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Post by oasisserbia on Oct 8, 2019 19:56:13 GMT -5
Ofc mate, that is just my opinion and how I feel about that album now, I am not saying that I am right or wrong. Tranquility Base fits much better with who I am now, when I wear headphones while walking, TBHC fits with my walking pace and the way that I see the world around me just like DM was when I was 19. I am not blind follower of Gallagher brothers, never was and never pretended. I am huge, huge fan of DM, WTSMG and TM and few more songs from other albums. But that 94-96 period is more important to me than any era of any other band. Style, clothes, walk, attitude, voice, sound, melodies, way of life... I've never subscribed to be a massive fan of Alright Now or Holy Mountain, I am 27 and I bet 27 years old Liam and Noel would also make fun of songs like those. Call me parka monkey or whatever you want but I still like more even songs like Universal Gleam, they at least sound honest and you can feel that Liam wrote them with his heart. Half of WMWN sounds like Liam covering Lily Allen's and Robbie's songs. Gone, One Of Us, Once, Shockwave, River are good or ok, I can tolerate even WMWN and Now That I've Found You. My opinion is that I can tolerate song like Now That I've Found You if it is the worst and cheesiest song on the album but horror only begins after that song and it last until last two songs. If you make pizza and you don't that have really good cheese, it can't be perfect pizza but it still can be very good. But when we talk about WMWN, half of the ingredients are shit and then when you are eating, whole pizza is shit, it doesn't matter that other half of the ingredients are good, general taste is just shit. Wait if you were 19 while listening to DM in 94, wouldn't you be mid 40's? Also during that 94-96 period you love so much you only would have been a few years old. Either way, I don't understand how you can't like both. I am 21 and adore Tranquility Base, think it is a great album to chill out to and definitely the album that was released in the past 5 years that I go back to most BUT I think WMWN is also great and has a got a lot of good tunes on it, who cares who wrote it? Each to their own but I can't for the life of me see why you would want him to release dross like Universal Gleam over any of this, IMO that is the worst song since he went solo. I think some people are swayed by the writing credits and think 'oh that doesn't sound like Liam', when a lot of time they just think that in retrospect. I was 19 and listening to DM, there are kids today who are 19 and listening to DM, it wasn't in 94. I love 94-96 era of Oasis, I wasn't fan of Oasis then, there is Youtube you know, albums, photos... You like TBHC and WMWN, I only like TBHC, what is so hard to understand? Why should I like both if you do? I am not big fan of Universal Gleam but I said that EVEN Universal Gleam is still better then many on songs on WMWN. I don't care who writes the songs but I don't think that these songwriters are bringing any good to Liam. To me, now it seems like Liam is just too lazy to write 10 or 11 or 12 songs and he writes few and they write the rest. I didn't imagine it like that, they supposed to bring extra quality, not just helping him to have enough songs to release an album. Liam impersonating Lennon when he is writing songs was too much many times and not very good. But now we have people who are impersonating Liam's songwriting and Liam's songwriting is impersonation of Lennon's songwriting. And that is actually why many songs sounds like Robbie Williams because that is exactly what Robbie's songwriters tried to do many times - to write songs like Gallaghers who are trying to write songs like Beatles. I don't care that some songs don't sound like Liam, actually that is exactly what I want. The thing is that they sound like bad imitations of Gallaghers or Lennon's or Harrison's songs. I think that Liam is at least writing from his heart and these guys are writing what they think that Liam would like and what they think that he can sell. Copying Beatles songs it's not as easy as some might think. Just because someone learned few tricks, that doesn't mean his song sounds even slightly close to Beatles. But at least Liam and Noel were using their heart, passion and talent while doing that.
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Post by Zingbot on Oct 8, 2019 20:22:36 GMT -5
Shockwave is the only really bad song on the record. I kinda like the river. Don't get the fuss around One Of Us. Once is a bit boring.
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Oct 8, 2019 20:28:40 GMT -5
I like every song on WMWN, including bonus. Glimmer is the worst at a 3 or 4/10
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Post by rickypaglais on Oct 9, 2019 1:14:45 GMT -5
rickypaglaisRead that part about pizza. How would you rate the movie that is great for first hour and then its complete shit in next hour? Would you say, ok, first part is 9/10 and second part is 3/10, so, 9+3 is 12 and 12:2 is 6 so I will give 6 to this movie... When I watch movie like that, I feel angry after watching it, I think that it' s complete shit and I don't ever want to watch it again. This is thread about WMWN album, not about any particular song from that album. Maybe I just have different different perception of what albums are and what they supposed to be. That's why I always say that Be Here Now is shit and people get mad at me, but I just can't listen that album from start to finish just like I can't and I won't listen WMWN ever again from start to finish. I don't know dude, I'm capable of skipping songs I'm not keen on without much issue
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Post by rickypaglais on Oct 9, 2019 1:15:40 GMT -5
Once, Shockwave, Halo, Be Still and The River are completely rubbish. Haven't you said this about 300 times? Don't you get bored?
