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Post by Spaceman on May 21, 2018 20:19:31 GMT -5
I guess it says a lot about the importance of an issue when this guy gets all serious instead of writing his usual irrelevant nonsense or posting boring cat photos. Thanks. I like the cat's mattress.
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Post by jordan71421 on May 21, 2018 21:04:09 GMT -5
Americans are fine, America is disgusting. What an utterly baffling sentence
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Post by Officer Jim Kurring on May 21, 2018 22:08:38 GMT -5
Americans are fine, America is disgusting. What an utterly baffling sentence I'd really like to see you and Beady’s Here Now get the help you need......you're brainwashed, he's brainwashed..... My advice: stop listening to conservative voices and radio, and enjoy life..........life's really short, relatively speaking.......get out there and make it a better world, and post cat pics. Thanks.
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Post by jordan71421 on May 21, 2018 22:14:48 GMT -5
What an utterly baffling sentence I'd really like to see you and Beady’s Here Now get the help you need......you're brainwashed, he's brainwashed..... My advice: stop listening to conservative voices and radio, and enjoy life..........life's really short, relatively speaking.......get out there and make it a better world, and post cat pics. Thanks. You think I’m brainwashed because I’m asking questions to people on this forum about gun control and disagree with them on certain points? Talk about someone needing help
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Post by Officer Jim Kurring on May 21, 2018 22:21:43 GMT -5
I'd really like to see you and Beady’s Here Now get the help you need......you're brainwashed, he's brainwashed..... My advice: stop listening to conservative voices and radio, and enjoy life..........life's really short, relatively speaking.......get out there and make it a better world, and post cat pics. Thanks. You think I’m brainwashed because I’m asking questions to people on this forum about gun control and disagree with them on certain points? Talk about someone needing help I need help on replacing some roof shingles - had a wind storm last week: wind is my least favorite weather phenomenon; give me cold, snow, heat - I don't care; no wind.....it's like being in a convection oven. Thanks.
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Post by jordan71421 on May 21, 2018 22:23:06 GMT -5
You think I’m brainwashed because I’m asking questions to people on this forum about gun control and disagree with them on certain points? Talk about someone needing help I need help on replacing some roof shingles - had a wind storm last week: wind is my least favorite weather phenomenon; give me cold, snow, heat - I don't care; no wind.....it's like being in a convection oven. Thanks. Case in point
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Post by Officer Jim Kurring on May 21, 2018 22:26:32 GMT -5
I need help on replacing some roof shingles - had a wind storm last week: wind is my least favorite weather phenomenon; give me cold, snow, heat - I don't care; no wind.....it's like being in a convection oven. Thanks. Case in point I will pay you in bubblegum...... God bless.
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Post by funhouse on May 22, 2018 2:46:07 GMT -5
Maybe I've missed this jordan71421, but what are your reasons for believing that nothing will change with stricter gun control?
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Post by jordan71421 on May 22, 2018 9:09:15 GMT -5
Maybe I've missed this jordan71421, but what are your reasons for believing that nothing will change with stricter gun control? I do believe it will reduce some shootings (which is obviously a positive thing) but I just think the anti-gun mindset currently in the US is reactionary (which I understand) and does not count other factors that cause these shootings. Obviously I can only speak for what I see, and a lot of people I know think simply if guns go away that these shootings won’t happen. I don’t believe that would happen
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Post by funhouse on May 22, 2018 11:09:55 GMT -5
Maybe I've missed this jordan71421, but what are your reasons for believing that nothing will change with stricter gun control? I do believe it will reduce some shootings (which is obviously a positive thing) With that in mind I don't understand why you would be against it tbh. No matter if you think some people that want it are wrong in their analyses and so on, saving innocent lives from being killed should always be the top priority, right? Making it go away completely is probably impossible, but reducing the chances of it happening will always be better than doing nothing.
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Post by jordan71421 on May 22, 2018 11:57:29 GMT -5
I do believe it will reduce some shootings (which is obviously a positive thing) With that in mind I don't understand why you would be against it tbh. No matter if you think some people that want it are wrong in their analyses and so on, saving innocent lives from being killed should always be the top priority, right? Making it go away completely is probably impossible, but reducing the chances of it happening will always be better than doing nothing. I never actually said I’m fully against it, I’m just not sure how to feel about it yet. But please continue to put words into my mouth
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Post by funhouse on May 22, 2018 12:08:37 GMT -5
With that in mind I don't understand why you would be against it tbh. No matter if you think some people that want it are wrong in their analyses and so on, saving innocent lives from being killed should always be the top priority, right? Making it go away completely is probably impossible, but reducing the chances of it happening will always be better than doing nothing. I never actually said I’m fully against it, I’m just not sure how to feel about it yet. But please continue to put words into my mouth Ok, good to hear. Sure, but you seemed rather pessimistic about it, so can you really be that surprised I happened to make that assumption? It was an easy mistake, and it turned out I was wrong. The other thing(since you wrote the word "continue") I assume you're referring to is something I've already explained.
