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Post by KhanMightSay on Oct 12, 2017 16:13:07 GMT -5
I know this has been discussed before but I'd like to know what the majority think with a poll.
There's definitely something going on what with AYW coming out on Fri 6th Oct and then HM immediately after on Mon 9th Oct. But what exactly?
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Post by SheSaidHerNameWasDot on Oct 12, 2017 16:15:15 GMT -5
He deliberately set out to steal his thunder. 100%. And failed miserably. 100%
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Post by Bonehead's Barber on Oct 12, 2017 16:20:55 GMT -5
He didn't. If he did, then he failed
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2017 16:25:26 GMT -5
Yes, and he's failed.
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Post by The Escapist on Oct 12, 2017 16:26:47 GMT -5
Anyone who voted "yes" is a fucking mental patient.
Thanks.
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Post by mossy on Oct 12, 2017 16:28:22 GMT -5
Being the master manipulator of the media that he is, puppet master Noel pulled all the strings to ensure Liam's album only got 1 star reviews, which is the only reason why it is tanking in the charts right now...
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Post by freddy838 on Oct 12, 2017 16:28:59 GMT -5
Gotta remember that when Noel started this, he hadn't even released CY. It's been a long process where he intended to release it round about now, once the CY tour finished and a natural break to finish things off. He probably didn't even take into account a resurgence from Liam in such a relative short amount of time. The style of the album suggests that compared to normal circumstances, the whole sales and promotion thing isn't as important to him as he has finally gone for an album that is less commercial, but suddenly Liam releasing has turned it into a bit of a bun fight. Hope that makes sense as I've had a few pints, but not too many.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Oct 12, 2017 16:29:34 GMT -5
Noel has no doubt had a plan to release music around this time for ages, if anything he probably refused to move it. The second yes is the most bonkers for me.
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Post by pedroz on Oct 12, 2017 16:31:34 GMT -5
Nah
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Post by Godlike on Oct 12, 2017 16:31:46 GMT -5
Two is always better than one and oasis are being discussed more than anytime since the 90's in my opinion so it's a pre planned calculated "masterplan" then when all is said and done they patch things up next year after HFB's tour and reunite. Mystery solved your welcome πππ perfect PR stunt if u ask me
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Post by tomlivesforever on Oct 12, 2017 16:41:41 GMT -5
Two is always better than one and oasis are being discussed more than anytime since the 90's in my opinion so it's a pre planned calculated "masterplan" then when all is said and done they patch things up next year after HFB's tour and reunite. Mystery solved your welcome πππ perfect PR stunt if u ask me That's the dream for a lot of people. This belief that the both of them will soon be skipping through Hamstead Heath holding hands announcing that all the feuding was just one big stunt. High levels of crazy.
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Post by SheSaidHerNameWasDot on Oct 12, 2017 16:44:58 GMT -5
Two is always better than one and oasis are being discussed more than anytime since the 90's in my opinion so it's a pre planned calculated "masterplan" then when all is said and done they patch things up next year after HFB's tour and reunite. Mystery solved your welcome πππ perfect PR stunt if u ask me That's the dream for a lot of people. This belief that the both of them will soon be skipping through Hamstead Heath holding hands announcing that all the feuding was just one big stunt. High levels of cocaine.
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Post by mystoryisgory on Oct 12, 2017 16:45:19 GMT -5
Can't people just accept that the Gallaghers have better things to do than to plot their every move to attack each other?
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Post by spaneli on Oct 12, 2017 16:46:58 GMT -5
Noel has no doubt had a plan to release music around this time for ages, if anything he probably refused to move it. The second yes is the most bonkers for me. I agree. However, he did in fact move it. Originally, it was supposed to come out a couple weeks ago, before he went on the U2 tour, as I recall. Then Taylor Swift decided to release her new album, which made him move everything back a couple of weeks. That's when he started doing pre-recorded interviews, probably knowing that the single had been pushed back and he wouldn't be there to promote it. As you said, this has nothing to really do with Liam. With the Taylor Swift release, Noel and his team knew they needed to delay by two weeks. They also knew that they needed to promote the tour and to up the pre-sales for the album. So a single had to be released be between early-October and early-November. The problem being that Noel would be on tour. Their best bet was releasing a little bit after Liam's album dropped. It would clear them of Taylor Swift, and a little bit past Liam (to at least give a little space), would come out about 3 weeks before they probably released another single, and would promote the album and tour. I think Noel and his team made the best out of a bad situation. Anyone arguing otherwise is most likely bonkers.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Oct 12, 2017 16:51:36 GMT -5
Noel has no doubt had a plan to release music around this time for ages, if anything he probably refused to move it. The second yes is the most bonkers for me. I agree. However, he did in fact move it. Originally, it was supposed to come out a couple weeks ago, before he went on the U2 tour, as I recall. Then Taylor Swift decided to release her new album, which made him move everything back a couple of weeks. That's when he started doing pre-recorded interviews, probably knowing that the single had been pushed back and he wouldn't be there to promote it. As you said, this has nothing to really do with Liam. With the Taylor Swift release, Noel and his team knew they needed to delay by two weeks. They also knew that they needed to promote the tour and to up the pre-sales for the album. So a single had to be released be between early-October and early-November. The problem being that Noel would be on tour. Their best bet was releasing a little bit after Liam's album dropped. It would clear them of Taylor Swift, and a little bit past Liam (to at least give a little space), would come out about 3 weeks before they probably released another single, and would promote the album and tour. I think Noel and his team made the best out of a bad situation. Anyone arguing otherwise is most likely bonkers. You're right he did move it, I just meant that it was always heading toward release at the back end of this year. He has had to move it a bit to dodge Swift rather than it have anything to do with Liam.