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Post by rickypaglais on Oct 9, 2019 1:16:21 GMT -5
How can a person give an album 1/10 but also say some of the songs are very good? Am I losing the plot, or is that just complete nonsense? Who writes this shit? What the fuck is the internet any more? Why me, why not? How can a person give an album 10/10 when 3 songs are decent and the rest is mediocre? Am I losing the plot, or is that just complete nonsense? Who writes this shit? What the fuck is the internet any more? Why me, why not? I agree, how can they? Not that I've seen anyone do that
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Post by cedomil on Oct 9, 2019 2:10:44 GMT -5
...I don't know dude, I'm capable of skipping songs I'm not keen on without much issue Tbh, the only Oasis album I listened without skipping was WTSMG ... and The Masterplan too (though it was more of a compilation). Never thought of BHN as a shit because it had 4 absolutely outstanding tracks and some fillers. SOTSOG too...even so much hated HC brought us LBL, SCYHO and BOTDC! I have my compilation of 50-60 Oasis mp3 tracks that I mostly listen, but from time to time I play full albums too and never have problems with filler tracks...sometimes they give me a really nice surprise. Having said that... I've yet to find the skipping material on WMWN. Even Glimmer is kinda intro to Once demo which is a real gem. Yes, Robbie W. MAY have recorded it - but...he didn't. And even if he did, I can't stand his voice even if he sang Strawberry Fields.... At the end of the day, everything comes down to a personal taste. I like it, someone else don't, cool. And yes, my kid (14 this month, little Liam on my avatar 😃) is absolutely crazy about Once, One Of Us, WMWN, Halo, The River, Alright Now, Gone... (Never was into any kind of Techno/Disco, mainstream Pop... Put it all down to a good education 😜)
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Post by mimmihopps on Oct 9, 2019 3:55:12 GMT -5
Once, Shockwave, Halo, Be Still and The River are completely rubbish. Alright. We heard your opinion and you don't have to repeat it over and over. When you only keep posting a comment like that in this thread, we can hardly believe that you're not trolling. Move on please. Thanks.
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Post by vespa on Oct 9, 2019 9:03:08 GMT -5
Where’s the shockwave video gone ?
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Post by Rolo on Oct 9, 2019 9:24:19 GMT -5
Sick of coming in to threads and seeing the same fucking drivel being posted over and over again by certain members. You got your point across about 200 posts a go, there is no need to repeat your negativity over and over.
I appreciate that not everyone has to like the album, everyone has their opinion and that is what your entitled to but stop fucking going on, it's so so boring. Go and discuss an album you like instead maybe?
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Post by jh on Oct 9, 2019 10:05:27 GMT -5
Sick of coming in to threads and seeing the same fucking drivel being posted over and over again by certain members. You got your point across about 200 posts a go, there is no need to repeat your negativity over and over. I appreciate that not everyone has to like the album, everyone has their opinion and that is what your entitled to but stop fucking going on, it's so so boring. Go and discuss an album you like instead maybe? Agreed!! I don't really see why certain members...are in fact members of this forum. The little snail thing just seems to come on to the Liam threads to stoke up arguements. This whole forum has become way more about attacking other members than it ever used to be or even should be FFS. IF YOU DON'T LIKE LIAM OR HIS MUSIC...LEAVE....SIMPLE.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2019 10:08:29 GMT -5
Where’s the shockwave video gone ? HEY? FIFY
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Post by blkc on Oct 9, 2019 13:27:33 GMT -5
Agreed!! I don't really see why certain members...are in fact members of this forum. The little snail thing just seems to come on to the Liam threads to stoke up arguements. This whole forum has become way more about attacking other members than it ever used to be or even should be FFS. IF YOU DON'T LIKE LIAM OR HIS MUSIC...LEAVE....SIMPLE. I agree with what was said, but not sure about the "like the music or leave" ^^ I don't like what Liam is doing at the moment so I should go ? You don't have to send people away I think, I don't like WMWN but I'm not trolling, I've said it but didn't go far in my criticism and didn't even go into any details about it because I don't see the point of annoying people who enjoy it. End of story ^^ Problem here isn't liking Liam music or not, and it's not specific to Liam, the same issue happens on the Noel's forum too Problem is individuals that can't accept different opinions and think they own "the truth". And people who just like trolling, but there'll always be trolls ^^ What would be the point of a forum where everybody thinks the same way ?