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Post by jordan71421 on May 22, 2018 12:14:29 GMT -5
I never actually said I’m fully against it, I’m just not sure how to feel about it yet. But please continue to put words into my mouth Ok, good to hear. Sure, but you seemed rather pessimistic about it, so can you really be that surprised I happened to make that assumption? It was an easy mistake, and it turned out I was wrong. The other thing(since you wrote the word "continue") I assume you're referring to is something I've already explained. I am pessimistic about some of it, is that wrong?
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Post by funhouse on May 22, 2018 12:26:20 GMT -5
Ok, good to hear. Sure, but you seemed rather pessimistic about it, so can you really be that surprised I happened to make that assumption? It was an easy mistake, and it turned out I was wrong. The other thing(since you wrote the word "continue") I assume you're referring to is something I've already explained. I am pessimistic about some of it, is that wrong? That's not what I was getting at. I just thought you seemed pessimistic about it to the point where you would be against it, but like I said, my assumption turned out to be wrong.
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Post by jordan71421 on May 22, 2018 14:27:29 GMT -5
I am pessimistic about some of it, is that wrong? That's not what I was getting at. I just thought you seemed pessimistic about it to the point where you would be against it, but like I said, my assumption turned out to be wrong. That seems to happen to me a lot around here for some reason
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Post by funhouse on May 22, 2018 14:52:03 GMT -5
That's not what I was getting at. I just thought you seemed pessimistic about it to the point where you would be against it, but like I said, my assumption turned out to be wrong. That seems to happen to me a lot around here for some reason But to be fair, whenever(can't say always because I haven't read all of your posts) someone says something like "we need gun control", you always seem to take the opposing view. On the other hand I can't recall any time that you've brought up something positive abote the issue of increased gun control. That is all good, but you shouldn't be very surprised then that you get perceived as someone who is against increased gun control. But now that misconception is at least out of the way.
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Post by jordan71421 on May 22, 2018 19:22:45 GMT -5
That seems to happen to me a lot around here for some reason But to be fair, whenever(can't say always because I haven't read all of your posts) someone says something like "we need gun control", you always seem to take the opposing view. On the other hand I can't recall any time that you've brought up something positive abote the issue of increased gun control. That is all good, but you shouldn't be very surprised then that you get perceived as someone who is against increased gun control. But now that misconception is at least out of the way. This does show a very liberal bias on this forum. Understandly, a lot of people on here are from Europe. I’ve got been called a right wing troll because I don’t flat out agree with things like gun control. It gets annoying sometimes
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Post by mancraider on May 22, 2018 19:55:37 GMT -5
But to be fair, whenever(can't say always because I haven't read all of your posts) someone says something like "we need gun control", you always seem to take the opposing view. On the other hand I can't recall any time that you've brought up something positive abote the issue of increased gun control. That is all good, but you shouldn't be very surprised then that you get perceived as someone who is against increased gun control. But now that misconception is at least out of the way. This does show a very liberal bias on this forum. Understandly, a lot of people on here are from Europe. I’ve got been called a right wing troll because I don’t flat out agree with things like gun control. It gets annoying sometimes are you still going? I said you were acting like a troll not because of your views about anything, you're as entitled to your opinion as the next man, but because you were claiming to be not biased yet your comments were clearly one sided (as pointed out above) and whenever anyone mentioned this you tried to claim they were abusing you, saying they were not intelligent enough to debate you. The very definition of professional troll behaviour. The point that's been made about many members on here being European and therfore more inclined to be anti guns is fair comment although I would more accurately use not American rather than just European. Nowhere outside the US loves owning guns the way you guys do. But your the ones that have to live with the results and if your happy with that then fair do's.
