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Post by andymorris on Jun 6, 2023 2:54:02 GMT -5
Shocking numbers. No wonders gig tickets are so expensive now. First 3 albums are great rock n roll records. But that was 25 years ago. Now Grohl is just grawling in a mic in a studio to sell his gigantic money machine tours. You could be describing Oasis here. Whether you like Noel’s recent experiments or not, you have to give him credit for trying to switch things up a bit. Totally. Well Grohl tried an "experimental" approach with their 2005 record In your Honor, with the second disc being acoustic, and its good one. The other side, is more FF going in the wrong direction. It was interesting and sold well, dont know why they just abandonned the risky approach. I guess its just easier. You make ton of money releasing 11 song you can write in your sleep. Why bother ? Shocking numbers. No wonders gig tickets are so expensive now. First 3 albums are great rock n roll records. But that was 25 years ago. Now Grohl is just grawling in a mic in a studio to sell his gigantic money machine tours. I´m not a fan of Foo Fighters but i really enjoy their first records. The last two albums are so bad but, hey, this last one is really good. If you enjoyed their 90´s check this new one. Taylor and dave´s mum loss, with dave on drums again, have led to a sincere and emotive record with some of their best songs in the last twenty years I tried it but stopped after 3 or 4 tracks. Maybe i'll get back to it later but didn't hear much differences to be honest. |
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Post by neila83 on Jun 6, 2023 4:22:14 GMT -5
I really believe in 2-3 years you could top the charts with like 800 albums sold. The problem is strategic i think. Records are too expensive. they're betting on the fanbase to buy over the top bundles two or three times. Maybe some will, but i wont, at this point it's just become too ridiculous. They should just release a simple CD version for 5 or 7 or even 9 dollars, pounds, euros or whatever and see what happens. Partner with streaming services where you get a CD version for a few more quids each months. or a 30% off or something. There's other ways than just milking the die hard fans. 19 euros for a simple 2 CD version, no thank you F you. I can wait 6 months, stream it and get it for 9 then. What I don't get, is why don't they release the deluxe editions in physical format only? Stream the basic album, but if you want all the bonus material, go and bloody buy it. Do the streaming services really have such a hold over the industry that they are essentially forced to release absolutely everything to them? I know you'd be relying on an industry wide agreement to do it which would be very hard to get, but it seems to me something has to be done to provide a way for artists to make money from selling their work. It is an absolute disgrace what has happened to the music industry and I'm astonished it just seems to have been accepted that the vast majority of profit has been transferred from artists to streaming services with no connection whatsoever to creating the work. (OK I'm aware for a lot of artists it was the record labels raking the profits before, but that's still a preferable option to streaming services, I'm sure artists saw a good deal more of it). It's alright if you're a legacy act from pre-streaming who made their money and can still pull big crowds, but I have no idea how new bands survive these days. |
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Post by mossy on Jun 6, 2023 4:46:37 GMT -5
The problem is strategic i think. Records are too expensive. they're betting on the fanbase to buy over the top bundles two or three times. Maybe some will, but i wont, at this point it's just become too ridiculous. They should just release a simple CD version for 5 or 7 or even 9 dollars, pounds, euros or whatever and see what happens. Partner with streaming services where you get a CD version for a few more quids each months. or a 30% off or something. There's other ways than just milking the die hard fans. 19 euros for a simple 2 CD version, no thank you F you. I can wait 6 months, stream it and get it for 9 then. What I don't get, is why don't they release the deluxe editions in physical format only? Stream the basic album, but if you want all the bonus material, go and bloody buy it. Do the streaming services really have such a hold over the industry that they are essentially forced to release absolutely everything to them? I know you'd be relying on an industry wide agreement to do it which would be very hard to get, but it seems to me something has to be done to provide a way for artists to make money from selling their work. It is an absolute disgrace what has happened to the music industry and I'm astonished it just seems to have been accepted that the vast majority of profit has been transferred from artists to streaming services with no connection whatsoever to creating the work. (OK I'm aware for a lot of artists it was the record labels raking the profits before, but that's still a preferable option to streaming services, I'm sure artists saw a good deal more of it). It's alright if you're a legacy act from pre-streaming who made their money and can still pull big crowds, but I have no idea how new bands survive these days. The Coral kinda did that with their last album. The special vinyl version had a bonus EP that wasn’t put on streaming. They’re releasing two albums this year and one of them won’t be on streaming at all. Go on The Coral, stick it to the man! Putting bonus material on Spotify actually harms your chart performance. The Official Charts company only counts the top 12 streamed tracks on an album - so if you have more than 12 tracks you’re watering down your chart-eligible streams. 💿 |
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Post by bt95 on Jun 6, 2023 5:02:14 GMT -5
Think Of A Number really is exceptional.
