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Post by NYR on Feb 20, 2018 8:47:11 GMT -5
Thought we may as well have a new thread for the midterms.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Feb 20, 2018 18:33:15 GMT -5
It’s normal for the opposition party to pick up seats in the midterms, but will Dems pick up enough?
If the GOP holds both chambers after Novermber, that’s Trump’s first term sorted....
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Post by NYR on Mar 26, 2018 15:57:44 GMT -5
It’s normal for the opposition party to pick up seats in the midterms, but will Dems pick up enough? If the GOP holds both chambers after Novermber, that’s Trump’s first term sorted.... Judging by how many people marched yesterday, and how low the approval ratings are for Trump and the GOP, it's very possible the Dems will retake the House and Senate. PA's forced redistricting also helps the Dems.
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Post by NYR on Nov 5, 2018 23:49:00 GMT -5
Be sure to vote!
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Post by Guy Fawkes on Nov 6, 2018 10:35:45 GMT -5
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Nov 6, 2018 10:49:17 GMT -5
Forgot this thread even existed.
Anyway, split decision (Dems take the House, Repubs gain in the Senate) seems certain.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Nov 6, 2018 10:51:10 GMT -5
Tomorrow begins the 2020 Presidential Election cycle. Crazy.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2018 10:55:02 GMT -5
Tomorrow begins the 2020 Presidential Election cycle. Crazy. I've never wanted a down vote option more, EVER.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Nov 6, 2018 11:07:52 GMT -5
Let's be honest, CNN does suck.
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Post by matt on Nov 6, 2018 14:28:00 GMT -5
Let's be honest, CNN does suck. For sure, I’ll have to take your word for it as you must know what sucks having watched Fox News.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Nov 6, 2018 15:27:10 GMT -5
We're all Republicans tonight, surely.
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Post by funhouse on Nov 6, 2018 15:27:35 GMT -5
The comparison between CNN and Fox News is a bit like the comparison between Clinton and Trump. The first one's bad, the other one's much worse.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Nov 6, 2018 21:35:54 GMT -5
9.40pm....House called for the Dems by both NBC and Fox News.
As expected.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Nov 6, 2018 22:04:02 GMT -5
10pm.....Republicans crushing in the Senate, though.
Again, as expected.
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Post by spaneli on Nov 7, 2018 0:36:43 GMT -5
Democrats look to take somewhere in the neighborhood of 30-38 seats.
If that sounds small compared to the usual 40 that a President with Trump's approval rating will lose, keep in mind that jerrymandering/redistricting severely undercuts gains for Dems. Republicans will most likely have that to thank for not taking much bigger losses tonight.
Still, what's also important for Dems is that they've now gained full control of 4 states (that is Governor and Legislature): New York, Illinois, New Mexico, and Colorado. Illinois, my home state, is especially important as it's only lean Democrat. Gaining full control here for Dems is massive. Dems are also well set-up to do that with a few more states in 2020. Elections are just as much about the long term as the short term. Ask Republicans tonight, how much full state control got them (it basically saved them from all out defeat).
Edit: add Maine to the list of states with full Democratic control. That makes 5.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2018 7:13:29 GMT -5
Awesome... now congress can get back to wasting time and getting nothing done.
I don't see how either side can really take solace in last nights outcome.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Nov 7, 2018 9:23:10 GMT -5
Awesome... now congress can get back to wasting time and getting nothing done. I don't see how either side can really take solace in last nights outcome. Usually getting nothing done would be deeply frustrating but if nothing includes stopping Mr Trump building a wall for example then nothing will probably be better than something.
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Post by spaneli on Nov 7, 2018 11:11:06 GMT -5
Awesome... now congress can get back to wasting time and getting nothing done. I don't see how either side can really take solace in last nights outcome. Depends on who becomes the Speaker. If it's Pelosi, there will be deals to be made on medium legislation. She's a deal maker and a centrist at heart. And in the end, Pelosi is smart enough to know that the Democrats have to run on something in about 9 months. If it's not Pelosi, then the chances of stagnation goes up. Because who ever gets the job is gonna want to show that they're tough on Republicans (Pelosi will be tough, but not as hardline, and not as much red meat as far left liberals will want). And in the end, and I've been saying this for a while, but Trump isn't an ideologically based Republican. He's really a Republican in name only. I think we'll see a lot of Trump frustrating his own party in the Senate and Democrats in the House at the same time. In between, there might be some deals and backstabbing to be done.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Nov 7, 2018 12:37:02 GMT -5
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Post by tomlivesforever on Nov 7, 2018 13:41:58 GMT -5
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Nov 8, 2018 12:09:23 GMT -5
The Senate gains were important, because The Senate should remain in the Republicans hold until at least 2022. So even if a Democrat is elected president in 2020, s/he will have to contend with a Republican Senate, which would complicate matters considerably.
My dad, who is a Republican and voted against Trump in both 2016 and 2018, believes that as things currently stand Trump is on his way to re-election in 2020. I agree.
As long as the economy remains this strong, and Donald Trump remains on the right side of the law, and there are no major wars you'd expect Trump to win again in 2020. Big Ifs, of course, and two years is a long time in politics, so who knows what will happen - especially with this White House.
I will say, though, that the best way for the Democrats to unseat Trump is through the 2020 election and not by Mueller's investigation, Impeachment/Conviction, or invoking the 25th Amendment.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2018 13:39:19 GMT -5
The Senate gains were important, because The Senate should remain in the Republicans hold until at least 2022. So even if a Democrat is elected president in 2020, s/he will have to contend with a Republican Senate, which would complicate matters considerably. My dad, who is a Republican and voted against Trump in both 2016 and 2018, believes that as things currently stand Trump is on his way to re-election in 2020. I agree. As long as the economy remains this strong, and Donald Trump remains on the right side of the law, and there are no major wars you'd expect Trump to win again in 2020. Big Ifs, of course, and two years is a long time in politics, so who knows what will happen - especially with this White House. I will say, though, that the best way for the Democrats to unseat Trump is through the 2020 election and not by Mueller's investigation, Impeachment/Conviction, or invoking the 25th Amendment. Sound as a pound. Congrats on Mittens’ victory btw.
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Post by funhouse on Nov 8, 2018 13:59:35 GMT -5
My dad, who is a Republican and voted against Trump in both 2016 and 2018, believes that as things currently stand Trump is on his way to re-election in 2020. That TOTALLY depends on what kind of Democrat he's put against.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2018 18:03:30 GMT -5
My dad, who is a Republican and voted against Trump in both 2016 and 2018, believes that as things currently stand Trump is on his way to re-election in 2020. That TOTALLY depends on what kind of Democrat he's put against. I feel like Biden or Bloomberg could take him down.
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Post by funhouse on Nov 9, 2018 0:09:35 GMT -5
That TOTALLY depends on what kind of Democrat he's put against. I feel like Biden or Bloomberg could take him down. That is the exact type of Democrat that could potentially lose.
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