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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jul 14, 2018 20:01:42 GMT -5
When Noel walked away from Oasis, it was a combination of many factors. He mainly cited a band divided and Liam's continued bullshit.
When Noel announced he was going solo - with a 'backing band' of random people that at first looked to just fill in and do their part with no affinity to Noel himself - most speculated that we would now get a real solo album from Noel, one of which he's threatened to write since the year 2000.
NGHFB's was released in 2011. It was very much an Oasis album, sans Liam. It included left over Oasis material like Record Machine and Stop the Clocks. Critics and fans alike respected the album, believing that Noel's first album was always going to be connected to Oasis, and he was granted that leniency.
Around that same time, there were strong rumors - even somewhat confirmed by Noel - that he wanted to do more work with Amorphous Androgynous, and perhaps release a collaborative album. This project divided fans, but it would justify Noel going solo, trying a different direction, and result in something different. In the end, the project got shelved.
In 2015, Noel released his second album, Chasing Yesterday. The irony of the release was that while Noel sings that "It’s a shame how memory fades to grey/We let love get lost in anger chasing yesterday", he was still very much chasing bygone years: The material wasn't any different than his first release, and once more included remnants of Oasis - primarily Lock the Doors' chorus, the joyous 90s sound of You Know We Can't Go Back, and Revolution Song (as a bonus track).
Finally, in 2017, Noel labeled his forthcoming third album - Who Built the Moon? - as 'Cosmic Pop.' Fans were eager to finally get some deviation of the Oasis sound that he has since clung onto. And while Who Built the Moon has a more experimental feel, it is still an album that wouldn't sound out of place if it followed Oasis' seventh effort, Dig Out Your Soul.
During the WBTM tour, Noel added two permanent members to his band - Gem Archer and Chris Sharrock, both former members of Oasis. And with those additions, Noel is no longer a solo act. If Beady Eye was Oasis sans Noel, then Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds is now simply Oasis sans Liam.
With material that still recalls Oasis, and added members of that now defunct band, it begs the question: Why won't Noel just reform Oasis? In many ways, he already has.
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Post by The-Ghost-Dancer on Jul 14, 2018 20:45:14 GMT -5
This is the best post for what are your thoughts today the sequel
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Post by shannee on Jul 14, 2018 22:10:51 GMT -5
If Liam would stop insulting his wife, maybe he would
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Post by ritajerry on Jul 15, 2018 3:19:36 GMT -5
If Liam would stop insulting his wife, maybe he would Totally agree
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Post by freddy838 on Jul 15, 2018 6:34:25 GMT -5
Yep Oasis is Noel and Liam, that's why.
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Post by GlastoEls on Jul 16, 2018 6:42:40 GMT -5
Not sure I personally want it to happen any more.
I did until Liam’s comeback but not I’m curious to see where that goes.
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Post by Bonehead's Barber on Jul 16, 2018 6:46:31 GMT -5
Noel's talk of never wanting to be the front man, and being happy to just 'be Jimi Hendrix, on the side of the stage doing the odd backing vocal' was always bollocks.
Or, should I say, it was always bollocks post Be Here Now. I think Noel got a bit of the green-eyed monster, when looking at Liam during the BHN tour [One of the reasons I think he hates that album]. As soon as Gem came in, Noel considered himself the rhythm guitarist - he says so in an interview that I will look for and add into the comment a bit later on.
He started singing more songs on albums, started getting better at singing and, started talking about solo records.
He doesn't want to reform Oasis because he is now the main man. Were he to reform Oasis, it's a 50/50 split.
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Post by MONO on Jul 16, 2018 6:56:55 GMT -5
Not sure I personally want it to happen any more. I did until Liam’s comeback but not I’m curious to see where that goes. Same for me. Liam solo (album and gigs) is so good, there is no need for an Oasis comeback anymore. If Bonehead joins Liam on his second album and upcoming tour, I'm 100% happy.
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Post by bogaloo on Jul 16, 2018 8:07:00 GMT -5
Well I don't want oasis back together. No. And not only because I've been there and done that.
I also don't agree with the majority of the points you made. Being free to take baby steps is being free nonetheless.
Plus, the brothers are ok doing their thing on their own.
If you want more RnR vibe and plenty oasis songs-go see Liam. (Even though it may change in the future when he has more solo material under his belt).
If you want a songwriter and more subtle, detail attentive music- go see Noel.
