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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Nov 29, 2017 20:56:26 GMT -5
At least he couched in some self-deprecation ("if there's anyone more overrated than me, it's him"). But yeah, not his finest quote. Agreed. But then, NOTHING in this article is his finest quote. Hell, nothing in this entire album cycle is anywhere in the ballpark of his finest quote. For What It's Worth sounding like Adele shouting into a bucket was pretty good, to be fair. But yeah, in the main, Noel's interviews have been shite recently. No one gives two shiny fucks about Bono's drinking habits. His bloke-at-the-bar-telling-tall-stories routine has gotten old.
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Post by knowhaimean on Nov 29, 2017 21:45:20 GMT -5
How about we all just ignore their stupid domestics and instead focus on the fact that Noel is almost certainly going to be a called a "lad" by Paul Joseph Watson over the next six months? I did 🤣 when I first read this but that will be unfortunate. I cannot stand that dude.
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Post by universalgleam on Nov 29, 2017 23:50:15 GMT -5
I'm losing a lot of respect on Noel, I'll always listen to his music but he's acting like a dickhead lately. Every interview he gives he seems more and more bitter, he's just a couple of interviews away of saying "I hope Liam dies". He already said something along the line of "I'll put Liam and Donald Trump in driverless cars and crash them into each other". I'm speechless.
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Post by mape on Nov 30, 2017 1:39:01 GMT -5
The Supersonic documentary changed a lot of the views that people had about Noel and Liam with Noel coming out looking worse, and Liam not looking like the drunk buffoon he was made out to be.
Now with each documentary we see Noel is the bitter one who is holding a grudge because Liam insulted him, while he himself hurls insults at Liam any chance he gets.
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Post by mimmihopps on Nov 30, 2017 1:42:07 GMT -5
The Supersonic documentary changed a lot of the views that people had about Noel and Liam with Noel coming out looking worse, and Liam not looking like the drunk buffoon he was made out to be. Now with each documentary we see Noel is the bitter one who is holding a grudge because Liam insulted him, while he himself hurls insults at Liam any chance he gets. They are both worse.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 30, 2017 1:53:55 GMT -5
The Supersonic documentary changed a lot of the views that people had about Noel and Liam with Noel coming out looking worse, and Liam not looking like the drunk buffoon he was made out to be. Now with each documentary we see Noel is the bitter one who is holding a grudge because Liam insulted him, while he himself hurls insults at Liam any chance he gets. To be fair, since Liam surfaced in early summer to announce and promote AYW, he’s been insulting and attacking Noel left and right. Noel was silent all summer and fall. Now that’s hre promoting MOON he is finally retorting. They both suck. But don’t act like Liam didn’t play a major role in this after a summer of insults. His twitter timeline is a Noel Gallagher punching doll.
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Post by AubreyOasis on Nov 30, 2017 3:37:29 GMT -5
Oh, you are unbelievable: you only think in "teams". With "You all" I mean the ones filling all Noel's interview threads with the same comments again and again. Your opinions are obviously respectable but imo you don't need to repeat them in every thread because then it becomes impossible to discuss about anything else. With "We all" I mean everyone in this forum: do you really think are there still any members who are unaware of your opinions about Noel, and the Liam vs Noel conflict? Believe me, we all know, it's impossible not to know, so no need to insist You're the one who seems to be drawing lines in the sand, especially when you ask that criticism of "your" side stop. You can't declare part of the interview off-limits when Noel himself goes on about how no one owns him and he's 100% responsible for his work (see his CoS interview). He wants this material out there, and people are gonna have opinions on it. "Lines in the sand"? Well, whatever My suggestion is very simple: discuss about Noel and Liam relationship as much as you want, but do it in a single thread so that discussion does not dominate all the other threads. If a new interview or tweet comes up where they insult each other, paste those bits there and continue the discussion there. What's wrong with that ?
