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Post by Lennon2217 on Jan 18, 2018 12:14:32 GMT -5
This can all be resolved by a good old fashioned arm wrestling competition.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Jan 18, 2018 12:18:04 GMT -5
I know a lot of people who haven't that changed much, they were top people when we were teenagers and still are. Liam has changed a little, I think he's mellowed out a lot. I don't know. For me, I think it's best to grow as a person not stay stagnant, even if you were a top person. I can't imagine anyone has reached their zenith in their teen years. Liam has changed but I can only hope beyond all hope that I'm not like the way he is today in eight years. Seems a bit vague to me, how and in what way's doesn one "grow". |
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Post by underneaththesky on Jan 18, 2018 12:18:15 GMT -5
I should clarify. I hope I am not paying child support after leaving a trail of broken marriages and illegitimate children. I guess I'm fuzzy on what constitutes greatness. But, no, I won't have sung on some great records and be known for my Twitter comments is I guess what you mean. what about touring the world with your Lady playing gigs, getting pissed and eating nice food? |
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Post by sfsorrow on Jan 18, 2018 12:23:19 GMT -5
I should clarify. I hope I am not paying child support after leaving a trail of broken marriages and illegitimate children. I guess I'm fuzzy on what constitutes greatness. But, no, I won't have sung on some great records and be known for my Twitter comments is I guess what you mean. what about touring the world with your Lady playing gigs, getting pissed and eating nice food? Again, if in the next eight years, I have racked up two failed marriages, have two illegitimate children that I never see with two different women, and am not allowed to do the thing I want to do most in the world because my attitude caused someone to not want to have anything to do with me, a good meal with "my Lady" wouldn't make me feel happy about where my life was at. I'm aware that many people are in awe of Liam Gallagher but no matter how great anyone says he is in comparison to me, there is nothing that anyone could ever say to make me in any way whatsoever want the life that he has. To be perfectly honest, for me, he does provide a pretty good model of what not to be like. And also if he has achieved this place because he's the same person since high school, that that would just reinforce my position more. |
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Post by sfsorrow on Jan 18, 2018 12:23:59 GMT -5
I don't know. For me, I think it's best to grow as a person not stay stagnant, even if you were a top person. I can't imagine anyone has reached their zenith in their teen years. Liam has changed but I can only hope beyond all hope that I'm not like the way he is today in eight years. Seems a bit vague to me, how and in what way's doesn one "grow". By being affected by the things you learn about the world. |
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Post by tjl2992 on Jan 18, 2018 12:27:38 GMT -5
Cause I didn't buy my usual 30,000 copies. My bad y'all.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Jan 18, 2018 12:30:03 GMT -5
Seems a bit vague to me, how and in what way's doesn one "grow". By being affected by the things you learn about the world. Fair enough. In that case I think you can "grow" and yet still maintain core traits of your charater from when you were young. I don't think many here are in awe of Liam Gallagher, maybe at gig sometimes when he sings but ultimately he's just a bloke, utterly flawed like most of us, utterly human. |
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Post by underneaththesky on Jan 18, 2018 12:30:07 GMT -5
Starting position is more comfortable. you're talking about his past. where he is at the moment is great. 'also if he has achieved this place because he's the same person since high school..'  oh fuck |
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Post by sfsorrow on Jan 18, 2018 12:35:19 GMT -5
By being affected by the things you learn about the world. Fair enough. In that case I think you can "grow" and yet still maintain core traits of your charater from when you were young. I don't think many here are in awe of Liam Gallagher, maybe at gig sometimes when he sings but ultimately he's just a bloke, utterly flawed like most of us, utterly human. Absolutely. I do think it's strange though when his "character" is being revered, particularly in relation to his brother. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jan 18, 2018 12:43:23 GMT -5
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Post by freddy838 on Jan 18, 2018 12:47:08 GMT -5
I get the feeling that Noel himself isn't that convinced of this record. It's definitely been the most low key release he's had, whereas Liam was everywhere for 5 months and had a couple of decent radio-friendlt hits compared to the marmite offering of Holy Mountain.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jan 18, 2018 12:56:06 GMT -5
I get the feeling that Noel himself isn't that convinced of this record. It's definitely been the most low key release he's had, whereas Liam was everywhere for 5 months and had a couple of decent radio-friendlt hits compared to the marmite offering of Holy Mountain. Noel had a window of interest. His album went #1, it hovered around 10 for a month after, Holy Mountain peaked at #31 almost 2 months into its release and he was doing a ton of radio/tv work. He should have had another single prepped for basically now. He still has his tour to prop up sales into the summer months. It does feel though he's taken his foot off the gas since Christmas. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2018 13:09:04 GMT -5
I didn't buy Noel's album in the first week because I've now come to the conclusion that he's a colossal prick and I didn't want him to outsell Liam.