If you like both- great! Plenty of options.
There is no need to be nasty, there is no need to permanently talk about it, there is also no need to milk this subject for marketing reasons.
No brother owns the band, no brother is entitled to claim to be its sole embodiment. None of them should be arrogant enough to claim the right to "allow" the other back.
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Post by nataliemckinney on Jul 17, 2018 20:50:57 GMT -5
(a) I wouldn't be able to afford the tickets (b) They still wouldn't tour my state, and I'd have to travel to see them, which also costs money, and I still couldn't afford the tickets (c) I wouldn't be able to get front row when they're together as a band (d) Even if I could... who would I stand in front of - Liam or Noel. I'd have to pick Noel and then I'd have to go to two shows so I could stand in front of Liam. Back to (a) (e) If their next album is anything like DOYS, I'd just be pissed off anyway.
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Post by madferitusa2025 on Jul 17, 2018 21:01:43 GMT -5
(a) I wouldn't be able to afford the tickets (b) They still wouldn't tour my state, and I'd have to travel to see them, which also costs money, and I still couldn't afford the tickets (c) I wouldn't be able to get front row when they're together as a band (d) Even if I could... who would I stand in front of - Liam or Noel. I'd have to pick Noel and then I'd have to go to two shows so I could stand in front of Liam. Back to (a) (e) If their next album is anything like DOYS, I'd just be pissed off anyway. Liam of course. Glance to the right, when appropriate. Job done
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Post by juaaaaaaaaaaaaaan on Jul 17, 2018 22:03:20 GMT -5
agree
both these dudes re embarrasing themselves. don't get me wrong, liam & noel are top quality performers and superstars in their own right, but they offer little to nothing new to the music industry. whereas oasis is one of the last great rock n roll bands and what they achieved will never be replicated in no shape or form and would stand out amongst the rest of the 'big' names out there. the void oasis left cant be filled. other than the rolling stones and the who, can't think of any other band that can stir the emotions these 2 brothers can.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Jul 17, 2018 23:49:37 GMT -5
Well I don't want oasis back together. No. And not only because I've been there and done that. I also don't agree with the majority of the points you made. Being free to take baby steps is being free nonetheless. Plus, the brothers are ok doing their thing on their own. If you want more RnR vibe and plenty oasis songs-go see Liam. (Even though it may change in the future when he has more solo material under his belt). If you want a songwriter and more subtle, detail attentive music- go see Noel. If you like both- great! Plenty of options. There is no need to be nasty, there is no need to permanently talk about it, there is also no need to milk this subject for marketing reasons. No brother owns the band, no brother is entitled to claim to be its sole embodiment. None of them should be arrogant enough to claim the right to "allow" the other back. RNR vibe?
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Post by mossy on Jul 18, 2018 1:25:54 GMT -5
Around that same time, there were strong rumors - even somewhat confirmed by Noel - that he wanted to do more work with Amorphous Androgynous, and perhaps release a collaborative album. This project divided fans, but it would justify Noel going solo, trying a different direction, and result in something different. In the end, the project got shelved. Strong rumours? Somewhat confirmed? Dude, he announced it along with his debut album in his first solo press conference... Yeah, The Right Stuff is interchangeable with songs like Dream On. Beady, if you’re going to write huge posts at least have a nuanced view man. No it’s not. X
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Post by mimmihopps on Jul 18, 2018 1:38:17 GMT -5
(e) If their next album is anything like DOYS, I'd just be pissed off anyway. It'll be same for me.
