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Post by markleeds on Nov 24, 2017 14:10:53 GMT -5
For me it is a weaker collection of songs than the previous two solo efforts and is sadly the continuation of a downward spiral.
Hardly surprising though most artists like footballers peak in their twenties and then decline. Noel on this evidence is no different.
It has a few redeeming songs (she taught me, beautiful world and dead in the water) but these are all lesser versions of previous efforts but with better production.
On first listen I really liked the man who built the moon, but once you notice it is just Wonderwall without the chorus it loses its appeal.
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Post by glio on Nov 24, 2017 14:17:23 GMT -5
for some reason if love is the law reminds me of too much of lightning bolt jake bugg.. not good
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Post by GlastoEls on Nov 24, 2017 14:30:46 GMT -5
for some reason if love is the law reminds me of too much of lightning bolt jake bugg.. not good Isn't that a good thing in that Lightening Bolt is a tune? |
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Post by glio on Nov 24, 2017 14:38:17 GMT -5
for some reason if love is the law reminds me of too much of lightning bolt jake bugg.. not good Isn't that a good thing in that Lightening Bolt is a tune? no |
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Post by ricardogce on Nov 24, 2017 14:41:04 GMT -5
The more I listen to the second half, the less I like the first. Too much novelty for the sake of novelty. When Noel sounds like himself with Holmes' production behind him, the album's sublime. But the first half sounds like a David Holmes album, featuring Noel Gallagher.
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Post by CFC2013 on Nov 24, 2017 14:41:16 GMT -5
For me it is a weaker collection of songs than the previous two solo efforts and is sadly the continuation of a downward spiral. Hardly surprising though most artists like footballers peak in their twenties and then decline. Noel on this evidence is no different. It has a few redeeming songs (she taught me, beautiful world and dead in the water) but these are all lesser versions of previous efforts but with better production. On first listen I really liked the man who built the moon, but once you notice it is just Wonderwall without the chorus it loses its appeal. |
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Post by CFC2013 on Nov 24, 2017 14:42:41 GMT -5
The more I listen to the second half, the less I like the first. Too much novelty for the sake of novelty. When Noel sounds like himself with Holmes' production behind him, the album's sublime. But the first half sounds like a David Holmes album, featuring Noel Gallagher. That may have been on purpose. Someone here earlier described the album as schizophrenic, it was probably a design philosophy to have the two sides sound different. |
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Post by lurker1 on Nov 24, 2017 14:51:07 GMT -5
Any way to purchase god help us all digitally?
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Post by carlober on Nov 24, 2017 14:54:57 GMT -5
For me it is a weaker collection of songs than the previous two solo efforts and is sadly the continuation of a downward spiral. Hardly surprising though most artists like footballers peak in their twenties and then decline. Noel on this evidence is no different. It has a few redeeming songs (she taught me, beautiful world and dead in the water) but these are all lesser versions of previous efforts but with better production. On first listen I really liked the man who built the moon, but once you notice it is just Wonderwall without the chorus it loses its appeal. Is it?  |
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Post by carlober on Nov 24, 2017 14:55:51 GMT -5
Any way to purchase god help us all digitally? I don't think so. Japanese bonus tracks are usually cd-only, unless a few exceptions. |
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Post by batfink30 on Nov 24, 2017 14:57:29 GMT -5
For me it is a weaker collection of songs than the previous two solo efforts and is sadly the continuation of a downward spiral. Hardly surprising though most artists like footballers peak in their twenties and then decline. Noel on this evidence is no different. It has a few redeeming songs (she taught me, beautiful world and dead in the water) but these are all lesser versions of previous efforts but with better production. On first listen I really liked the man who built the moon, but once you notice it is just Wonderwall without the chorus it loses its appeal. Is it? Yeah, Wonderwall is the first thing I thought when I heard TMWBTM  |
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Post by lurker1 on Nov 24, 2017 15:04:41 GMT -5
Any way to purchase god help us all digitally? I don't think so. Japanese bonus tracks are usually cd-only, unless a few exceptions. Gotcha, thank you |
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Post by alwaysnow on Nov 24, 2017 15:16:24 GMT -5
The more I listen to the second half, the less I like the first. Too much novelty for the sake of novelty. When Noel sounds like himself with Holmes' production behind him, the album's sublime. But the first half sounds like a David Holmes album, featuring Noel Gallagher. I thought I was alone there, I feel precisely the same. The first half is uninteresting and even annoying at times. The second half is really enjoyable, although I don’t like Dead In The Water. Take that from a guy who finds Shout It Out Loud and Talk Tonight boring. |
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Post by goletitout1986 on Nov 24, 2017 15:18:30 GMT -5
I need to listen to it all in one go over the weekend - from what I've heard so far, it's not really for me though  |
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Post by anuity on Nov 24, 2017 15:19:51 GMT -5
I bought the CD today and have just given it the first listen.
Its not bad, and actually quite ok. Shockingly, I find Holy Mountain as one of the highlights... Another one is Interlude... best song is The Man Who Built the Moon.