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Jan 18, 2018 13:12:54 GMT -5
That's fucking grim, that...  |
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Post by rockrevival on Jan 18, 2018 13:27:34 GMT -5
Liam's story is inspiring not because of his failed marriages and idiotic behaviour. But because of the risks he took to get where he is. From a regular bloke to a rockstar who is adored by millions in just 2-3 years.
Most of us won't ever achieve that level of fame and fortune.
Its easier to go to college and spend the rest of your life in an office for 50k a year.
He took a risk and he made it very big.
Maybe you wont have 2 failed marriages in the next years. But you also wont be a part of history. So yeah, pretty pointless to act like this.
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Post by sfsorrow on Jan 18, 2018 13:34:01 GMT -5
Liam's story is inspiring not because of his failed marriages and idiotic behaviour. But because of the risks he took to get where he is. From a regular bloke to a rockstar who is adored by millions in just 2-3 years. Most of us won't ever achieve that level of fame and fortune. Its easier to go to college and spend the rest of your life in an office for 50k a year. He took a risk and he made it very big. Maybe you wont have 2 failed marriages in the next years. But you also wont be a part of history. So yeah, pretty pointless to act like this. Well, if you are like me, fame and fortune are not particularly good things to aspire to. I know I certainly don't aspire to them. I don't want to be famous and my politics veer on socialism so I don't think amassing wealth is really anything to take great pride in either. Saying that, I don't see why you have to either be a famous and rich risk-taker or a non-risk taking office worker. There are quite a few options beyond that. I wouldn't particularly be proud of myself if the best thing I could say is that I worked in the same office all my life for 50K a year. I also wouldn't be Liam Gallagher if you paid me 500K a year. |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jan 18, 2018 14:02:28 GMT -5
I get the feeling that Noel himself isn't that convinced of this record. It's definitely been the most low key release he's had, whereas Liam was everywhere for 5 months and had a couple of decent radio-friendlt hits compared to the marmite offering of Holy Mountain. Liam needed to promote the shit out of his album, Noel simply did not havecthat need. That’s the difference, Sonny Jim. |
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Post by Stemot on Jan 18, 2018 14:25:29 GMT -5
I didn't buy it because:
1. I thought the album was honestly pants.
2. Noel told us he doesn't want "Parker Monkeys" listening to his album, so I obliged.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jan 18, 2018 14:58:21 GMT -5
I’m not sure there is a real gulf. If the tally was 290,000 to 85,000 well then yeah. That’s noticeable. That would be like comparing HFB or CY to any Beady Eye album. Since both albums are North of 200,000 is just a sign of strong and healthy interest. Those numbers will grow and grow with tours coming up shortly.
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Jan 18, 2018 15:01:23 GMT -5
Both Gallaghers are appealing to the exact same demographic. First week sales for AYW was 100,000 and for WBTM was 70,000. That means 30,000 people bought AYW but not WBTM. What the actual fuck? How? Wouldn’t you expect fans of Liam to buy Noel’s and vice versa? Especially considering they were released one month apart! Shameful. Fucking parka monkeys, aye. Well I only bought Noel's album and not Liam's (I streamed AYW... once) so I would assume there are other people like me who prefer what one brother (whichever one) does over the other. |
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Post by Plantpot on Jan 18, 2018 15:42:12 GMT -5
I am confident that Liam's massive presence in the twittersphere, whether perceived as good or bad by observers, played a formidable role in As You Were's record sales.
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Post by Headmaster on Jan 18, 2018 17:34:53 GMT -5
Noel being a prick these days with his god mode dickhead persona on and slagging off his old friends doesn't help him.
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Post by Spaceman on Jan 18, 2018 18:56:48 GMT -5
Fuck all this Noel and Liam shit. Can I have everybody singing 'Who the fuck is Andy Bell?'
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Post by birthdaycakes7 on Jan 18, 2018 21:47:49 GMT -5
Other than "Oasis", "Liam Gallagher" I think is the most marketable name associated with Oasis, and on top of that he's signed to a major
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jan 18, 2018 22:03:29 GMT -5
Liam should have named his 2011 band, Liam Gallagher’s Beady Eyes.
Innit.
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