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Post by mossy on Jul 18, 2018 1:47:41 GMT -5
Well I don't want oasis back together. No. And not only because I've been there and done that. I also don't agree with the majority of the points you made. Being free to take baby steps is being free nonetheless. Plus, the brothers are ok doing their thing on their own. If you want more RnR vibe and plenty oasis songs-go see Liam. (Even though it may change in the future when he has more solo material under his belt). If you want a songwriter and more subtle, detail attentive music- go see Noel. If you like both- great! Plenty of options. There is no need to be nasty, there is no need to permanently talk about it, there is also no need to milk this subject for marketing reasons. No brother owns the band, no brother is entitled to claim to be its sole embodiment. None of them should be arrogant enough to claim the right to "allow" the other back. RNR vibe? Does it get more r ‘n’ r than this!? X
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Post by bringmethemonkey on Jul 18, 2018 2:29:31 GMT -5
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Post by bogaloo on Jul 18, 2018 6:21:05 GMT -5
Well I don't want oasis back together. No. And not only because I've been there and done that. I also don't agree with the majority of the points you made. Being free to take baby steps is being free nonetheless. Plus, the brothers are ok doing their thing on their own. If you want more RnR vibe and plenty oasis songs-go see Liam. (Even though it may change in the future when he has more solo material under his belt). If you want a songwriter and more subtle, detail attentive music- go see Noel. If you like both- great! Plenty of options. There is no need to be nasty, there is no need to permanently talk about it, there is also no need to milk this subject for marketing reasons. No brother owns the band, no brother is entitled to claim to be its sole embodiment. None of them should be arrogant enough to claim the right to "allow" the other back. RNR vibe? Mobile phone typo 😂
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Post by The Chief on Jul 20, 2018 15:42:15 GMT -5
When Noel walked away from Oasis, it was a combination of many factors. He mainly cited a band divided and Liam's continued bullshit. When Noel announced he was going solo - with a 'backing band' of random people that at first looked to just fill in and do their part with no affinity to Noel himself - most speculated that we would now get a real solo album from Noel, one of which he's threatened to write since the year 2000. NGHFB's was released in 2011. It was very much an Oasis album, sans Liam. It included left over Oasis material like Record Machine and Stop the Clocks. Critics and fans alike respected the album, believing that Noel's first album was always going to be connected to Oasis, and he was granted that leniency. Around that same time, there were strong rumors - even somewhat confirmed by Noel - that he wanted to do more work with Amorphous Androgynous, and perhaps release a collaborative album. This project divided fans, but it would justify Noel going solo, trying a different direction, and result in something different. In the end, the project got shelved. In 2015, Noel released his second album, Chasing Yesterday. The irony of the release was that while Noel sings that "It’s a shame how memory fades to grey/We let love get lost in anger chasing yesterday", he was still very much chasing bygone years: The material wasn't any different than his first release, and once more included remnants of Oasis - primarily Lock the Doors' chorus, the joyous 90s sound of You Know We Can't Go Back, and Revolution Song (as a bonus track). Finally, in 2017, Noel labeled his forthcoming third album - Who Built the Moon? - as 'Cosmic Pop.' Fans were eager to finally get some deviation of the Oasis sound that he has since clung onto. And while Who Built the Moon has a more experimental feel, it is still an album that wouldn't sound out of place if it followed Oasis' seventh effort, Dig Out Your Soul. During the WBTM tour, Noel added two permanent members to his band - Gem Archer and Chris Sharrock, both former members of Oasis. And with those additions, Noel is no longer a solo act. If Beady Eye was Oasis sans Noel, then Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds is now simply Oasis sans Liam. With material that still recalls Oasis, and added members of that now defunct band, it begs the question: Why won't Noel just reform Oasis? In many ways, he already has. Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds is now simply Oasis sans Liam and Andy. That being said Liam's not just another member. He was the frontman, the attitude, the ego, the image. As much as people see Noel's as a dictator, Liam was never a yes man. Noel couldn't simply present a record like WBTM to Liam and he would have just gone in and sang it. And although it's true that Noel's solo career is kind of reminiscent of Oasis, it's only true if we're talking about songs that Noel was singing. Liam would have never been part of a record like Who Built The Moon. He's into guitar rock and roll and Noel's moving away from that. As You Were and WBTM cannot be more different from one another. Added to the fact that Noel's in charge of everything, can do everything like he wants to do it without having to get a vote from members of the band and, most importantly, the singer, I don't see why he would even want to reform Oasis. Plus, he's clearly mates with everyone in his current band. With Liam in the picture, that's potential negativity and fights which I'm sure Noel (nor Gem for that matter) miss. He hasn't been mates with his brother for years. Honestly I think they're both better where they are now. Liam's doing his rock and roll thing and is 100% in charge and Noel's doing his thing and we are getting one record per brother. It's a win win win.