It's a beautiful world sounds decent until the chorus and the annoying Noel's vocals. She taught me how to fly is dreadful. I dont think I could sit through this song for one more.
Need to give it more listens, sonically its interesting, though I dont find it to be particularly experimental to be honest.
Still I think his first record is the best, I enjoy it a lot. This one might be 2nd best, as I really dislike Chasing Yesterday for its melancholic and depressive sound. Though it does has some very nice and special songs.
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Post by oasis6 on Nov 24, 2017 15:24:45 GMT -5
The more I listen to the second half, the less I like the first. Too much novelty for the sake of novelty. When Noel sounds like himself with Holmes' production behind him, the album's sublime. But the first half sounds like a David Holmes album, featuring Noel Gallagher. I agree, the second half makes the record for me. My 3 least favorite songs are on the first half. I like hitting B&WS, cause from then on its incredible. |
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Post by neila83 on Nov 24, 2017 15:29:59 GMT -5
For me it is a weaker collection of songs than the previous two solo efforts and is sadly the continuation of a downward spiral. Hardly surprising though most artists like footballers peak in their twenties and then decline. Noel on this evidence is no different. It has a few redeeming songs (she taught me, beautiful world and dead in the water) but these are all lesser versions of previous efforts but with better production. On first listen I really liked the man who built the moon, but once you notice it is just Wonderwall without the chorus it loses its appeal. Fair enough if you don't like it. Bit much to jump to asserting that its an artist in decline though when the album is getting better reviews than the last two, and consensus - outside this forum at least - seems to be that it's his best work in years. None of my friends had any interest in his last two albums because it was the same old, but fort knox and beautiful world woke them up. |
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Post by Headmaster on Nov 24, 2017 15:39:24 GMT -5
Hearing the album for the first time now, amazing stuffs.
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Post by underneaththesky on Nov 24, 2017 15:40:32 GMT -5
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Post by markleeds on Nov 24, 2017 15:43:52 GMT -5
A quick google confirms I am not the only one who hears it..
From uncut magazine review
The Man Who Built The Moon?" near the end of the album, takes the tune and and rhythm of "Wonderwall", and puts it in the epic setting of a Bond Them
And from the times
The Man Who Built the Moon sounds rather like a slowed-down Wonderwall.
It is pretty blatant.
Fair enough he wrote Wonderwall so is perfectly entitled to rip it off.
And don't get me wrong - when I say he say is in decline - it is a decline from a ridiculously high point and for me his lesser material is still better than most others best efforts..
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Post by walterglass on Nov 24, 2017 15:45:16 GMT -5
Cut to the chase please, Buster. |
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Post by Zorro On Donuts on Nov 24, 2017 15:49:21 GMT -5
I think its very good. It's not Noel at his career best, but that was 20 years ago at this point so what can you expect? It's a welcome change for me from the mid tempo stuff we've been getting from him for years. I'd like to see him continue with the fire in his approach, but probably not down this exact alley again. That being said, I'm glad this album exists. It's like if Abbey Road is your favorite Beatles album, but sometimes you want to put on Magical Mystery Tour. There's no dip in quality here, I don't know what people are hearing that I'm not. The "rockers" on his past two solo albums have been fairly tame and sometimes forgettable (not all of them), and the ballads have been poor man versions of his greatest work (not all of them, again some great stuff pops up). I've always felt like each NG solo album was half ok, half brilliant. I'd say this one continues that streak, just in a different direction. It doesn't sound like Oasis, and it isn't bad, and for a guy who's so deep into his career, that's pretty astounding.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Nov 24, 2017 15:49:29 GMT -5
Mean Mother Mustard's verdict after one listen, paraphrasing here:
"WHAT is this noise? There's so much shouting, so much noise. Not sure what to think. Where's the old Noel?"
She did like Holy Mountain, Dead In The Water ("this is GORGEOUS. Absolutely stunning!")
Today, after 5 listens:
"I've listened 5 times to it. I just had to get used to it. I actually like quite a few songs on it. Not everything, but most of it. I still think he shouts a bit and should do more acoustic songs."
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Post by CFC2013 on Nov 24, 2017 15:56:17 GMT -5
A quick google confirms I am not the only one who hears it.. From uncut magazine review The Man Who Built The Moon?" near the end of the album, takes the tune and and rhythm of "Wonderwall", and puts it in the epic setting of a Bond Them And from the times The Man Who Built the Moon sounds rather like a slowed-down Wonderwall. It is pretty blatant. Fair enough he wrote Wonderwall so is perfectly entitled to rip it off. And don't get me wrong - when I say he say is in decline - it is a decline from a ridiculously high point and for me his lesser material is still better than most others best efforts.. It sounds nothing like Wonderwall.   |
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Post by Let It🩸 on Nov 24, 2017 16:34:36 GMT -5
The Spider and the Fly by the Rolling Stones is a great song...
Thanks.
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