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Post by andymorris on Oct 27, 2017 14:44:44 GMT -5
I like both, but i hope they will be the weakest track on the record. Judging by past choices from Noel for his "singles", i'm guessing this could be the case.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2017 14:56:35 GMT -5
I don´t like Holy Mountain but i´ve been liking Fort Knox more and more with every listen. If the latter is any indication of the rest of the record, then it´s a good sign.
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Post by SheSaidHerNameWasDot on Oct 27, 2017 15:01:18 GMT -5
Don't like either. But still hold out high hopes for something epic on the record.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Oct 27, 2017 15:02:54 GMT -5
Love both.
Noel's 3rd album, and just like it's Be Here Now counterpart it's a wall of fucking sound, man.
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Post by osoasis on Oct 27, 2017 15:08:20 GMT -5
I'm ok with both, but I'm getting a little worried about the production.
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Post by matt on Oct 27, 2017 16:32:00 GMT -5
Love both. Noel's 3rd album, and just like it's Be Here Now counterpart it's a wall of fucking sound, man. This is what I like. Some folk are put off by the loudness of it - some would say overproduced. But it's all a wonderful racket so far. |
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Post by matt on Oct 27, 2017 16:39:53 GMT -5
Holy Mountain is shit. I do love Fort Knox, and it will be another great stage entrance song if that's how it will be used, but it's also the weakest opening track so far from HFB. Put it on a U2 album and nobody would know. I have every reason to hope this will be a great and addictive album. But it's still possible that when the dust settles and we've heard it all I'll prefer Liam's album. I see what you mean (of his first two albums, Everybody's On The Run and Riverman are arguably Noel's two best tracks, certainly in my top three) but I think it's impossible to compare - this opener is so vastly different that it serves a completely different purpose. It's more imaginative and visual in it's motive. Cinematic is a perfect description because it's one of those songs that is supposed to overawe the senses and take you to another world, physical or imaginary. Songs like Riverman and Everybody's On The Run have more of an emotional outpouring that are intended to be cathartic. Both types of songs are great, but I've got plenty of catharsis with Noel's music in the past and I'm not so much looking for that right now. This new one is different in that it offers mind blowing contemplation! And I can't believe I'm saying that. I adore both of these tunes and they really are meeting expectations with what I wanted from him for so so long. A very very happy Oasis fan these last couple of weeks. |
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Post by Frank Lee Vulgar on Oct 27, 2017 16:41:15 GMT -5
Still love Holy Mountain and play it to death.
Fort Knox starts off amazing and I love the "get yourself together" part, I just feel there's a little too much filler in between. Could have been a minute shorter, or had some more lyrics.
Altogether, great start, beats the previous albums' first two singles for me(TDOYAM + IIHAG and ITHOTM + Mighty I).
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Post by sledgehammer87 on Oct 27, 2017 17:16:29 GMT -5
Great how he got from 'She Bangs' to 'You gotta get yourself together '. Great job Noel, way to go! Maybe one day he's even able to reach 'BABY COME ON's level!
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Post by LlAM on Oct 28, 2017 1:44:49 GMT -5
Two songs in and I'm really loving it.
I'm getting lots of Definitely Maybe vibes in the way that FK is balls out and menacing (Bring it on down) and HM is tongue in cheek and very fun (Digsys Dinner, Shakermaker)
I think this album will be epic and be around for a long, long time.
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Post by The Escapist on Oct 28, 2017 1:55:29 GMT -5
Two songs in and I'm really loving it. I'm getting lots of Definitely Maybe vibes in the way that FK is balls out and menacing (Bring it on down) and HM is tongue in cheek and very fun (Digsys Dinner, Shakermaker) I think this album will be epic and be around for a long, long time. Definitely feels like it's gonna be the best Gallagher album since Be Here Now. We shall see. |
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Post by mostlyharmless on Oct 28, 2017 1:58:16 GMT -5
I wish he could have dropped the trailer, then Fort Knox, It's a beautiful world, then the whole album. HM does make more sense when played after Fort Knox. Before hearing any bit of his new material I once imagined Noel might shock us with a mind blowing classic, but I'm more realistic now. It's interestingly alright, like a homework assigned in a creativity workshop rather than opening a new door to rediscover your muse, but it serves its purpose.
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Post by spaneli on Oct 28, 2017 2:01:36 GMT -5
Holy Mountain is shit. I do love Fort Knox, and it will be another great stage entrance song if that's how it will be used, but it's also the weakest opening track so far from HFB. Put it on a U2 album and nobody would know. I have every reason to hope this will be a great and addictive album. But it's still possible that when the dust settles and we've heard it all I'll prefer Liam's album. I see what you mean (of his first two albums, Everybody's On The Run and Riverman are arguably Noel's two best tracks, certainly in my top three) but I think it's impossible to compare - this opener is so vastly different that it serves a completely different purpose. It's more imaginative and visual in it's motive. Cinematic is a perfect description because it's one of those songs that is supposed to overawe the senses and take you to another world, physical or imaginary. Songs like Riverman and Everybody's On The Run have more of an emotional outpouring that are intended to be cathartic. Both types of songs are great, but I've got plenty of catharsis with Noel's music in the past and I'm not so much looking for that right now. This new one is different in that it offers mind blowing contemplation! And I can't believe I'm saying that. I adore both of these tunes and they really are meeting expectations with what I wanted from him for so so long. A very very happy Oasis fan these last couple of weeks. I would disagree with your assessment of the differences between Fort Knox and EOTR, considering EOTR was supposed to be cinematic with it's use of Ennio Mericone strings. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2017 3:16:16 GMT -5
I'm rather ok with Fort Knox but it's nothing special. Lacks of something, it gets boring fast.
