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Post by durk on Nov 21, 2017 6:37:49 GMT -5
Wow - really looking forward to this now.
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Post by ariananana on Nov 21, 2017 6:46:32 GMT -5
I need his next record to be this. Stripped down acoustic and piano. Record it once, no fuss and no over production shit he likes to pile on. This sounds amazing and is the first song from WBTM that has given me chills and made me excited. Go figure. yes, that's what I've been saying. his voice fits best these type of songs and are more pleasing in sound rather than HM or Fly, which sound too forced and uninspired I’m a noel purist and I’m not ashamed. It’s not that I don’t like experimental music, I love it- but what I’m finding is that by having Noel ditch already written music in the studio, he may have ditched those melodies that he does so beautifully. Why was setting sun with the chemical brothers so good??? Because it started off as a noel acoustic.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2017 6:48:51 GMT -5
I need his next record to be this. Stripped down acoustic and piano.
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Post by Doc Lobster on Nov 21, 2017 7:11:44 GMT -5
Noel's best acoustic ballad in decades. It's insane he wrote this one while he was working on the other tracks.
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Post by asyouwere on Nov 21, 2017 7:12:09 GMT -5
Tears in my eyes. This is brilliant.
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Post by ninestonecowboy on Nov 21, 2017 7:21:59 GMT -5
yes, that's what I've been saying. his voice fits best these type of songs and are more pleasing in sound rather than HM or Fly, which sound too forced and uninspired I’m a noel purist and I’m not ashamed. It’s not that I don’t like experimental music, I love it- but what I’m finding is that by having Noel ditch already written music in the studio, he may have ditched those melodies that he does so beautifully. Why was setting sun with the chemical brothers so good??? Because it started off as a noel acoustic. Succinctly put. My feelings exactly. How can you be producing a great songwriter and essentially ditch the thing he does best? It's ridiculous. You can still experiment with production styles and have great songs at the core of it. Many have.
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Post by dhamon on Nov 21, 2017 7:51:25 GMT -5
Spine tingling good.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 21, 2017 7:55:16 GMT -5
yes, that's what I've been saying. his voice fits best these type of songs and are more pleasing in sound rather than HM or Fly, which sound too forced and uninspired I’m a noel purist and I’m not ashamed. It’s not that I don’t like experimental music, I love it- but what I’m finding is that by having Noel ditch already written music in the studio, he may have ditched those melodies that he does so beautifully. Why was setting sun with the chemical brothers so good??? Because it started off as a noel acoustic. Well technically speaking it began as an Oasis loud rocker from the very very early 90s. Comin’ On Strong.
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Post by neila83 on Nov 21, 2017 8:32:08 GMT -5
I need his next record to be this. Stripped down acoustic and piano. Record it once, no fuss and no over production shit he likes to pile on. This sounds amazing and is the first song from WBTM that has given me chills and made me excited. Go figure. I think we may be getting carried away. Yes it's great, but it doesn't mean at all a Noel acoustic album would sound like this. It'd probably by surrounded by songs like Dream On. It's like hearing Fort Knox and assuming this album would all sound like that. History suggests he wouldn't have the consistency to carry off a purely acoustic album. I also personally think even his best songs of this type tend to be a bit samey to pull it off too.
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Post by ninestonecowboy on Nov 21, 2017 8:40:55 GMT -5
I think a fully acoustic album would get boring very fast. He hasn't got the guitar skills to pull off a full album that stripped down. It would get very tiresome after a few songs. His simple strumming patterns an chord progressions would wear thin pretty quickly, and then if you start adding other elements to make up for that, then you start just entering middle of the road acoustic rock territory.
If you listen to any truly classic acoustic stripped down album, it generally comes with excellent acoustic playing. Noel's not exactly Neil Young or Nick Drake is he.