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Post by mancraider on Nov 30, 2017 3:50:45 GMT -5
I started to read for the music, and then he fell into his own gaping mouth. People are commenting on what he chose to put out there. You all are saying the exact same things in ALL threads with Noel's interviews. We all already know what you think perfectly well, no need to insist. Now, some people would like to talk about other things: in the interviews there are many interesting bits about the music and the process Noel followed in this record, but when someone tries to comment on that, the post gets buried among tens of posts about the Team Liam vs TeamNoel stupidity. I would kindly suggest to the moderators a separate thread(or even a separate forum) to discuss those issues, so the rest of the threads can get rid of this all the best message boards have a much greater range of discussion of just the thing it was created for. I go on a football one and everything is discussed there, football music sport tv politics. You get the odd moaning minne banging on about how people should only discuss football but you know what, the ones where that is enforced are generally dull and or dead. People aren't doing anything wrong by discussing things Noel has said in an interview on a thread about that interview. There is plenty of chat about music on both sections if that's all that interests you. And yes people repeat themselves, we are creatures of habit. I bet I could tell you pretty much what many posters on here would say about music topics before they say it, but you know what, they are still free to say it. Who cares, it's not compulsory to read or react to posts you don't like.
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Post by spud on Nov 30, 2017 3:50:52 GMT -5
His line about Jeremy Corbyn there has signalled the end of my interest in Noel Gallagher I think.
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Post by andymorris on Nov 30, 2017 4:00:41 GMT -5
maybe I'm a little too young and have a different attitude/mentality towards social media, but I really don't think Liam's tweets were that bad. ( Twitter is the place were ISIS, Trump and the bullies of this world have freedom of speech, i think that says enough. I spend one minute on this thing and all i want is to kill myself or kill someone. It is really, really bad. Liam rising from his own ashes is partly due to twitter, to be honest. Noel would be more popular within the younger wave of fans if he was communicating more on these things. But he doesn't, so he seem distant, not caring... etc As for the quality of his tweets, well... his anti-Noel rants have been embraced by his fanbase and now Noel's the bad guy god knows why. Repeat nonsense all over again and people will believe it. I suppose they need that good against evil to grow as human beings. Just like many people were taking sides between Oasis and Blur in the 90s, which was really really stupid. It's funny because back in the day, both Gallaghers were seen as arrogant, mean and a bit childish. Apart from a few dick moves from Liam (Unplugged etc), they were pretty equal. As for the interviews, some of them have been really interesting, especially when the interviewer is good. the process of making the record has been detailed and explained, more so than "good tune man" from the monkey man.
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Post by janedoe on Nov 30, 2017 4:08:52 GMT -5
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Post by bloodonthetracks on Nov 30, 2017 4:26:41 GMT -5
Nah maybe in a time when families are having to use food banks in this country people are rightly pissed off that a multi millionaire rock star like Noel Gallagher decides to focus his bile on not this disgusting current Tory government but instead lying about the leader of the Labour party. His comments are ignorant, misguided and from someone who is clearly out of touch.
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Post by mancraider on Nov 30, 2017 4:27:39 GMT -5
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Post by AubreyOasis on Nov 30, 2017 4:36:31 GMT -5
You all are saying the exact same things in ALL threads with Noel's interviews. We all already know what you think perfectly well, no need to insist. Now, some people would like to talk about other things: in the interviews there are many interesting bits about the music and the process Noel followed in this record, but when someone tries to comment on that, the post gets buried among tens of posts about the Team Liam vs TeamNoel stupidity. I would kindly suggest to the moderators a separate thread(or even a separate forum) to discuss those issues, so the rest of the threads can get rid of this all the best message boards have a much greater range of discussion of just the thing it was created for. I go on a football one and everything is discussed there, football music sport tv politics. You get the odd moaning minne banging on about how people should only discuss football but you know what, the ones where that is enforced are generally dull and or dead. People aren't doing anything wrong by discussing things Noel has said in an interview on a thread about that interview. There is plenty of chat about music on both sections if that's all that interests you. And yes people repeat themselves, we are creatures of habit. I bet I could tell you pretty much what many posters on here would say about music topics before they say it, but you know what, they are still free to say it. Who cares, it's not compulsory to read or react to posts you don't like. I am not asking people to stop talking about Noel and Liams relationship or any other topic. I am only asking that the discussion should not happen in every thread, because in other case, posts about other topics get buried and it is not possible to talk about anything else. You say that reading those posts is not mandatory, but the fact is that, if you want to talk about other things, you are forced to go through pages of Liam VS Noel stuff in every thread until you find the odd comment about something else buried between 20 other posts. That requires a lot of time you usually don't have. And, to make things worse, people eventually stops posting about those other topics because nobody will find/read your posts anyway. And then the forum becomes useless for the people interested in those other topics instead of the Noel vs Liam stuff. And then they(we) will eventually leave or at least will come less often and only for news because, what's the point ?. So I do not think this is good at all for the forum