Still can't stand Holy Mountain.
Hoping the album will be more in the vein of Fort Knox though, maybe a bit more ambitious. Let's see "It's a Beautiful World" now !
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Post by Regi on Oct 28, 2017 3:37:12 GMT -5
Two very poor songs.
I'm not keen on Noel's solo albums to date, so I'm not expecting much from this, but he has completely lost the plot going on what I've heard so far.
Everyone has their own tastes and opinions, but I get the impression some people are trying to convince themselves that they like this guff because it's Noel Gallagher.
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Post by AdidasNG72 on Oct 28, 2017 4:14:20 GMT -5
Love both. Noel's 3rd album, and just like it's Be Here Now counterpart it's a wall of fucking sound, man. This is why I am really on board for this album (BHN being my favourite). |
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Post by ninestonecowboy on Oct 28, 2017 5:06:31 GMT -5
Fort Knox is a very good opening track. As a standalone track, i don't think it's a song people will be rushing back to hear on it's own once the novelty of Noel having a new track released wears off. Definitely seems a track that is to be listened to with the whole album.
Holy Mountain might be the cheesiest tune Noel has ever done. Not for me this one, it makes me cringe a bit.
With that said, the production and the instrumentation on the tracks is still making me look forward to hearing the album. If they can apply it to some better songs on the album, then it should be good.
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Post by goletitout1986 on Oct 28, 2017 5:21:17 GMT -5
Both songs are pretty poor in my opinion. Not pre-ordering the album is proving a wise decision so far.
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Post by goletitout1986 on Oct 28, 2017 5:22:33 GMT -5
Two very poor songs. I'm not keen on Noel's solo albums to date, so I'm not expecting much from this, but he has completely lost the plot going on what I've heard so far. Everyone has their own tastes and opinions, but I get the impression some people are trying to convince themselves that they like this guff because it's Noel Gallagher. +1. |
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Post by ricardogce on Oct 28, 2017 5:23:40 GMT -5
Love them both because of what they represent as harbingers of the album. Neither one is good as a traditional single, really, but you can tell that taken as part of a whole, they're brilliant.
And on a personal note, I had to make the hard decision to let my 16-year-old dog rest yesterday. And the first positive feeling I experienced after a very long, emotionally crushing day, was hearing Fort Knox. You've got to get yourself together, indeed.
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Post by goletitout1986 on Oct 28, 2017 5:35:02 GMT -5
As a songwriter, he can obviously do what he wants and rightly so. But for me, hearing these 2 songs in comparison to Rock n Roll Star, Live Forever, Champagne Supernova etc...there is no comparison and I feel sad that 'that' Noel has gone.
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Post by oasis6 on Oct 28, 2017 7:38:10 GMT -5
I think the appreciation for both songs will grow once we have the whole album. My guess is that this album will be an experience that needs to be heard in full and not a standalone track type of album. One of those, if you have the time, go through it all, don't pop it on if you have a 10 minute drive. Fort Knox started it off, if the rest is amazing with a flow that makes sense, and then End Credits ties it all off, that will be perfect.
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Post by oasisserbia on Oct 28, 2017 12:33:09 GMT -5
Funny thing is that when you play FK and then HM, it sounds very much like some of the latest Kasabian's album. And those who praise this two songs the most are the biggest Kasabian haters.
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Post by matt on Oct 28, 2017 15:23:26 GMT -5
Funny thing is that when you play FK and then HM, it sounds very much like some of the latest Kasabian's album. And those who praise this two songs the most are the biggest Kasabian haters. Sort of correct, but more accurately, this is what Kasabian would sound like if they had any degree of talent. |
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Post by matt on Oct 28, 2017 16:06:12 GMT -5
As a songwriter, he can obviously do what he wants and rightly so. But for me, hearing these 2 songs in comparison to Rock n Roll Star, Live Forever, Champagne Supernova etc...there is no comparison and I feel sad that 'that' Noel has gone.That Noel went away a long long long time ago. Barring a handful of tunes, what followed was a shallow husk of that version. This is a new phase for a new time, one that doesn't rely on nostalgia or the baggage of Oasis. A regeneration, but I'm sure once the album is heard, many will still notice this is the same guy. We'd never move forward if we kept sticking to the same old same old and didn't explore a little bit. I think it's only fair for those folk who really felt the decline and were hankering for Noel to do something different since 2000 to get what they want after so long. It's long overdue. |
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