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Post by neila83 on Nov 21, 2017 9:18:28 GMT -5
I think a fully acoustic album would get boring very fast. He hasn't got the guitar skills to pull off a full album that stripped down. It would get very tiresome after a few songs. His simple strumming patterns an chord progressions would wear thin pretty quickly, and then if you start adding other elements to make up for that, then you start just entering middle of the road acoustic rock territory. If you listen to any truly classic acoustic stripped down album, it generally comes with excellent acoustic playing. Noel's not exactly Neil Young or Nick Drake is he. A mini EP or whatever they call it of 5/6 acoustic songs would be good between album releases Fully agree with both of you. No reason we can't have the best of both worlds. Especially if he does want to keep going with David Holmes (I hope so), then he's obviously going to have a bunch of more traditional songs lying around, may as well just throw em out on an EP. It'd be money for nothing; he could literally record it in a day, chuck it out to stream and I'm sure it'd sell decently.
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Post by fmc on Nov 21, 2017 9:23:58 GMT -5
This was a soundcheck no? I wonder if Mikey Rowe was just playing along, ad-libbing. Anyway, I'm going to say he did, I dont care what anyone else says!? Beautiful song, love it already This for me is how I fell in love with Noel's talent. Simple and yet so meaningful for unknown, magical reasons.
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Post by RocketMan on Nov 21, 2017 9:26:00 GMT -5
it's a great song without a doubt, but it also bores me. he can write and he has written this song for more than 20 years now, i'm glad he is moving forward.
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Post by bt95 on Nov 21, 2017 9:35:28 GMT -5
So I've only listened to this, and God Help Us All.
Didn't have time to give the full album a play, so will do that later.
I really, really liked this one.
Classic Noel. A touching ballad and I'm glad he won't re-record it. Also glad it's a bonus track/b-side. Just a nice little gem.
God Help Us All - I think that's great. Really like the new verse and the production (or lack thereof) on it.
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Post by bt95 on Nov 21, 2017 9:36:20 GMT -5
This was a soundcheck no? I wonder if Mikey Rowe was just playing along, ad-libbing. Anyway, I'm going to say he did, I dont care what anyone else says!? Beautiful song, love it already This for me is how I fell in love with Noel's talent. Simple and yet so meaningful for unknown, magical reasons. Yeh Noel has said how Rowe just started playing, and Rowe himself mentions it on the very first episode of the Stage Left Podcast back in 2015.
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Post by ariananana on Nov 21, 2017 9:36:27 GMT -5
I’m a noel purist and I’m not ashamed. It’s not that I don’t like experimental music, I love it- but what I’m finding is that by having Noel ditch already written music in the studio, he may have ditched those melodies that he does so beautifully. Why was setting sun with the chemical brothers so good??? Because it started off as a noel acoustic. Well technically speaking it began as an Oasis loud rocker from the very very early 90s. Comin’ On Strong. Which..... started on an acoustic guitar first. There’s some interview, forgot which one, where he says he starts all the songs on an acoustic guitar and if they pass that test, they go on from there.
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Post by mouth on Nov 21, 2017 9:36:45 GMT -5
I think a fully acoustic album would get boring very fast. He hasn't got the guitar skills to pull off a full album that stripped down. It would get very tiresome after a few songs. His simple strumming patterns an chord progressions would wear thin pretty quickly, and then if you start adding other elements to make up for that, then you start just entering middle of the road acoustic rock territory. If you listen to any truly classic acoustic stripped down album, it generally comes with excellent acoustic playing. Noel's not exactly Neil Young or Nick Drake is he. noel's classic acoustic renditions were way more interesting than what he does nowaydays. he was pulling and hammering strings all the way through his songs and making them sound very special. today, thanks to capoing every song, he's just strumming his Em7-G-Dsus-Asus chord progressions. and that indeed can become very triresome. nevertheless, dead in the water is a pretty nice song, that he has built with his standard capo chords.
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Post by bt95 on Nov 21, 2017 9:37:32 GMT -5
Don't know why people want an acoustic album or even EP, tbh.
We all know Noel can do it.