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Post by globe on Jul 20, 2018 16:57:21 GMT -5
When Noel walked away from Oasis, it was a combination of many factors. He mainly cited a band divided and Liam's continued bullshit. When Noel announced he was going solo - with a 'backing band' of random people that at first looked to just fill in and do their part with no affinity to Noel himself - most speculated that we would now get a real solo album from Noel, one of which he's threatened to write since the year 2000. NGHFB's was released in 2011. It was very much an Oasis album, sans Liam. It included left over Oasis material like Record Machine and Stop the Clocks. Critics and fans alike respected the album, believing that Noel's first album was always going to be connected to Oasis, and he was granted that leniency. Around that same time, there were strong rumors - even somewhat confirmed by Noel - that he wanted to do more work with Amorphous Androgynous, and perhaps release a collaborative album. This project divided fans, but it would justify Noel going solo, trying a different direction, and result in something different. In the end, the project got shelved. In 2015, Noel released his second album, Chasing Yesterday. The irony of the release was that while Noel sings that "It’s a shame how memory fades to grey/We let love get lost in anger chasing yesterday", he was still very much chasing bygone years: The material wasn't any different than his first release, and once more included remnants of Oasis - primarily Lock the Doors' chorus, the joyous 90s sound of You Know We Can't Go Back, and Revolution Song (as a bonus track). Finally, in 2017, Noel labeled his forthcoming third album - Who Built the Moon? - as 'Cosmic Pop.' Fans were eager to finally get some deviation of the Oasis sound that he has since clung onto. And while Who Built the Moon has a more experimental feel, it is still an album that wouldn't sound out of place if it followed Oasis' seventh effort, Dig Out Your Soul. During the WBTM tour, Noel added two permanent members to his band - Gem Archer and Chris Sharrock, both former members of Oasis. And with those additions, Noel is no longer a solo act. If Beady Eye was Oasis sans Noel, then Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds is now simply Oasis sans Liam. With material that still recalls Oasis, and added members of that now defunct band, it begs the question: Why won't Noel just reform Oasis? In many ways, he already has. Mate seriously, stay aff the Red Bull eh.
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Post by Nyron Nosworthy on Jul 21, 2018 18:27:23 GMT -5
Because reforming Oasis would mean working again with Liam, and if their relationship wasn't beyond repair before, it certainly is now after the One Love / Sara comments. But I think you knew that.
And aside from that, Oasis had long since stopped being a 'band', it became a travelling behemoth that toured the world playing the hits from 25 years ago. Noel is 51 and, unlike Liam, has moved on from that. He seems to be very happy where is he - a big enough draw still to tour the world and sell out arenas whilst still having the freedom to do what he likes without the pressure of having to appease the fans.
When they split up, I wasn't particularly bothered that they wouldn't be releasing any more music as Oasis, just that we'd never get to see them tour or perform live again. But Liam caters for that market perfectly on his own now, there isn't really any reason to reform Oasis.
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Post by matt on Jul 21, 2018 19:44:33 GMT -5
When Noel walked away from Oasis, it was a combination of many factors. He mainly cited a band divided and Liam's continued bullshit. When Noel announced he was going solo - with a 'backing band' of random people that at first looked to just fill in and do their part with no affinity to Noel himself - most speculated that we would now get a real solo album from Noel, one of which he's threatened to write since the year 2000. NGHFB's was released in 2011. It was very much an Oasis album, sans Liam. It included left over Oasis material like Record Machine and Stop the Clocks. Critics and fans alike respected the album, believing that Noel's first album was always going to be connected to Oasis, and he was granted that leniency. Around that same time, there were strong rumors - even somewhat confirmed by Noel - that he wanted to do more work with Amorphous Androgynous, and perhaps release a collaborative album. This project divided fans, but it would justify Noel going solo, trying a different direction, and result in something different. In the end, the project got shelved. In 2015, Noel released his second album, Chasing Yesterday. The irony of the release was that while Noel sings that "It’s a shame how memory fades to grey/We let love get lost in anger chasing yesterday", he was still very much chasing bygone years: The material wasn't any different than his first release, and once more included remnants of Oasis - primarily Lock the Doors' chorus, the joyous 90s sound of You Know We Can't Go Back, and Revolution Song (as a bonus track). Finally, in 2017, Noel labeled his forthcoming third album - Who Built the Moon? - as 'Cosmic Pop.' Fans were eager to finally get some deviation of the Oasis sound that he has since clung onto. And while Who Built the Moon has a more experimental feel, it is still an album that wouldn't sound out of place if it followed Oasis' seventh effort, Dig Out Your Soul. During the WBTM tour, Noel added two permanent members to his band - Gem Archer and Chris Sharrock, both former members of Oasis. And with those additions, Noel is no longer a solo act. If Beady Eye was Oasis sans Noel, then Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds is now simply Oasis sans Liam. With material that still recalls Oasis, and added members of that now defunct band, it begs the question: Why won't Noel just reform Oasis? In many ways, he already has. Who’d be sad enough to want songs from Gem and Andy? That two couldn’t write to save their lives with Oasis and Beady Eye and Liam’s subsequent solo success just showed how much they held him back in Beady Eye. I’d rather hear Liam continue his revival by working with industry professionals who are getting the best from him in years, and I’d rather see Noel continue to expand his sonic horizons after the brilliant Who Built The Moon. If Oasis reunite they’d have to make a great album and actually put some effort into it for the first time in aeons. Chuck away all that recent good stuff from both brothers and revert back to the uninspired mid tempo drudgery of Dig Out Your Soul and the merry go round of only five good tracks being released every three years? Forget it. Whether it’s critically or commercially, both brothers are doing well - we got more music than we’d ever imagine last year from both of their solo endeavours. And more importantly, the music was very good.