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Post by mimmihopps on Nov 30, 2017 4:40:19 GMT -5
I started to read for the music, and then he fell into his own gaping mouth. People are commenting on what he chose to put out there. You all are saying the exact same things in ALL threads with Noel's interviews. We all already know what you think perfectly well, no need to insist. Now, some people would like to talk about other things: in the interviews there are many interesting bits about the music and the process Noel followed in this record, but when someone tries to comment on that, the post gets buried among tens of posts about the Team Liam vs TeamNoel stupidity. I would kindly suggest to the moderators a separate thread(or even a separate forum) to discuss those issues, so the rest of the threads can get rid of this We have Liam board and NGHFB board and the We, moderators are doing our best to keep this place clean, yet same drama (Liam vs Noel/Noel vs Liam) all over again and again, day in and day out. Of course people can discuss their thoughts, that's what a forum for, but they should be able to deal with other opinion without insulting each other. You all are saying the exact same things in ALL threads with Noel's interviews. We all already know what you think perfectly well, no need to insist. Now, some people would like to talk about other things: in the interviews there are many interesting bits about the music and the process Noel followed in this record, but when someone tries to comment on that, the post gets buried among tens of posts about the Team Liam vs TeamNoel stupidity. I would kindly suggest to the moderators a separate thread(or even a separate forum) to discuss those issues, so the rest of the threads can get rid of this all the best message boards have a much greater range of discussion of just the thing it was created for. I go on a football one and everything is discussed there, football music sport tv politics. You get the odd moaning minne banging on about how people should only discuss football but you know what, the ones where that is enforced are generally dull and or dead. People aren't doing anything wrong by discussing things Noel has said in an interview on a thread about that interview. There is plenty of chat about music on both sections if that's all that interests you. And yes people repeat themselves, we are creatures of habit. I bet I could tell you pretty much what many posters on here would say about music topics before they say it, but you know what, they are still free to say it. Who cares, it's not compulsory to read or react to posts you don't like. Of course they/We are free to say what they/We think, but I DO care for this forum and it'll be a dead shame to see it goes down by stupid fights.
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Post by mancraider on Nov 30, 2017 4:58:20 GMT -5
You all are saying the exact same things in ALL threads with Noel's interviews. We all already know what you think perfectly well, no need to insist. Now, some people would like to talk about other things: in the interviews there are many interesting bits about the music and the process Noel followed in this record, but when someone tries to comment on that, the post gets buried among tens of posts about the Team Liam vs TeamNoel stupidity. I would kindly suggest to the moderators a separate thread(or even a separate forum) to discuss those issues, so the rest of the threads can get rid of this We have Liam board and NGHFB board and the We, moderators are doing our best to keep this place clean, yet same drama (Liam vs Noel/Noel vs Liam) all over again and again, day in and day out. Of course people can discuss their thoughts, that's what a forum for, but they should be able to deal with other opinion without insulting each other. all the best message boards have a much greater range of discussion of just the thing it was created for. I go on a football one and everything is discussed there, football music sport tv politics. You get the odd moaning minne banging on about how people should only discuss football but you know what, the ones where that is enforced are generally dull and or dead. People aren't doing anything wrong by discussing things Noel has said in an interview on a thread about that interview. There is plenty of chat about music on both sections if that's all that interests you. And yes people repeat themselves, we are creatures of habit. I bet I could tell you pretty much what many posters on here would say about music topics before they say it, but you know what, they are still free to say it. Who cares, it's not compulsory to read or react to posts you don't like. Of course they/We are free to say what they/We think, but I DO care for this forum and it'll be a dead shame to see it goes down by stupid fights. well yes when it breaks down to fights and name calling then it's fair to act, as you do, and I'm aware that's a thankless task for you but that's not what the general criticism is on here. It's posters trying to dictate what subjects are open to discussion and what aren't. The board is big enough to accommodate all but some subjects seem to be considered less worthy. The thing is for all the whinging about non music chat, when it's relevant, ie around album releases and gigs then the board is full of music chat but when it's press stuff when they both say stupid stuff then some people want to talk about that and I get why it causes conflict when they are continually told that it isn't appropriate to talk about it. Anyway have a good day, I've gotta get some work done here. Best stop repeating myself or I'll get my wrist slapped 😆.
