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Post by eva on May 3, 2019 9:31:07 GMT -5
Watch out, that guy (aka bastardnumber1) literally revolves his whole life around Liam, his whole life, Noel’s career, his sexual fantasies... He’s not even a kid, he’s a fully grown adult. Says it all about the Oasis fan base giving their attention to some virgin who most likely lives in his mother’s basement. while we can't deny the first part of your post, the second one is completely unnecessary. he likes the attention, he's getting it. we can just ignore and move on same with lomax. let's avoid the personal attacks and insults, please |
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Post by Lennon2217 on May 3, 2019 9:32:47 GMT -5
Albums are dying for many reasons. Spotify amplified this issue. It’s more about having a long playlist to rack up the streams. I find it funny bands still release “double albums”. What’s a double album in 2019 anyway? Spotify can be an infinite playlist for any artist. Plus any good vinyl is gonna be a double release. Half my vinyl collection is now single albums split on two black circles.
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Post by eva on May 3, 2019 9:35:04 GMT -5
I mean you could have broken up MOON into 3 EPs when you think about it. Fort Knox Holy Mountain Keep On Reaching It’s A Beautiful World She Taught Me How To Fly Be Careful What You Wish For Black & White Sunshine If Love Was The Law The Man Who Built The Moon If Noel did this in 2017 how many people are pissed? Ultimately it doesn’t matter. I'd split it in 2 EPs, one with cosmic pop/whatever, the 2nd with fuller sound, IMO Holy Mountain Keep On Reaching It’s A Beautiful World She Taught Me How To Fly Black & White Sunshine Fort Knox Be Careful What You Wish For If Love Is The Law The Man Who Built The Moon completely happy to ignore the first one while I'd enjoy the other one more |
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Post by andymorris on May 3, 2019 9:50:59 GMT -5
Plus, albums tend to stay in history more than EPs, which are quickly forgotten. Nine Inch Nails recently did a similar run of three EPs over a year. By the time the third one came it, it was classified as an album rather than an EP. The reasoning Trent Reznor gave for this is that streaming services bury EPs (which get put in the same category as singles). The algorithms don’t surface them to casual fans and they’re harder for people to find. X Well yeah, EPs are a drop in the sea in the history of music and it's quite normal that those plateform dont treat them as important. Singles and albums are still the way to go if you want to have a big impact on music. It's an important format for indie music (like Belle and Sebastien mentionned here), but not for artists like NG. I'm pretty sure NG is releasing odd tracks he's recorded over the years that did not fit elsewhere, just to have something new for the summer dates and to fill in the gap between WBTM and the new album with Sardy. He's emptying his sock drawer. Albums are dying for many reasons. Spotify amplified this issue. It’s more about having a long playlist to rack up the streams. I find it funny bands still release “double albums”. What’s a double album in 2019 anyway? Spotify can be an infinite playlist for any artist. Plus any good vinyl is gonna be a double release. Half my vinyl collection is now single albums split on two black circles. I dont think it's dying. All major artists still release albums. In the end, when you wanna announce a comeback, it's still tour + album. It might be less important than before, but i doubt the format will ever die. You need a setlist with a good amount of new tracks for gigs, you just cant go and tour with a single or an EP. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on May 3, 2019 10:29:18 GMT -5
Nine Inch Nails recently did a similar run of three EPs over a year. By the time the third one came it, it was classified as an album rather than an EP. The reasoning Trent Reznor gave for this is that streaming services bury EPs (which get put in the same category as singles). The algorithms don’t surface them to casual fans and they’re harder for people to find. X Well yeah, EPs are a drop in the sea in the history of music and it's quite normal that those plateform dont treat them as important. Singles and albums are still the way to go if you want to have a big impact on music. It's an important format for indie music (like Belle and Sebastien mentionned here), but not for artists like NG. I'm pretty sure NG is releasing odd tracks he's recorded over the years that did not fit elsewhere, just to have something new for the summer dates and to fill in the gap between WBTM and the new album with Sardy. He's emptying his sock drawer. Albums are dying for many reasons. Spotify amplified this issue. It’s more about having a long playlist to rack up the streams. I find it funny bands still release “double albums”. What’s a double album in 2019 anyway? Spotify can be an infinite playlist for any artist. Plus any good vinyl is gonna be a double release. Half my vinyl collection is now single albums split on two black circles. I dont think it's dying. All major artists still release albums. In the end, when you wanna announce a comeback, it's still tour + album. It might be less important than before, but i doubt the format will ever die. You need a setlist with a good amount of new tracks for gigs, you just cant go and tour with a single or an EP. My point was it’s not about the classic album term. It’s about playlists. You can make ur Spotify playlist 10-30 songs long. You just need songs to populate it. |
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Post by Bellboy on May 3, 2019 10:31:30 GMT -5
12" picture disc is sold out already on his website.
