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Post by chamu on Nov 30, 2017 10:23:42 GMT -5
Thursday´s Update: 71,100
Holy Mountain still at #29
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Post by Manualex on Nov 30, 2017 10:28:44 GMT -5
So... 75ktops for first week? Not good, but not as bad as it could've been.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 30, 2017 10:48:40 GMT -5
So... 75ktops for first week? Not good, but not as bad as it could've been. Isn’t that one of the bigger UK weeks in 2017? Going in at #1. In a musical climate when people buy less music? Most other artists would kill for such an entry. |
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Post by bt95 on Nov 30, 2017 10:52:34 GMT -5
I said this in another thread I think. As well as Liam has been marketed and promoted himself, he bloody needed it. Noel didn't. Liam caught on to the whole euphoria after Supersonic, which has helped Oasis to become the biggest band in Britain again (how sad is that, considering they've been broke up for nearly 10 years!), among the youngsters at least. Liam has come back with a stellar marketing campaign and a great, commercial album. Mammoth gigs and tours to appease the fans that haven't and never will see Oasis (like me), plus the ones who want that feeling back again. And yes, on your final comment, I love the amount of marketing and promo experts on here and Twitter etc. We must all own our own labels  Sorry but Supersonic was a low budget film that was shown at special screenings around the UK and then straight to DVD. Oasis have been the biggest band in the UK since they split. No one has come close to them. The film rekindled a few casuals but you are massively overreacting to the influence of that film. Liam Gallagher is just more popular than Noel Gallagher. Its the singer of Oasis singing Oasis songs and giving the Oasis experience to Oasis fans. Noel cant do that no matter what he releases, its not the same with his voice. Thats why Liam is more popular now. His name is in lights and hes singing the Oasis songs the right way. You are hugely wrong. It has shown people just how big Oasis were. I'm not sure how old you are, but I'm 22. I've been into Oasis proper since I was 15. But, lots of people my age or younger have only got into them 'properly' in the last few years (and even then, I doubt there's many like me or most on here who I bet can name every song recorded by them). Supersonic showed those youngsters just how massive Oasis were. I know it blew the minds of some people. You can't underestimate that, because my generation hasn't had one era-defining band. Liam has had a perfect storm in a sense and all power to him. He's popular with the youth because Oasis are now relevant again, and because my generation doesn't have anybody remotely like him that they can idolise. |
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Post by wallofass on Nov 30, 2017 11:13:16 GMT -5
Sorry but Supersonic was a low budget film that was shown at special screenings around the UK and then straight to DVD. Oasis have been the biggest band in the UK since they split. No one has come close to them. The film rekindled a few casuals but you are massively overreacting to the influence of that film. Liam Gallagher is just more popular than Noel Gallagher. Its the singer of Oasis singing Oasis songs and giving the Oasis experience to Oasis fans. Noel cant do that no matter what he releases, its not the same with his voice. Thats why Liam is more popular now. His name is in lights and hes singing the Oasis songs the right way. You are hugely wrong. It has shown people just how big Oasis were. I'm not sure how old you are, but I'm 22. I've been into Oasis proper since I was 15. But, lots of people my age or younger have only got into them 'properly' in the last few years (and even then, I doubt there's many like me or most on here who I bet can name every song recorded by them). Supersonic showed those youngsters just how massive Oasis were. I know it blew the minds of some people. You can't underestimate that, because my generation hasn't had one era-defining band. Liam has had a perfect storm in a sense and all power to him. He's popular with the youth because Oasis are now relevant again, and because my generation doesn't have anybody remotely like him that they can idolise. Im 23. Oasis haven't become any more or less popular in the last year. They were always this popular in the UK. |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Nov 30, 2017 11:20:06 GMT -5
So... 75ktops for first week? Not good, but not as bad as it could've been. Most of us predicted that It's nothing spectacular but still good numbers |
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Post by AdidasNG72 on Nov 30, 2017 11:38:14 GMT -5
Sorry but Supersonic was a low budget film that was shown at special screenings around the UK and then straight to DVD. Oasis have been the biggest band in the UK since they split. No one has come close to them. The film rekindled a few casuals but you are massively overreacting to the influence of that film. Liam Gallagher is just more popular than Noel Gallagher. Its the singer of Oasis singing Oasis songs and giving the Oasis experience to Oasis fans. Noel cant do that no matter what he releases, its not the same with his voice. Thats why Liam is more popular now. His name is in lights and hes singing the Oasis songs the right way. You are hugely wrong. It has shown people just how big Oasis were. I'm not sure how old you are, but I'm 22. I've been into Oasis proper since I was 15. But, lots of people my age or younger have only got into them 'properly' in the last few years (and even then, I doubt there's many like me or most on here who I bet can name every song recorded by them). Supersonic showed those youngsters just how massive Oasis were. I know it blew the minds of some people. You can't underestimate that, because my generation hasn't had one era-defining band. Liam has had a perfect storm in a sense and all power to him. He's popular with the youth because Oasis are now relevant again, and because my generation doesn't have anybody remotely like him that they can idolise. Wow! 22 and you are in to Oasis. I find that genuinely amazing, as you were never lucky enough to experience first hand the band at their height in the mid 90's, yet you still love them as much as me and others on here who were old enough back then. It definitely shows Oasis have longevity. And I also find it truly amazing that Liam has managed to tap into a whole new generation too. You are right. He is one of a kind, the last of a dying breed, and its a shame you youngsters don't have anyone else to idolise. They don't make them like that anymore. |
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Post by jez123 on Nov 30, 2017 11:55:13 GMT -5
Noel Gallagher hasn’t done too bad at all. It’s another #1 Studio album to his belt.