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Post by bt95 on Jun 6, 2023 5:03:03 GMT -5
And yeah, on the album sales thing, the record companies and streaming services are the ones to blame.
Unfortunately they've monopolised the market and we all play our part.
It's ridiculous, and it's why you end up with half the album released as 'singles' before its even dropped.
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Post by LlAM on Jun 6, 2023 5:11:00 GMT -5
Anyone else loving the BEEP at 1:29 on Love Is A Rich Man?
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Post by seanrulesrh on Jun 6, 2023 5:17:17 GMT -5
And yeah, on the album sales thing, the record companies and streaming services are the ones to blame. Unfortunately they've monopolised the market and we all play our part. It's ridiculous, and it's why you end up with half the album released as 'singles' before its even dropped. Plus the artist don't make money with streaming platforms. At least not as much. Not that the benefit from physical copies is high, but there's a huge difference. Pat Carney from The Black Keys had a public drama with Spotify because of it, but nowadays it's the only way to spread your music worldwide. And because of it b-sides are no longer a thing. It's such a shame, because we used to get LOADS of content during a new album cycle when Spotify wasn't there |
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Post by andymorris on Jun 6, 2023 5:18:57 GMT -5
The problem is strategic i think. Records are too expensive. they're betting on the fanbase to buy over the top bundles two or three times. Maybe some will, but i wont, at this point it's just become too ridiculous. They should just release a simple CD version for 5 or 7 or even 9 dollars, pounds, euros or whatever and see what happens. Partner with streaming services where you get a CD version for a few more quids each months. or a 30% off or something. There's other ways than just milking the die hard fans. 19 euros for a simple 2 CD version, no thank you F you. I can wait 6 months, stream it and get it for 9 then. What I don't get, is why don't they release the deluxe editions in physical format only? Stream the basic album, but if you want all the bonus material, go and bloody buy it. Do the streaming services really have such a hold over the industry that they are essentially forced to release absolutely everything to them? I know you'd be relying on an industry wide agreement to do it which would be very hard to get, but it seems to me something has to be done to provide a way for artists to make money from selling their work. It is an absolute disgrace what has happened to the music industry and I'm astonished it just seems to have been accepted that the vast majority of profit has been transferred from artists to streaming services with no connection whatsoever to creating the work. (OK I'm aware for a lot of artists it was the record labels raking the profits before, but that's still a preferable option to streaming services, I'm sure artists saw a good deal more of it). It's alright if you're a legacy act from pre-streaming who made their money and can still pull big crowds, but I have no idea how new bands survive these days. Well they "survive" on touring, especially festivals. Tickets for smaller bands have sky rocketed too. I use to go see bands for 15 euros up to 2012 they are now 35 (even before covid) or more... As for streaming services being omnipotent, I dont know. I think record labels are just lazy and release everything online just to have big streaming numbers. The industry is not known for innovation. They have been against every innovation ever made in music. Now the strategy of record labels is clear: expensive bundles for aging artist + tickets price pumped up. For new "big" artists, streaming to the max on a few tracks and over the top prices for concerts. And cheap merchandise sold for a big margin. And of course, licensing. Even I who used to buy like every deluxe edition of my favorites bands, these days I dont. I stream because the quality is good, and for the ones i really want, i wait 6 months, a year and then buy them for cheap. I havent bought any of the Beatles reissue for instance, yet i listen to them like all the time. Lossless format is good enough. For Noel, i'm not paying 20 euros for an half arsed second disc containing mostly remixes and instrumentals. I mean, talk about a ripp off. It should be free next to the main disc at a reasonable price. Maybe more people would buy it. |
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Post by oasispanic on Jun 6, 2023 5:50:03 GMT -5
And yeah, on the album sales thing, the record companies and streaming services are the ones to blame. Unfortunately they've monopolised the market and we all play our part. It's ridiculous, and it's why you end up with half the album released as 'singles' before its even dropped. Plus the artist don't make money with streaming platforms. At least not as much. Not that the benefit from physical copies is high, but there's a huge difference. Pat Carney from The Black Keys had a public drama with Spotify because of it, but nowadays it's the only way to spread your music worldwide. And because of it b-sides are no longer a thing. It's such a shame, because we used to get LOADS of content during a new album cycle when Spotify wasn't there If Spotify pays artists between $0.003 - $0.005 per stream on average, Noel has earned 6.660.965,352 $ with Wonderwall. |
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Post by adamczakm on Jun 6, 2023 6:03:42 GMT -5
Who the fuck is a foo fighters fan? It’s like lifestyle music for dentists. Me. And a big one. |
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Post by andymorris on Jun 6, 2023 6:23:57 GMT -5
Who the fuck is a foo fighters fan? It’s like lifestyle music for dentists. Me. And a big one. Hereeee we goooo 😂 😉 |
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Post by mossy on Jun 6, 2023 6:46:59 GMT -5
I see Noel has brought out the big marketing gun: the Oasis email distribution list. GDPR be damned, there’s a chart battle on! 🤺
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Post by Teotihuacan on Jun 6, 2023 7:08:50 GMT -5
I see Noel has brought out the big marketing gun: the Oasis email distribution list. GDPR be damned, there’s a chart battle on! 🤺 Ahhh shit. 3 Alveston Place, Leamington Spa right? If you know, you know. |
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Post by mossy on Jun 6, 2023 7:15:36 GMT -5
I see Noel has brought out the big marketing gun: the Oasis email distribution list. GDPR be damned, there’s a chart battle on! 🤺 Ahhh shit. 3 Alveston Place, Leamington Spa right? If you know, you know. I still have all the postcards 😎 |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jun 6, 2023 7:57:50 GMT -5
Who the fuck is a foo fighters fan? It’s like lifestyle music for dentists. Me. And a big one. So is there like a cure for that or is it a condition you have to manage going forward? |
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Post by LlAM on Jun 6, 2023 8:13:09 GMT -5
Who the fuck is a foo fighters fan? It’s like lifestyle music for dentists. Me. And a big one. That's what she said x |
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Post by 0as1s on Jun 6, 2023 8:31:24 GMT -5
Still too early for a full verdict on CS but I would just like to say that Think of a Number is incredible. Whose is the solo? NG or Marr?