He literally has the ability to write soaring melodies and touching ballads at a whim.
I don't want him to pack an album or EP full of them. One or two on an album is fine.
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Post by ariananana on Nov 21, 2017 9:39:30 GMT -5
I think a fully acoustic album would get boring very fast. He hasn't got the guitar skills to pull off a full album that stripped down. It would get very tiresome after a few songs. His simple strumming patterns an chord progressions would wear thin pretty quickly, and then if you start adding other elements to make up for that, then you start just entering middle of the road acoustic rock territory. If you listen to any truly classic acoustic stripped down album, it generally comes with excellent acoustic playing. Noel's not exactly Neil Young or Nick Drake is he. I wasn’t bored once listening to The Dreams We Have As Children record..... I’ll tell you that. That’s one of my favorite Noel records of all time.
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Post by bt95 on Nov 21, 2017 9:39:50 GMT -5
Well technically speaking it began as an Oasis loud rocker from the very very early 90s. Comin’ On Strong. Which..... started on an acoustic guitar first. There’s some interview, forgot which one, where he says he starts all the songs on an acoustic guitar and if they pass that test, they go on from there. Yep Except with this album. He's confirmed that he used electric guitar on every track. I know he likes a hyperbole every now and then, but pretty sure he also said that he didn't start any new song this time around on an acoustic, and that hardly any (if any) are used in the recordings. However, he did say that he has since played the new songs on an acoustic, and they have passed the test. Which, if anyone can play guitar (or even can just strum along to the basics like me) will know, is true. Holy Mountain sounds great acoustic. STMHTF is even better. Both are really simple and perfect for beginners as well.
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Post by ninestonecowboy on Nov 21, 2017 9:57:13 GMT -5
I think a fully acoustic album would get boring very fast. He hasn't got the guitar skills to pull off a full album that stripped down. It would get very tiresome after a few songs. His simple strumming patterns an chord progressions would wear thin pretty quickly, and then if you start adding other elements to make up for that, then you start just entering middle of the road acoustic rock territory. If you listen to any truly classic acoustic stripped down album, it generally comes with excellent acoustic playing. Noel's not exactly Neil Young or Nick Drake is he. I wasn’t bored once listening to The Dreams We Have As Children record..... I’ll tell you that. That’s one of my favorite Noel records of all time. Yeah but things like that and Unplugged were carried by great classic songs. I think Noel has it in him to write a few good ones but for him to come up with a really great acoustic album these days...i'm not sure his songs are quite strong enough now. Maybe a mini album/EP could work better.
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Post by carlober on Nov 21, 2017 10:04:40 GMT -5
I haven't listened to the full album yet, but I decided to listen to this one.
Yeah, it's magical. Goosebumps-inducing.
However... I believe Noel could write a couple of songs like this one in his sleep. It's not really a negative thing, but I'm glad he's chosen to do something a bit different with this record.
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Post by bt95 on Nov 21, 2017 10:05:07 GMT -5
I haven't listened to the full album yet, but I decided to listen to this one. Yeah, it's magical. Goosebumps-inducing. However... I believe Noel could write a couple of songs like this one in his sleep. It's not really a negative thing, but I'm glad he's chosen to do something a bit different with this record. Exactly my thoughts!
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Post by fmc on Nov 21, 2017 10:20:04 GMT -5
I'm waiting for the calm as the storm's getting under my skin Im trying to fix the hole in my head where the rain gets in
Who's cutting onions?
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Post by Binary Sunset on Nov 21, 2017 10:31:54 GMT -5
I need his next record to be this. Stripped down acoustic and piano. Record it once, no fuss and no over production shit he likes to pile on. This sounds amazing and is the first song from WBTM that has given me chills and made me excited. Go figure. yes, that's what I've been saying. his voice fits best these type of songs and are more pleasing in sound rather than HM or Fly, which sound too forced and uninspired I actually think his voice lets down the songs I've heard from WBTM (excluding DITW). It's just where his vocal strengths are....
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