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Post by dampcottage on May 3, 2019 10:35:11 GMT -5
I mean you could have broken up MOON into 3 EPs when you think about it. Fort Knox Holy Mountain Keep On Reaching It’s A Beautiful World She Taught Me How To Fly Be Careful What You Wish For Black & White Sunshine If Love Was The Law The Man Who Built The Moon If Noel did this in 2017 how many people are pissed? Ultimately it doesn’t matter. I have done playlists like this with every album after be here now, the 3 EPs are basically chasing yesterday part 2, tracks that have been around a while and some that have been written more recently but all nicely split to help empty our pockets, my thinking is Noel will tour the shit out of it for a while then do the usual and disappear for 2-3 years Ps I fully expect to see don't stop/bye bye my family on the EPs come on outside,oh lord,she must be one of us,ect ect and a couple from amongst the socks marked AA 😛 |
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Post by Lennon2217 on May 3, 2019 10:38:58 GMT -5
Do EPs count towards singles or album charts?
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Post by Let It🩸 on May 3, 2019 10:39:40 GMT -5
Get in here and give us a fake rehearsal setlist for Líam, bastardnumberfun, you goofy bastard!
Thanks.
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Post by oasisunited on May 3, 2019 11:15:41 GMT -5
Do EPs count towards singles or album charts? In the UK (https://www.officialcharts.com/), it looks like EP's count towards the singles charts, not the album charts. |
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Post by beentherenow on May 3, 2019 12:28:50 GMT -5
Plus, albums tend to stay in history more than EPs, which are quickly forgotten. Nine Inch Nails recently did a similar run of three EPs over a year. By the time the third one came it, it was classified as an album rather than an EP. The reasoning Trent Reznor gave for this is that streaming services bury EPs (which get put in the same category as singles). The algorithms don’t surface them to casual fans and they’re harder for people to find. X I came into this thread to post the exact same thing. Over the past 18 months or so NIN released three EPs which all sound differently but the first 2 are hidden in the singles section as Trent has said and would easily get passed by. Bold move by Noel (by his standards) but part of me still expects him to bottle it and release them all as a traditional LP by the years end PS I think the song is rubbish  |
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on May 3, 2019 13:06:00 GMT -5
Ugh EPs. Not a fan. The Pixies did a similar thing on their return a few years back (EP1, EP2, EP3) and it just didn't work. Eventually they combined them into a single LP and everyone forgot the EPs ever existed.
It sounds like all the EPs are ready, unless there's a good reason why, I'd rather Noel just combined them all and dropped an LP in June instead.
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Post by Lennon2217 on May 3, 2019 14:21:00 GMT -5
So I’m just gonna assume mid June, mid September and mid December for these EP drop dates.
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Post by popeyebonaparte on May 3, 2019 14:35:31 GMT -5
I would bet that we'll get all tracks on a single CD by Christmas.