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Post by norkbauer on Jun 6, 2023 8:45:43 GMT -5
Still too early for a full verdict on CS but I would just like to say that Think of a Number is incredible. Whose is the solo? NG or Marr? Noel. Marr is not credited on Think of a Number, he only did Pretty Boy, Open the Door and Council Skies. |
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Post by Manualex on Jun 6, 2023 8:50:00 GMT -5
I see Noel has brought out the big marketing gun: the Oasis email distribution list. GDPR be damned, there’s a chart battle on! 🤺 The foos are doing their bit as well  |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Jun 6, 2023 8:58:33 GMT -5
Still too early for a full verdict on CS but I would just like to say that Think of a Number is incredible. Whose is the solo? NG or Marr? Noel. Marr is not credited on Think of a Number, he only did Pretty Boy, Open the Door and Council Skies. Think it may be Paul Stacey actually? |
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Post by norkbauer on Jun 6, 2023 9:02:19 GMT -5
Noel. Marr is not credited on Think of a Number, he only did Pretty Boy, Open the Door and Council Skies. Think it may be Paul Stacey actually? Would it be a hidden information? On the credits, we only have: Noel Gallagher - Vocals, backing vocals, acoustic guitar, electric guitar & bass guitar; Mikey Rowe & Callum Marinho - Keyboards; Chris Sharrock - Drums; Roxys & Jess Greenfield - Backing vocals; Clement St. Leonard - Percussion. |
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Post by ChampagneHypernova on Jun 6, 2023 9:06:51 GMT -5
I'm not able to give a full review yet, but after four days of listening to the album I must say that it's a very strong one with a good flow. However, there's still two tracks that I skip, There She Blows and Love is a Rich Man. They're not doing anything for me and they just feel out of place on the album. They should have been replaced by Flying on the Ground and Don't Stop. That's my current playlist for the album.
Absolute highlight at the moment is Think of a Number. It's incredible. Only time will tell how well this album stands the test of time, but as of now I'm really enjoying it. Well done Noel.
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Post by defmaybe00 on Jun 6, 2023 9:35:02 GMT -5
Think it may be Paul Stacey actually? Would it be a hidden information? On the credits, we only have: Noel Gallagher - Vocals, backing vocals, acoustic guitar, electric guitar & bass guitar; Mikey Rowe & Callum Marinho - Keyboards; Chris Sharrock - Drums; Roxys & Jess Greenfield - Backing vocals; Clement St. Leonard - Percussion. I don't have the CD, well that's Noel then, didn't expect a double solo from him |
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Post by norkbauer on Jun 6, 2023 9:38:08 GMT -5
Would it be a hidden information? On the credits, we only have: Noel Gallagher - Vocals, backing vocals, acoustic guitar, electric guitar & bass guitar; Mikey Rowe & Callum Marinho - Keyboards; Chris Sharrock - Drums; Roxys & Jess Greenfield - Backing vocals; Clement St. Leonard - Percussion. I don't have the CD, well that's Noel then, didn't expect a double solo from him Me neither. Credits and lyrics on Discogs pictures (tracks 1 to 10 only). |
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Post by mossy on Jun 6, 2023 9:56:35 GMT -5
I see Noel has brought out the big marketing gun: the Oasis email distribution list. GDPR be damned, there’s a chart battle on! 🤺 The foos are doing their bit as well Broken link. 🔗 |
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