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Post by captaincrankshaft on May 21, 2019 6:00:53 GMT -5
Those of you wanting Oasis songs in the DVD: Put Definitely Maybe on in the background while watching it. You’re more than welcome. Happy to help. Looking forward to the heavily scripted, i'm sorry, 100% real life documentary Liam is about to put upon us. Is that you, Noel?
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Post by stxparkamonkey on May 21, 2019 11:07:18 GMT -5
Isn't there something like fair use? Where they can use clips so long as their less than like 20 seconds or something like that??
Granted it might not be the same as layering the One Love version of Live Forever while the credits roll out a montage but it would piss Noel off and he couldn't do anything to stop it.
But seriously, Liam takes two pops at Noel and his wife in the freaking trailer, again while I am first and foremost a LG fan, I can understand Noel telling him to piss off.
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Post by shannee on May 21, 2019 11:34:36 GMT -5
The whole point of the movie is Liam’s come back and new album, so it really should be able to stand on its own. I think it will be better for him in the long run if it’s less about oasis and more about himself as a solo artist. And I can understand Noel not wanting a film he has no quality control over being full of oasis songs. We know he’s a control freak. Who wouldn’t be in his shoes.
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Post by shannee on May 21, 2019 11:41:26 GMT -5
variety.com/2019/film/markets-festivals/liam-gallagher-screen-media-oasis-1203220666/amp/?__twitter_impression=trueScreen Media has acquired North American rights to Charlie Lightening and Gavin Fitzgerald’s feature documentary “Liam Gallagher: As It Was.” The film follows the former Oasis frontman as he finds himself on the periphery of the rock ‘n’ roll world after years spent at the white hot center of the music world. Screen Media will release the film in the fall and will time it with the debut Gallagher’s upcoming second solo album. “Liam Gallagher: As It Was” premiered at the Cannes Market this week. Lightening, who previously directed the video for Gallagher’s video “Chinatown,” and his co-director Fitzgerald were granted behind-the-scenes access as Gallagher mounted a comeback. For years, Oasis topped the charts with catchy songs such as “Wonderwall” and “Champagne Supernova,” but Gallagher also dominated headlines with his loutish behavior and feuds with his brother and bandmate Noel. He was able to recapture some of that heat with the 2017 debut of his solo album “As You Were,” a critical and commercial success. RELATED The Man Who Killed Don-Quixote Terry Gilliam's 'The Man Who Killed Don Quixote' Bought for North America Screen Media Comes of Age With New Parent Company, Splashy Deals The deal was negotiated at Cannes by Seth Needle, senior VP of worldwide acquisitions at Screen Media, with Mike Runagall at Altitude Film Sales on behalf of the filmmakers. The movie is set for release in the U.K. and Ireland on June 7, including a screening at the legendary Alexandra Palace venue, a special event that sold out in 90 seconds. “Liam is one of the most influential and accomplished musicians of the last 30 years,” said Needle. “‘Liam Gallagher: As It Was’ showcases his talent and personality like nothing before.” Lightening previously directed projects about Paul McCartney and Jamiroquai. Fitzgerald directed “Conor McGregor: Notorious,” as well as “The Fighting Irish,” a look at MMA fighters. “Liam Gallagher: As It Was” is produced by Steven Lappin. Screen Media also bought the sci-fi/horror anthology movie “Portals” at this year’s Cannes. Don’t know if I can wait until Fall.. That’s like 4 months of torture reading posts about here in the forum
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Post by themanwithnoname on May 21, 2019 11:58:00 GMT -5
variety.com/2019/film/markets-festivals/liam-gallagher-screen-media-oasis-1203220666/amp/?__twitter_impression=trueScreen Media has acquired North American rights to Charlie Lightening and Gavin Fitzgerald’s feature documentary “Liam Gallagher: As It Was.” The film follows the former Oasis frontman as he finds himself on the periphery of the rock ‘n’ roll world after years spent at the white hot center of the music world. Screen Media will release the film in the fall and will time it with the debut Gallagher’s upcoming second solo album. “Liam Gallagher: As It Was” premiered at the Cannes Market this week. Lightening, who previously directed the video for Gallagher’s video “Chinatown,” and his co-director Fitzgerald were granted behind-the-scenes access as Gallagher mounted a comeback. For years, Oasis topped the charts with catchy songs such as “Wonderwall” and “Champagne Supernova,” but Gallagher also dominated headlines with his loutish behavior and feuds with his brother and bandmate Noel. He was able to recapture some of that heat with the 2017 debut of his solo album “As You Were,” a critical and commercial success. RELATED The Man Who Killed Don-Quixote Terry Gilliam's 'The Man Who Killed Don Quixote' Bought for North America Screen Media Comes of Age With New Parent Company, Splashy Deals The deal was negotiated at Cannes by Seth Needle, senior VP of worldwide acquisitions at Screen Media, with Mike Runagall at Altitude Film Sales on behalf of the filmmakers. The movie is set for release in the U.K. and Ireland on June 7, including a screening at the legendary Alexandra Palace venue, a special event that sold out in 90 seconds. “Liam is one of the most influential and accomplished musicians of the last 30 years,” said Needle. “‘Liam Gallagher: As It Was’ showcases his talent and personality like nothing before.” Lightening previously directed projects about Paul McCartney and Jamiroquai. Fitzgerald directed “Conor McGregor: Notorious,” as well as “The Fighting Irish,” a look at MMA fighters. “Liam Gallagher: As It Was” is produced by Steven Lappin. Screen Media also bought the sci-fi/horror anthology movie “Portals” at this year’s Cannes. Don’t know if I can wait until Fall.. That’s like 4 months of torture reading posts about here in the forum Just order the DVD - or is there a region issue?