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Post by y2koasis on Oct 12, 2017 16:53:37 GMT -5
He deliberately set out to steal his thunder. 100%. And failed miserably. 100% He actually helped him I imagine. A lot of people had this stupid idea that Noel was the only talented Gallagher. They got a bunch of great songs by little brother and a dud from the former Chief.
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Post by Godlike on Oct 12, 2017 16:54:42 GMT -5
Two is always better than one and oasis are being discussed more than anytime since the 90's in my opinion so it's a pre planned calculated "masterplan" then when all is said and done they patch things up next year after HFB's tour and reunite. Mystery solved your welcome πππ perfect PR stunt if u ask me That's the dream for a lot of people. This belief that the both of them will soon be skipping through Hamstead Heath holding hands announcing that all the feuding was just one big stunt. High levels of crazy. Hey a dreamer can dream right?
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Post by y2koasis on Oct 12, 2017 16:55:44 GMT -5
Two is always better than one and oasis are being discussed more than anytime since the 90's in my opinion so it's a pre planned calculated "masterplan" then when all is said and done they patch things up next year after HFB's tour and reunite. Mystery solved your welcome πππ perfect PR stunt if u ask me I am actually thinking along those lines as well. Next year will be Rock N Roll Hall of Fame induction. I'd imagine they are first ballot. Reunion perfect timing then.
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Post by The Milkman & The Riverman on Oct 12, 2017 17:03:31 GMT -5
Actually it was Liam who had album ready since May or something and was waiting till October for the release so maybe it was the opposite.
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Post by Godlike on Oct 12, 2017 17:18:57 GMT -5
Two is always better than one and oasis are being discussed more than anytime since the 90's in my opinion so it's a pre planned calculated "masterplan" then when all is said and done they patch things up next year after HFB's tour and reunite. Mystery solved your welcome πππ perfect PR stunt if u ask me I am actually thinking along those lines as well. Next year will be Rock N Roll Hall of Fame induction. I'd imagine they are first ballot. Reunion perfect timing then. I agree but the hall of fame won't be till 2019 because 25 years after first album release
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Post by y2koasis on Oct 12, 2017 17:50:37 GMT -5
I am actually thinking along those lines as well. Next year will be Rock N Roll Hall of Fame induction. I'd imagine they are first ballot. Reunion perfect timing then. I agree but the hall of fame won't be till 2019 because 25 years after first album release Nominees will be announced 2018 though. If they get included in first ballot - if they don't it is a travesty - they'd be formally inducted in 2019. Radiohead was just nominated. God that makes me feel old. Remember buying Pablo Honey.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Oct 12, 2017 17:58:05 GMT -5
Actually it was Liam who had album ready since May or something and was waiting till October for the release so maybe it was the opposite. Seems like Liam and Co had they're strategy worked out well in advance to be honest. I thought there was some suggestion they were still tinkering with album at the beginning of the summer so it doesn't surprise me its come out when it has. Its all been quite deliberate or appeared so. I think the truth is that both have them have been doing there own thing with PR teams working to plans even if they have had to shuffle things now and then.
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Post by fenderlender on Oct 12, 2017 18:17:31 GMT -5
Nah. If anything, Noel delayed his announcement and single to let Liam breathe on his own. We've been hearing about Noel's album for two years, and it needed to be released this November so there comes a point where they couldn't wait any longer and had to announce it.
They're surprisingly separate things. Apart from Liam's tweets, Holy Mountain comment sections and live4ever, I haven't really seen much Noel vs Liam hype about the albums at all.
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Post by Godlike on Oct 12, 2017 18:49:34 GMT -5
I agree but the hall of fame won't be till 2019 because 25 years after first album release Nominees will be announced 2018 though. If they get included in first ballot - if they don't it is a travesty - they'd be formally inducted in 2019. Radiohead was just nominated. God that makes me feel old. Remember buying Pablo Honey. Oh ok thx for the info.. that would be a travesty tho 99% of the band's in there could only dream to have a career like oasis
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Post by eva on Oct 12, 2017 19:09:23 GMT -5
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