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Post by jason77 on Nov 30, 2017 12:01:46 GMT -5
Good to hear oasis has attracted a fanbase of people in there early 20s I thought most of the people buying there solo albums would be in my age group 40-45
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Post by chamu on Nov 30, 2017 12:28:16 GMT -5
So... 75ktops for first week? Not good, but not as bad as it could've been. Isn’t that one of the bigger UK weeks in 2017? Going in at #1. In a musical climate when people buy less music? Most other artists would kill for such an entry. First week sales of number One albums in 2017: Ed Sheeran - 671,542 Rag´n´Bone Man - 117,101 Liam Gallagher - 102,660 Sam Smith - 97,328 Taylor Swift - 83,648 Then it´d be Noel. Great numbers Take That sold 113,200 during their first week, but they were number two because of Ed Sheeran |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Nov 30, 2017 12:36:28 GMT -5
Good to hear oasis has attracted a fanbase of people in there early 20s I thought most of the people buying there solo albums would be in my age group 40-45 I'm 17 and there's at least 2-3 other people who are my age on here |
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Post by jeffrey on Nov 30, 2017 12:55:53 GMT -5
Good to hear oasis has attracted a fanbase of people in there early 20s I thought most of the people buying there solo albums would be in my age group 40-45 I went to Denver to see Liam and queued from 9:00am. The next 10-15 people or so who showed up were all 23 y/o and under (I’m 35). It was genuinely shocking to see (especially in the US), but super cool to hear the stories of how they got into them and watch some of their reactions seeing him for their first time. This was not the case when I saw Noel in Dallas in 2015, but maybe that’ll change when I see him this tour. |
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Post by freddy838 on Nov 30, 2017 12:57:06 GMT -5
I work with someone who has just turned 20 and hums a lot of Oasis songs to himself and loved Liam at the MCR concert. It shouldn't be forgotten that a lot of their Mums and Dads would have been massive Oasis fans and they are one of the greatest bands of all time so the music will have filtered through. Added to that Liam's social media genius, you've got a new movement going again. Perhaps Noel hasn't quite got across the fact that he as behind the songs as much, or he's just a bit unlucky that he is up against Liam when he's in fact got decent sales figures by most other measures but he is going to be compared to Liam's.
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Post by jason77 on Nov 30, 2017 12:59:56 GMT -5
Well goes to show they are still relevant today for all the hype and hysteria I have never seen it around another band oasis have been the biggest band of my lifetime in the uk.