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Post by walrus91 on Oct 9, 2019 13:47:59 GMT -5
How can a person give an album 1/10 but also say some of the songs are very good? Am I losing the plot, or is that just complete nonsense? Who writes this shit? What the fuck is the internet any more? Why me, why not? How can a person give an album 10/10 when 3 songs are decent and the rest is mediocre? Am I losing the plot, or is that just complete nonsense? Who writes this shit? What the fuck is the internet any more? Why me, why not? I like all the songs but 2 .. which is more than I can say about 4 of the Oasis albums. Noel im.assuming this is you .. please stop writing bad disco club music and start writing proper albums like WMWN
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Post by freddy838 on Oct 9, 2019 14:17:37 GMT -5
Agreed!! I don't really see why certain members...are in fact members of this forum. The little snail thing just seems to come on to the Liam threads to stoke up arguements. This whole forum has become way more about attacking other members than it ever used to be or even should be FFS. IF YOU DON'T LIKE LIAM OR HIS MUSIC...LEAVE....SIMPLE. I agree with what was said, but not sure about the "like the music or leave" ^^ I don't like what Liam is doing at the moment so I should go ? You don't have to send people away I think, I don't like WMWN but I'm not trolling, I've said it but didn't go far in my criticism and didn't even go into any details about it because I don't see the point of annoying people who enjoy it. End of story ^^ Problem here isn't liking Liam music or not, and it's not specific to Liam, the same issue happens on the Noel's forum too Problem is individuals that can't accept different opinions and think they own "the truth". And people who just like trolling, but there'll always be trolls ^^ What would be the point of a forum where everybody thinks the same way ? I'd say it's more the spamming from the same users that's annoying. I get the impression that does happen a lot less on the Noel board. Nothing wrong with not liking the music.
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Post by jh on Oct 9, 2019 14:40:42 GMT -5
Agreed!! I don't really see why certain members...are in fact members of this forum. The little snail thing just seems to come on to the Liam threads to stoke up arguements. This whole forum has become way more about attacking other members than it ever used to be or even should be FFS. IF YOU DON'T LIKE LIAM OR HIS MUSIC...LEAVE....SIMPLE. I agree with what was said, but not sure about the "like the music or leave" ^^ I don't like what Liam is doing at the moment so I should go ? You don't have to send people away I think, I don't like WMWN but I'm not trolling, I've said it but didn't go far in my criticism and didn't even go into any details about it because I don't see the point of annoying people who enjoy it. End of story ^^ Problem here isn't liking Liam music or not, and it's not specific to Liam, the same issue happens on the Noel's forum too Problem is individuals that can't accept different opinions and think they own "the truth". And people who just like trolling, but there'll always be trolls ^^ What would be the point of a forum where everybody thinks the same way ? Yawn - ok here we go AGAIN - what I am stating perhaps in a simplistic manner previously, to which in hindsight was rather broad...is that why the fuck do certain people consistently login to this site to purely state how shite they think Liam's stuff is, how shite he know sounds etc etc etc... I totally understand people have differing views and not all music is to everyone's taste. Point being I don't get why certain people even bother with the forum as they so vehemently wish to state at every given opportunity how the subject of said forum is shite.