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Post by AubreyOasis on Nov 30, 2017 5:18:28 GMT -5
We have Liam board and NGHFB board and the We, moderators are doing our best to keep this place clean, yet same drama (Liam vs Noel/Noel vs Liam) all over again and again, day in and day out. Of course people can discuss their thoughts, that's what a forum for, but they should be able to deal with other opinion without insulting each other. Of course they/We are free to say what they/We think, but I DO care for this forum and it'll be a dead shame to see it goes down by stupid fights. well yes when it breaks down to fights and name calling then it's fair to act, as you do, and I'm aware that's a thankless task for you but that's not what the general criticism is on here. It's posters trying to dictate what subjects are open to discussion and what aren't. The board is big enough to accommodate all but some subjects seem to be considered less worthy. The thing is for all the whinging about non music chat, when it's relevant, ie around album releases and gigs then the board is full of music chat but when it's press stuff when they both say stupid stuff then some people want to talk about that and I get why it causes conflict when they are continually told that it isn't appropriate to talk about it. Anyway have a good day, I've gotta get some work done here. Best stop repeating myself or I'll get my wrist slapped 😆. I have already explained that I am not asking to stop talking about anything, only to avoid one topic to dominate every thread, to facilitate discussion also about other topics. But, well, anyway, have a good day you too. Let's just let it go
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Post by mancraider on Nov 30, 2017 5:21:50 GMT -5
all the best message boards have a much greater range of discussion of just the thing it was created for. I go on a football one and everything is discussed there, football music sport tv politics. You get the odd moaning minne banging on about how people should only discuss football but you know what, the ones where that is enforced are generally dull and or dead. People aren't doing anything wrong by discussing things Noel has said in an interview on a thread about that interview. There is plenty of chat about music on both sections if that's all that interests you. And yes people repeat themselves, we are creatures of habit. I bet I could tell you pretty much what many posters on here would say about music topics before they say it, but you know what, they are still free to say it. Who cares, it's not compulsory to read or react to posts you don't like. I am not asking people to stop talking about Noel and Liams relationship or any other topic. I am only asking that the discussion should not happen in every thread, because in other case, posts about other topics get buried and it is not possible to talk about anything else. You say that reading those posts is not mandatory, but the fact is that, if you want to talk about other things, you are forced to go through pages of Liam VS Noel stuff in every thread until you find the odd comment about something else buried between 20 other posts. That requires a lot of time you usually don't have. And, to make things worse, people eventually stops posting about those other topics because nobody will find/read your posts anyway. And then the forum becomes useless for the people interested in those other topics instead of the Noel vs Liam stuff. And then they(we) will eventually leave or at least will come less often and only for news because, what's the point ?. So I do not think this is good at all for the forum I agree to an extent, in that specific music review threads and such then there should be able effort to keep those threads on topic and actually in my view there is. The mods police those threads quite well generally but what you've suggested here is that threads about an interview should be restricted to parts of the interview that you deem suitable for discussion. I'm sorry but I don't agree with you on that. I don't think anyone really cares about the Noel/Liam too much, it's been that way since the 90s, but this corbyn stuff from Noel will do him far more damage if he keeps it up and I think it is very relevant and should be discussed in the right place (and I don't mean another forum as you helpfully suggest). I remember the 80s when some celebrities came out in support of the Tories in the press and it's never been forgotten to this day. To attack corbyn who is, rightly or wrongly seen as a champion of the working class by many who would be fans of Noel and to become the darling of the right wing press seems unnecessary to me and I think he would be better saying nothing. But if he wants to put his views out there then it's his right to do so, but you can bet there are a lot of people that will have an opinion on it.