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Post by madferitusa2025 on Jul 21, 2018 20:03:12 GMT -5
When Noel walked away from Oasis, it was a combination of many factors. He mainly cited a band divided and Liam's continued bullshit. When Noel announced he was going solo - with a 'backing band' of random people that at first looked to just fill in and do their part with no affinity to Noel himself - most speculated that we would now get a real solo album from Noel, one of which he's threatened to write since the year 2000. NGHFB's was released in 2011. It was very much an Oasis album, sans Liam. It included left over Oasis material like Record Machine and Stop the Clocks. Critics and fans alike respected the album, believing that Noel's first album was always going to be connected to Oasis, and he was granted that leniency. Around that same time, there were strong rumors - even somewhat confirmed by Noel - that he wanted to do more work with Amorphous Androgynous, and perhaps release a collaborative album. This project divided fans, but it would justify Noel going solo, trying a different direction, and result in something different. In the end, the project got shelved. In 2015, Noel released his second album, Chasing Yesterday. The irony of the release was that while Noel sings that "It’s a shame how memory fades to grey/We let love get lost in anger chasing yesterday", he was still very much chasing bygone years: The material wasn't any different than his first release, and once more included remnants of Oasis - primarily Lock the Doors' chorus, the joyous 90s sound of You Know We Can't Go Back, and Revolution Song (as a bonus track). Finally, in 2017, Noel labeled his forthcoming third album - Who Built the Moon? - as 'Cosmic Pop.' Fans were eager to finally get some deviation of the Oasis sound that he has since clung onto. And while Who Built the Moon has a more experimental feel, it is still an album that wouldn't sound out of place if it followed Oasis' seventh effort, Dig Out Your Soul. During the WBTM tour, Noel added two permanent members to his band - Gem Archer and Chris Sharrock, both former members of Oasis. And with those additions, Noel is no longer a solo act. If Beady Eye was Oasis sans Noel, then Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds is now simply Oasis sans Liam. With material that still recalls Oasis, and added members of that now defunct band, it begs the question: Why won't Noel just reform Oasis? In many ways, he already has. Who’d be sad enough to want songs from Gem and Andy? That two couldn’t write to save their lives with Oasis and Beady Eye and Liam’s subsequent solo success just showed how much they held him back in Beady Eye. I’d rather hear Liam continue his revival by working with industry professionals who are getting the best from him in years, and I’d rather see Noel continue to expand his sonic horizons after the brilliant Who Built The Moon.Chuck away all that recent good stuff from both brothers and revert back to the uninspired mid tempo drudgery of Dig Out Your Soul? Forget it.I've seen enough take downs on your part to understand your feelings about Gem. I kinda dig his stuff. To each their own. Would much rather hear some new stuff from both. Loving new Liam. The new Noel tunes I enjoy, seem to be the least favorite around here. It's ok though. Interested to see where he goes next. Conclusion: Fuck the reunion. Maybe later, for sure not now though. Let it play out.
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Post by uboasis on Jul 21, 2018 21:38:56 GMT -5
I want a reunion for one day only and that would be in if they ever got inducted to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
In my opinion I have enjoyed 6 albums in seven years which are in general on par or better than the last 4 Oasis albums which spanned 9 years. I don't want a real Oasis reunion.
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Post by cigarsinhell on Jul 21, 2018 22:21:21 GMT -5
If Liam would stop insulting his wife, maybe he would Totally agree Maybe Liam just doesn't feel all warm and fuzzy about someone who wishes he was dead.
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