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Post by deasy on Nov 30, 2017 13:58:35 GMT -5
Christ, imagine listening to Ed Sheeran on vinyl... That must be such an underwhelming experience. It doesn't bare thinking about. Not trying to sound like a pompous asshole, but I have never heard an Ed Sheeran song. For that matter, I’ve never heard one by Drake, Kanye, or the majority of the top 40. Hate technology and think it’s ruined a lot, but it sure has made the consumption of music easier for people that despise what’s on the radio. So I take it you've no opinions on their music since you've never heard it? Who knows, you might think they're great? |
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Post by The Escapist on Nov 30, 2017 14:13:16 GMT -5
Not trying to sound like a pompous asshole, but I have never heard an Ed Sheeran song. For that matter, I’ve never heard one by Drake, Kanye, or the majority of the top 40. Hate technology and think it’s ruined a lot, but it sure has made the consumption of music easier for people that despise what’s on the radio. So I take it you've no opinions on their music since you've never heard it? Who knows, you might think they're great? But some of it that dreadful hippity hop! Surely that can't be good! |
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Post by jeffrey on Nov 30, 2017 14:26:22 GMT -5
Not trying to sound like a pompous asshole, but I have never heard an Ed Sheeran song. For that matter, I’ve never heard one by Drake, Kanye, or the majority of the top 40. Hate technology and think it’s ruined a lot, but it sure has made the consumption of music easier for people that despise what’s on the radio. So I take it you've no opinions on their music since you've never heard it? Who knows, you might think they're great? Not sure whether you’re attempting to elicit an argumentative response or not, but here’s my answer to your question: In general, I’m not a fan of hip hop or the cookie-cutter pop that’s played on terrestrial radio; therefore, my assumption is that it would not be for me. By definition however, I am unable to give an objective opinion. |
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Post by wallofass on Nov 30, 2017 14:33:58 GMT -5
So... 75ktops for first week? Not good, but not as bad as it could've been. Isn’t that one of the bigger UK weeks in 2017? Going in at #1. In a musical climate when people buy less music? Most other artists would kill for such an entry. You are completely right, but could that not have been said about Beady Eye when they were getting such a hard time for their sales? I doubt the likes of Johnny Marr, Courteeners, Blossoms, The Enemy, The Kooks etc would have minded Different Gear sales. |
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Post by wallofass on Nov 30, 2017 14:38:36 GMT -5
You are hugely wrong. It has shown people just how big Oasis were. I'm not sure how old you are, but I'm 22. I've been into Oasis proper since I was 15. But, lots of people my age or younger have only got into them 'properly' in the last few years (and even then, I doubt there's many like me or most on here who I bet can name every song recorded by them). Supersonic showed those youngsters just how massive Oasis were. I know it blew the minds of some people. You can't underestimate that, because my generation hasn't had one era-defining band. Liam has had a perfect storm in a sense and all power to him. He's popular with the youth because Oasis are now relevant again, and because my generation doesn't have anybody remotely like him that they can idolise. Wow! 22 and you are in to Oasis. I find that genuinely amazing, as you were never lucky enough to experience first hand the band at their height in the mid 90's, yet you still love them as much as me and others on here who were old enough back then. It definitely shows Oasis have longevity. And I also find it truly amazing that Liam has managed to tap into a whole new generation too. You are right. He is one of a kind, the last of a dying breed, and its a shame you youngsters don't have anyone else to idolise. They don't make them like that anymore. Hey im 23 and managed to see Oasis twice on Dig Out Your Soul tour! You can go to gigs at a young age you know. Still very much stand by what i said, i get what people are saying that more people got into them because of the film but their status was always huge and they have been the biggest band in the country ever since their split. |
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Post by spaneli on Nov 30, 2017 14:39:09 GMT -5
Isn’t that one of the bigger UK weeks in 2017? Going in at #1. In a musical climate when people buy less music? Most other artists would kill for such an entry. You are completely right, but could that not have been said about Beady Eye when they were getting such a hard time for their sales? I doubt the likes of Johnny Marr, Courteeners, Blossoms, The Enemy, The Kooks etc would have minded Different Gear sales. The problem with Beady Eye was always the expectations they set for themselves. When Liam is going out saying that they're going to be bigger than Oasis, and they put up Oasis numbers, then it's going to be viewed through a prism of "failure." Especially, considering that DGSS was a big step down in terms of Oasso sales. Noel hasn't really talked up expectation, actually he's talked them down. Additionally, WBTM's first week sales totals will fall close enough with CY's that Noel is just performing how he typically performs anyways. That is, it can't be disappointing if you're just performing how you usually perform anyways. Numbers are great, context is even better  |
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Post by wallofass on Nov 30, 2017 14:42:11 GMT -5
You are completely right, but could that not have been said about Beady Eye when they were getting such a hard time for their sales? I doubt the likes of Johnny Marr, Courteeners, Blossoms, The Enemy, The Kooks etc would have minded Different Gear sales. The problem with Beady Eye was always the expectations they set for themselves. When Liam is going out say that they're going to be bigger then Oasis, and they put up Oasis numbers, then it's going to be viewed through a prism of "failure." Especially, considering that DGSS was a big step down in terms of Oasso sales. Noel hasn't really talked up expectation, actually he's talked them down. Additionally, WBTM's first week sales totals will fall close enough with CY's that Noel is just performing how he typically performs anyways. That is, it can't be disappointing if you're just performing how you usually perform anyways. Numbers are great, context is even better Do you genuinely believe them comments are why Beady Eye's sales were viewed differently? I think we all taken Liams comments with a pinch of salt. He knew himself nothing could be as big as Oasis. Noel is talking down sales because he fully well knows they are going to be worse than his last 2 albums, and more importantly Liams album. He is so much more bothered about all of this than he makes out. |