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Post by stxparkamonkey on May 21, 2019 13:46:18 GMT -5
Don’t know if I can wait until Fall.. That’s like 4 months of torture reading posts about here in the forum Just order the DVD - or is there a region issue? I won't order until I know for a fact it's region free since I don't own a PC and my bluray player is not region free.
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Post by shannee on May 21, 2019 13:55:13 GMT -5
I assumed it would be region 2. I have a region 2 DVD player, bought it ages ago to watch peep show. Might be time to upgrade it to Blu-ray
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Post by fartpanic on May 22, 2019 7:02:11 GMT -5
“Was it frustrating that Noel put the stoppers on you using any Oasis songs for the film?” “Yes. But that goes back to the thing of getting things made. At first you hear about that stuff and then you move past it. And in some ways it’s the best thing that could have happened. It shows, again, that Liam is his own person and where there’s a will there’s a way.” I don’t really understand what Charlie means here, he doesn’t answer the question clearly (on purpose maybe?) Is he saying they accepted Noel’s stance and there are no Oasis songs? Or is he saying they had to overcome this hurdle and fought it “where there’s a will there’s a way” ? I suppose it’s how you interpret it. I really don’t know the answer to this question. I think hes saying there's no Oasis content but that's okay because it can clearly highlight how strong all of Liams solo work is. I cant see a performance of Wall Of Glass at One Love getting anywhere near the same emotional response that the film would have wanted but we'll see.
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Post by fartpanic on May 22, 2019 7:02:22 GMT -5
“Was it frustrating that Noel put the stoppers on you using any Oasis songs for the film?” “Yes. But that goes back to the thing of getting things made. At first you hear about that stuff and then you move past it. And in some ways it’s the best thing that could have happened. It shows, again, that Liam is his own person and where there’s a will there’s a way.” I don’t really understand what Charlie means here, he doesn’t answer the question clearly (on purpose maybe?) Is he saying they accepted Noel’s stance and there are no Oasis songs? Or is he saying they had to overcome this hurdle and fought it “where there’s a will there’s a way” ? I suppose it’s how you interpret it. I really don’t know the answer to this question. I think hes saying there's no Oasis content but that's okay because it can clearly highlight how strong all of Liams solo work is. I cant see a performance of Wall Of Glass at One Love getting anywhere near the same emotional response that the film would have wanted but we'll see.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2019 14:07:23 GMT -5
I cant see a performance of Wall Of Glass at One Love getting anywhere near the same emotional response that the film would have wanted but we'll see. Would it be dishonest to cut it with crowd reaction shots from other songs? I don't know.
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Post by lalaland on May 23, 2019 15:45:34 GMT -5
I cant see a performance of Wall Of Glass at One Love getting anywhere near the same emotional response that the film would have wanted but we'll see. Would it be dishonest to cut it with crowd reaction shots from other songs? I don't know. Dishonest... yeh, kinda imo. But then again, I remember watching One Love live on tv and just the massive cheer from the crowd when he came on stage would suffice for the narrative of the doc I'd say
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Post by bestwick8 on May 23, 2019 18:30:04 GMT -5
This might have been explained before but I don’t get why Liam can play oasis songs live all the time, yet it can’t make the cut for this documentary. And I found the answer Charlie gave wasn’t clear, could be past tense where Noel gave them a hard time but everything worked out.
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Post by mancraider on May 24, 2019 1:09:24 GMT -5
This might have been explained before but I don’t get why Liam can play oasis songs live all the time, yet it can’t make the cut for this documentary. And I found the answer Charlie gave wasn’t clear, could be past tense where Noel gave them a hard time but everything worked out. basically you don't need permission to play a song live but you do to record it and use it. Liam doesn't need Noel's consent to play them live but did for using them on his dvd. Noel said no. Not sure but I'd assume it is the same for a concert dvd so it'll be interesting to see whether Noel blocks that as well or it was this film in particular that he against.