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Post by jordan71421 on May 22, 2018 23:24:31 GMT -5
This does show a very liberal bias on this forum. Understandly, a lot of people on here are from Europe. I’ve got been called a right wing troll because I don’t flat out agree with things like gun control. It gets annoying sometimes are you still going? I said you were acting like a troll not because of your views about anything, you're as entitled to your opinion as the next man, but because you were claiming to be not biased yet your comments were clearly one sided (as pointed out above) and whenever anyone mentioned this you tried to claim they were abusing you, saying they were not intelligent enough to debate you. The very definition of professional troll behaviour. The point that's been made about many members on here being European and therfore more inclined to be anti guns is fair comment although I would more accurately use not American rather than just European. Nowhere outside the US loves owning guns the way you guys do. But your the ones that have to live with the results and if your happy with that then fair do's. Half of the things you claimed that I said, I never said. I never said I was not biased. I never said someone wasn’t intelligent enough to debate me. Why should I even bother though, just keep putting words in my mouth. Everyone else will blindly agree with you without thinking twice.
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Post by funhouse on May 22, 2018 23:47:23 GMT -5
But to be fair, whenever(can't say always because I haven't read all of your posts) someone says something like "we need gun control", you always seem to take the opposing view. On the other hand I can't recall any time that you've brought up something positive abote the issue of increased gun control. That is all good, but you shouldn't be very surprised then that you get perceived as someone who is against increased gun control. But now that misconception is at least out of the way. This does show a very liberal bias on this forum. Understandly, a lot of people on here are from Europe. I’ve got been called a right wing troll because I don’t flat out agree with things like gun control. It gets annoying sometimes I would have thought you were against it even if I was right wing. You've been using lots of arguments that anti gun control people do, and no pro gun control arguments at all. You didn't seem to be "on the fence" or anywhere in between, not because of my bias, but simply because of the things you said. If I would have suddenly said "I'm not sure if gun control is the right way to go" after all I've written, wouldn't that surprise you?
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Post by jordan71421 on May 22, 2018 23:57:32 GMT -5
This does show a very liberal bias on this forum. Understandly, a lot of people on here are from Europe. I’ve got been called a right wing troll because I don’t flat out agree with things like gun control. It gets annoying sometimes I would have thought you were against it even if I was right wing. You've been using lots of arguments that anti gun control people do, and no pro gun control arguments at all. You didn't seem to be "on the fence" or anywhere in between, not because of my bias, but simply because of the things you said. If I would have suddenly said "I'm not sure if gun control is the right way to go" after all I've written, wouldn't that surprise you? I was asking different people questions as to why they were so anti-gun. I’m literally seeking answers from people, and sometimes responding with how I feel (as well as respond with something that opposes their response), and continue asking questions. Why do I have to preface that I have complicated feelings about gun control to all of you? You want to know why? Because if I don’t, I’m automatically a pro-gun American with blood on my hands to the various Europeans that have responded to me. That says a lot about how they judge people. That’s their problem, not mine
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Post by Officer Jim Kurring on May 26, 2018 17:52:08 GMT -5
Sensitive subject, but I'm pro-choice, having said that, how did Ireland just only in the last few days legalize abortion? Not to mention divorce was only made legal in Ireland in recent years....
No wonder forum member manicsfan, who was from Ireland, was such an uptight asshole...
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2018 17:55:23 GMT -5
Sensitive subject, but I'm pro-choice, having said that, how did Ireland just only in the last few days legalize abortion? Not to mention divorce was only made legal in Ireland in recent years.... No wonder forum member manicsfan, who was from Ireland, was such an uptight asshole... Thanks. Despite that, Ireland >>>>>> USA.
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Post by Officer Jim Kurring on May 26, 2018 17:59:39 GMT -5
Sensitive subject, but I'm pro-choice, having said that, how did Ireland just only in the last few days legalize abortion? Not to mention divorce was only made legal in Ireland in recent years.... No wonder forum member manicsfan, who was from Ireland, was such an uptight asshole... Thanks. Despite that, Ireland >>>>>> USA. I prefer Ireland over the U.S.A. simply because there's no snakes, or snakes aren't native to Ireland, I don't know....I hate snakes; I once saw a snake in my back yard and didn't go in the back yard for like a year. Snakes are evil motherfuckers..... God bless.
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Post by jordan71421 on May 26, 2018 18:34:46 GMT -5
My opinion has really changed in recent years on abortion. I used to be strictly pro-choice, but as I’ve gotten older, I can totally understand where pro-life people come from. The whole “clump of cells” idea is such a creepy way to look at human life. I’ll probably just be told I’m a white American male who doesn’t understand what women go through, but abortion is a very creepy thing
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