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Post by blkc on Oct 9, 2019 14:44:12 GMT -5
I'd say it's more the spamming from the same users that's annoying. I get the impression that does happen a lot less on the Noel board. Nothing wrong with not liking the music. Oh yes, I agree that repeating again and again the same critics or opinions is really annoying, if not stupid at some point ^^ I don't think it happens less on Noel's board, it's just that there's not as much activity in it compared to Liam's board these days. But Noel is trolled and criticized very hard too, and I'm not even talking about youtube, I've seen really insane things recently about him ^^ Sorry if I misunderstood what was said then I really thought conclusion was something like "Like the music or GTFO"
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Post by blkc on Oct 9, 2019 14:50:28 GMT -5
Yawn - ok here we go AGAIN - what I am stating perhaps in a simplistic manner previously, to which in hindsight was rather broad...is that why the fuck do certain people consistently login to this site to purely state how shite they think Liam's stuff is, how shite he know sounds etc etc etc... I totally understand people have differing views and not all music is to everyone's taste. Point being I don't get why certain people even bother with the forum as they so vehemently wish to state at every given opportunity how the subject of said forum is shite. I've just answered to another person about this and said I agreed with most of what you said about repeating critics and saying things are shit, just didn't get right the part where you were saying " IF YOU DON'T LIKE LIAM OR HIS MUSIC...LEAVE....SIMPLE." ^^ Again sorry for misunderstanding
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Post by oasis6 on Oct 9, 2019 19:10:36 GMT -5
If I say the album is shite and 1/10, can i get LlAM to like my post?
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Post by ossieoss30 on Oct 9, 2019 19:59:33 GMT -5
I frickin’ love this album and me lovely girlfriend has bought us tickets to go and see the lad live. Can’t frickin’ wait. Moaners gonna moan. It’s a top album. Much love and light x
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Post by LlAM on Oct 9, 2019 20:26:53 GMT -5
If I say the album is shite and 1/10, can i get LlAM to like my post? I disagree, I rate the album 5/10 so far. But I'm thinking the album as a whole will drop overtime, whilst 2-4 of the songs might grow stronger, so yeah 5/10. (As a reference, I rated Who Built The Moon 5,5/10 and the EPs possibly 7/10 although there hasn't been a unified rating thread yet - perhaps Beady’s Here Now can make one when EP#3 is released). Standout tracks: One Of Us Why Me? Why Not Be Still The River Invisible Sun What are your thoughts?
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Oct 9, 2019 21:16:10 GMT -5
If I say the album is shite and 1/10, can i get LlAM to like my post? I disagree, I rate the album 5/10 so far. But I'm thinking the album as a whole will drop overtime, whilst 2-4 of the songs might grow stronger, so yeah 5/10. (As a reference, I rated Who Built The Moon 5,5/10 and the EPs possibly 7/10 although there hasn't been a unified rating thread yet - perhaps Beady’s Here Now can make one when EP#3 is released). Standout tracks: One Of Us Why Me? Why Not Be Still The River Invisible Sun What are your thoughts? So many people loathe Invisible Sun, but love the rest; I find it so interesting that someone who gives it a a bad rating like 5/10 picks that as among the standout.
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Post by The Escapist on Oct 9, 2019 23:07:09 GMT -5
Invisible Sun and One of Us are the only songs on it I'm going to really go back to, in all honesty.
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Post by LlAM on Oct 10, 2019 1:26:51 GMT -5
I disagree, I rate the album 5/10 so far. But I'm thinking the album as a whole will drop overtime, whilst 2-4 of the songs might grow stronger, so yeah 5/10. (As a reference, I rated Who Built The Moon 5,5/10 and the EPs possibly 7/10 although there hasn't been a unified rating thread yet - perhaps Beady’s Here Now can make one when EP#3 is released). Standout tracks: One Of Us Why Me? Why Not Be Still The River Invisible Sun What are your thoughts? So many people loathe Invisible Sun, but love the rest; I find it so interesting that someone who gives it a a bad rating like 5/10 picks that as among the standout. Thanks 🙂 I think it's proper Liam attitude mustering up that Rock'n'roll temper and the backing track is edgy and menacing, it's a nice contrast to the otherwise soft album. I wish he did more stuff like this, but probably his label prefer him to be more commercial and mainstream. P.S. 5/10 isn't a bad rating, in fact it's a bang average rating 😂
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Post by jh on Oct 10, 2019 3:49:16 GMT -5
Yawn - ok here we go AGAIN - what I am stating perhaps in a simplistic manner previously, to which in hindsight was rather broad...is that why the fuck do certain people consistently login to this site to purely state how shite they think Liam's stuff is, how shite he know sounds etc etc etc... I totally understand people have differing views and not all music is to everyone's taste. Point being I don't get why certain people even bother with the forum as they so vehemently wish to state at every given opportunity how the subject of said forum is shite. I've just answered to another person about this and said I agreed with most of what you said about repeating critics and saying things are shit, just didn't get right the part where you were saying " IF YOU DON'T LIKE LIAM OR HIS MUSIC...LEAVE....SIMPLE." ^^ Again sorry for misunderstanding No problems mate. This whole forum is becoming rather toxic at the moment.
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