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Post by spaneli on Nov 30, 2017 14:46:30 GMT -5
The problem with Beady Eye was always the expectations they set for themselves. When Liam is going out say that they're going to be bigger then Oasis, and they put up Oasis numbers, then it's going to be viewed through a prism of "failure." Especially, considering that DGSS was a big step down in terms of Oasso sales. Noel hasn't really talked up expectation, actually he's talked them down. Additionally, WBTM's first week sales totals will fall close enough with CY's that Noel is just performing how he typically performs anyways. That is, it can't be disappointing if you're just performing how you usually perform anyways. Numbers are great, context is even better Do you genuinely believe them comments are why Beady Eye's sales were viewed differently? I think we all taken Liams comments with a pinch of salt. He knew himself nothing could be as big as Oasis. Noel is talking down sales because he fully well knows they are going to be worse than his last 2 albums, and more importantly Liams album. He is so much more bothered about all of this than he makes out. We all know that Liam's comments are never taken with a pinch of salt. Plus, he didn't just say it once, he was using it in just about every interview (it felt like). The second Liam created those expectations, the general public and many on here were going to view the numbers as disappointing. Once the Jeanie is taken out of the bottle, it can't be put back. Controlling expectations is part of promotion. Also, Noel talked down expectations of HFBs1, too. This isn't the first time he's done it. Noel learned from Beady Eye's mistake and never forgot it. Also, Liam was very conservative about expectations this time around too. |
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Post by ariananana on Nov 30, 2017 16:20:03 GMT -5
Good to hear oasis has attracted a fanbase of people in there early 20s I thought most of the people buying there solo albums would be in my age group 40-45 I'm 17 and there's at least 2-3 other people who are my age on here Much of the reasons why Liam has sold out his tour faster and has captured a younger crowd is that seeing Liam is the closest thing to seeing an actual Oasis gig at the moment. So for younger fans, this is an opportunity to feel that energy. |
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Post by bt95 on Nov 30, 2017 18:15:14 GMT -5
You are hugely wrong. It has shown people just how big Oasis were. I'm not sure how old you are, but I'm 22. I've been into Oasis proper since I was 15. But, lots of people my age or younger have only got into them 'properly' in the last few years (and even then, I doubt there's many like me or most on here who I bet can name every song recorded by them). Supersonic showed those youngsters just how massive Oasis were. I know it blew the minds of some people. You can't underestimate that, because my generation hasn't had one era-defining band. Liam has had a perfect storm in a sense and all power to him. He's popular with the youth because Oasis are now relevant again, and because my generation doesn't have anybody remotely like him that they can idolise. Im 23. Oasis haven't become any more or less popular in the last year. They were always this popular in the UK. Oasis have always been popular, but not to the extent they have now in the last 10 years. Both Noel and Liam have said this. I'm not saying Supersonic - which wasn't particularly low budget, btw - caused that. It was always going to recycle itself. But it has all helped and come together at the right time - that's a fact. And Oasis are now more popular than they have been for 10 years. |
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Post by bt95 on Nov 30, 2017 18:18:58 GMT -5
You are hugely wrong. It has shown people just how big Oasis were. I'm not sure how old you are, but I'm 22. I've been into Oasis proper since I was 15. But, lots of people my age or younger have only got into them 'properly' in the last few years (and even then, I doubt there's many like me or most on here who I bet can name every song recorded by them). Supersonic showed those youngsters just how massive Oasis were. I know it blew the minds of some people. You can't underestimate that, because my generation hasn't had one era-defining band. Liam has had a perfect storm in a sense and all power to him. He's popular with the youth because Oasis are now relevant again, and because my generation doesn't have anybody remotely like him that they can idolise. Wow! 22 and you are in to Oasis. I find that genuinely amazing, as you were never lucky enough to experience first hand the band at their height in the mid 90's, yet you still love them as much as me and others on here who were old enough back then. It definitely shows Oasis have longevity. And I also find it truly amazing that Liam has managed to tap into a whole new generation too. You are right. He is one of a kind, the last of a dying breed, and its a shame you youngsters don't have anyone else to idolise. They don't make them like that anymore. Plenty of us are mate. Not all to the extent I am, and others on here I'd imagine, but 'the youth' in the UK see Oasis as the biggest rock band I reckon - and that's sad, considering they've been defunct for nearly a decade! A lot is from bands like Catfish, Courteeners and Blossoms etc citing Oasis as their prime influences. All of those bands are nothing more than cheap imitations (though they all have their merits and musically are different), but it has helped. I doubt a lot of 17-year-olds know all of the b-sides, but I tend to dive head first into things when I get into them. |
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