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Post by mossy on May 3, 2019 15:47:40 GMT -5
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Post by fartpanic on May 3, 2019 16:52:28 GMT -5
The more i listen to the song, the less different it sounds compared to his solo discography, it's like Heat of the Moment mixed with What a Life. It's not bad great, but not bad either. It's soft 80s disco, something you casually listen to. As for the EP strategy, good on Noel for trying something new, especially if it's not that strong. it's probably because the songs dont fit with each other too and he wanted to get rid of them. But in the long run, EP wont be good for him. He's got a fanbase strong enough to release albums. Plus, albums tend to stay in history more than EPs, which are quickly forgotten. In the end, for an artist like NG, LPs still counts if he doesn't want to become a disposable artist. And i hope we get to hear one soon. Agree with the song comparisons. Got that disco beat of what a life and a similar outro on the chorus to heat of the moment. I think in terms of the EP idea, I dont think it's one or the other. We will get the EP and then an album at a time we would have got it anyway. This is just keeping things fresh for this set of gigs over the course of the year. Even Noel couldn't get away with touring the same setlist for 3 years in a row. |
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Post by fartpanic on May 3, 2019 16:53:58 GMT -5
Do EPs count towards singles or album charts? In the UK (https://www.officialcharts.com/), it looks like EP's count towards the singles charts, not the album charts. One last go at a no.1 single for Noel |
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Post by Lennon2217 on May 3, 2019 16:57:35 GMT -5
In the UK (https://www.officialcharts.com/), it looks like EP's count towards the singles charts, not the album charts. One last go at a no.1 single for Noel Nothing like chart manipulation. |
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Post by oasisunited on May 3, 2019 17:12:08 GMT -5
This looks like the relevant bit for the singles chart: "12-inch Vinyl over 7” Minimum £1.99 25 minutes and no more than four songs plus alternative versions of featured songs" This explains why he is only doing 12" and digital single, as the rules for a CD single are more strict (and nobody buys them anymore). |
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Post by spaneli on May 3, 2019 17:38:37 GMT -5
One last go at a no.1 single for Noel Nothing like chart manipulation. I mean, it's not a bad idea. Not really that different from a rapper releasing mixtape. One of the hottest rising artists: H.E.R. has made career exclusively through EPs. |
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Post by mossy on May 3, 2019 17:56:07 GMT -5
This looks like the relevant bit for the singles chart: "12-inch Vinyl over 7” Minimum £1.99 25 minutes and no more than four songs plus alternative versions of featured songs" This explains why he is only doing 12" and digital single, as the rules for a CD single are more strict (and nobody buys them anymore). Cheeky bar steward could’ve given us a fourth new song then! Who cares about a “12 inch” version which will be the exact same song but slightly longer. X |
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Post by bt95 on May 3, 2019 18:10:10 GMT -5
So I’m just gonna assume mid June, mid September and mid December for these EP drop dates. He said in that interview he did with Italian radio yesterday that 'end of the summer' is the 2nd EP. So yeh, mid Sept is probably spot on. |
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Post by Manualex on May 3, 2019 19:24:57 GMT -5
Ugh EPs. Not a fan. The Pixies did a similar thing on their return a few years back (EP1, EP2, EP3) and it just didn't work. Eventually they combined them into a single LP and everyone forgot the EPs ever existed. It sounds like all the EPs are ready, unless there's a good reason why, I'd rather Noel just combined them all and dropped an LP in June instead. The Smashing Pumpkins also worked like that for a while. Their approach was to release 12 EPs of music over two years. Ditched that after two or three and then released an LP(Oceanía). Some of that material was alright(Son For A Son, The Chimera), but that approach isnt for everyone. Perhaps there's some sleigh bells in the third EP? Or strings a la whatever? X |
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Post by Lennon2217 on May 3, 2019 20:49:55 GMT -5
Nothing like chart manipulation. I mean, it's not a bad idea. Not really that different from a rapper releasing mixtape. One of the hottest rising artists: H.E.R. has made career exclusively through EPs. Oh I agree. Rappers like Drake are doing playlist manipulation. Taylor Swift has entered the fray as well. Not only can you stream her new single but you can buy a couple different vinyl options and an autographed CD offer. Her song is going to smash into the charts. |
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Post by Tales from The Mighty I on May 3, 2019 23:42:43 GMT -5
Honestly? I'm just waiting for all EP's to come out now, and the new album, sticking it all together in one big playlist and listening to it altogether. Gonna be great!
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