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Post by bestwick8 on May 24, 2019 8:42:10 GMT -5
This might have been explained before but I don’t get why Liam can play oasis songs live all the time, yet it can’t make the cut for this documentary. And I found the answer Charlie gave wasn’t clear, could be past tense where Noel gave them a hard time but everything worked out. basically you don't need permission to play a song live but you do to record it and use it. Liam doesn't need Noel's consent to play them live but did for using them on his dvd. Noel said no. Not sure but I'd assume it is the same for a concert dvd so it'll be interesting to see whether Noel blocks that as well or it was this film in particular that he against. But Liam’s gigs are streamed and recorded all the time, even for promotional use...
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Post by mancraider on May 24, 2019 8:53:54 GMT -5
basically you don't need permission to play a song live but you do to record it and use it. Liam doesn't need Noel's consent to play them live but did for using them on his dvd. Noel said no. Not sure but I'd assume it is the same for a concert dvd so it'll be interesting to see whether Noel blocks that as well or it was this film in particular that he against. But Liam’s gigs are streamed and recorded all the time, even for promotional use... Not as an official release by Liam. I don't know the rules surrounding live streams of festivals tbh but I'd imagine it comes under the same umbrella as playing live which doesn't require explicit permission. Are there any examples of anyone releasing footage of Liam singing a Noel Oasis tune for profit? I can't think of any off the top of my head.
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Post by Bonehead's Barber on May 24, 2019 9:33:03 GMT -5
But Liam’s gigs are streamed and recorded all the time, even for promotional use... Not as an official release by Liam. I don't know the rules surrounding live streams of festivals tbh but I'd imagine it comes under the same umbrella as playing live which doesn't require explicit permission. Are there any examples of anyone releasing footage of Liam singing a Noel Oasis tune for profit? I can't think of any off the top of my head. Beady Eye and the Olympics which (surprise, surprise) Noel was a vagina about
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Post by bestwick8 on May 24, 2019 9:43:11 GMT -5
Yeah I just don’t think this documentary would be the same without oasis songs, especially the one love concert being cut out...
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Post by Jack on May 24, 2019 10:01:21 GMT -5
The doc is about Liam's solo career and music, not Oasis'. I for one am glad that the doc wont feature any Oasis tracks. I'm a lot more keen to hear AYW songs live than hearing 'Wonderwall' and 'Live Forever' for the millionth time.
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Post by stxparkamonkey on May 24, 2019 10:04:13 GMT -5
But Liam’s gigs are streamed and recorded all the time, even for promotional use... Not as an official release by Liam. I don't know the rules surrounding live streams of festivals tbh but I'd imagine it comes under the same umbrella as playing live which doesn't require explicit permission. Are there any examples of anyone releasing footage of Liam singing a Noel Oasis tune for profit? I can't think of any off the top of my head. If Liam were to release a live ALBUM he would not need Noel's permisssion to cover any song, he just has to pay the standard writer's royalty fee. DVD's/Films are a different kettle of fish.
Case in point when a reissue of an Elvis film was being prepared, they needed Chuck Berry to sign off on it's use/royalty payment for Johnny B Goode. He (or his company) ignored or declined permission so the whole JBG sequence had to be redone using music they could acquire the rights to.
Original intro with JBG
Reissued intro
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Post by Flashbax on May 24, 2019 10:26:06 GMT -5
What about the Spotify single with Wonderwall?
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Post by mancraider on May 24, 2019 10:45:17 GMT -5
Not as an official release by Liam. I don't know the rules surrounding live streams of festivals tbh but I'd imagine it comes under the same umbrella as playing live which doesn't require explicit permission. Are there any examples of anyone releasing footage of Liam singing a Noel Oasis tune for profit? I can't think of any off the top of my head. Beady Eye and the Olympics which (surprise, surprise) Noel was a vagina about Was that released officially? I didn't know that.
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Post by stxparkamonkey on May 24, 2019 10:51:48 GMT -5
What about the Spotify single with Wonderwall? It's a standard cover so Noel gets standard royalty AFAIK, no permission needed.
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Post by mancraider on May 24, 2019 11:03:41 GMT -5
It seems a complicated business, reading up on it. Rules are different in different countries as well.
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Post by stxparkamonkey on May 24, 2019 11:55:40 GMT -5
It seems a complicated business, reading up on it. Rules are different in different countries as well. Oh yeah, that's also why certain songs are autoblocked on iTunes, youtube, etc
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Post by lg on May 24, 2019 13:08:19 GMT -5
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