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Post by rollagher on Nov 30, 2017 5:24:19 GMT -5
Could it be that no one is interested in which flute driven french pop song he had listened to when ceativity hit him, but that eteyone is interested in him smashing his brother and former bandmate and that is the main fuel that drives his PR campaign? Without Liam-bashing no headline. His whole solo career PR based on it. So it's the same for Liam. "Because we need each other, we believe in hurt one another!" Sad but necessary!
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Post by ladwithnoteeth on Nov 30, 2017 5:28:38 GMT -5
I'm a bit shocked to read he hates Brian Wilson. Is it the first time he mentions this ? How we can he dislike one of the best composer of its time ??
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Post by mossy on Nov 30, 2017 5:43:55 GMT -5
Hey people, arguing about what the Gallagher brothers say on an Internet forum - is that really the best use of your time? Everyone, consider putting down your phone and doing something else instead. Focus on your job. Get working on that cure for cancer. Build a cool app. Or spend longer reading your kids a bedtime story. Call an old friend. Or just spend an hour pleasuring yourself.
The world will be a slightly better place for it.
Peace & Hugs.
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Post by mancraider on Nov 30, 2017 5:48:38 GMT -5
Hey people, arguing about what the Gallagher brothers say on an Internet forum - is that really the best use of your time? Everyone, consider putting down your phone and doing something else instead. Focus on your job. Get working on that cure for cancer. Build a cool app. Or spend longer reading your kids a bedtime story. Call an old friend. Or just spend an hour pleasuring yourself. The world will be a slightly better place for it. Peace & Hugs. X tbf the main point of using this forum for me is to avoid having to do my job 😎.
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Post by AdidasNG72 on Nov 30, 2017 7:40:20 GMT -5
I am not asking people to stop talking about Noel and Liams relationship or any other topic. I am only asking that the discussion should not happen in every thread, because in other case, posts about other topics get buried and it is not possible to talk about anything else. You say that reading those posts is not mandatory, but the fact is that, if you want to talk about other things, you are forced to go through pages of Liam VS Noel stuff in every thread until you find the odd comment about something else buried between 20 other posts. That requires a lot of time you usually don't have. And, to make things worse, people eventually stops posting about those other topics because nobody will find/read your posts anyway. And then the forum becomes useless for the people interested in those other topics instead of the Noel vs Liam stuff. And then they(we) will eventually leave or at least will come less often and only for news because, what's the point ?. So I do not think this is good at all for the forum I remember the 80s when some celebrities came out in support of the Tories in the press and it's never been forgotten to this day. To attack corbyn who is, rightly or wrongly seen as a champion of the working class by many who would be fans of Noel and to become the darling of the right wing press seems unnecessary to me and I think he would be better saying nothing. But if he wants to put his views out there then it's his right to do so, but you can bet there are a lot of people that will have an opinion on it. Noel hasn't come out in support of the Tories though. And is he a darling of the right wing press more than the left wing press?
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Nov 30, 2017 7:43:58 GMT -5
*Peeks into thread*
Yeah, nope.
*Leaves*
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Post by joladella on Nov 30, 2017 7:53:20 GMT -5
I remember the 80s when some celebrities came out in support of the Tories in the press and it's never been forgotten to this day. To attack corbyn who is, rightly or wrongly seen as a champion of the working class by many who would be fans of Noel and to become the darling of the right wing press seems unnecessary to me and I think he would be better saying nothing. But if he wants to put his views out there then it's his right to do so, but you can bet there are a lot of people that will have an opinion on it. Noel hasn't come out in support of the Tories though. And is he a darling of the right wing press more than the left wing press? He's certainly attracting odd admirers ...
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