are just completely firing from the hip. I know so many 20 year olds who don't like him at all and do not consider him a genius of any kind. They see him as someone who had huge records a decade ago and is now making less impactful music. That is the nature of the beast for all artists it seems. I still know plenty of 30 year olds who like him, especially his early stuff but they all pretty much acknowledge his glory days are over. Has nothing to do with age since I'm telling you that two different groups of people come to the same conclusion.

Eh?

Yeah, but he wrote it when he was 16, didn’t he? In 1958. One of his earliest compositions.

They used to do in their sets at Hamburg, whenever the power went out. So I guess Paul wanted his voice higher to mimic how he sounded then. Also, the track was sounding quite lumpen and dirge-like at the speed they originally recorded it (have a listen of ‘Take 2’ on the “Deluxe Edition” of Pepper on your streaming service of choice).

Why would the Kanye fan who thinks he is a genius be younger? It was the 30 to early 40 year old fan (20s and 30s at the time) who saw him in his prime on his rise up, cherished those records and singles. Lived it in real time. To me that is the fan base who should be saying the genius comments. The people who experienced It in real time. 20 year olds were mosty too young for that fruitful time of his creative life to appreciate it to its max. For them it’s a retrospective look back.

My point is and I’ve said it a couple times, you’re being too broad with your Kanye take. I’m saying I’ve seen it just as much the other way. I think you are looking too down on people over 30. Gotta be honest, I don’t hear too many people over 30 talk of him anymore unless it’s about his theatrics which dominate his headlines or the constant pushback of albums. It’s hard to be a Kanye fan in 2018. Too many antics when it should just be about the music. I also personally don’t know many people who would pick new Kanye over old Kanye. Maybe I know and work with bizarre people. It’s kinda like I don’t know many people who prefer post 2000s Oasis over their peak period. That’s an interesting and minority’s view take.